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RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 7:08:58 AM   
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Just checking, do you have a copy of WitpLoad.exe in the Scen folder?

yep

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RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 7:11:36 AM   
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Here's my folder too.




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RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 10:38:45 AM   
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And you really read and followed the installation section of the documentation (the pdf file in the directory you showed)? Because you are missing the .csv files generated from the scenario. So CptSherwood could be right: lack of witpload.exe.

Also the exception you show is not the first one you get. It only appears if initialization went wrong (with another exception), you quit witpDecoder, and then restart it without deleting the witp.* files in the directory. Please delete them and submit the first exception you get (no need to screengrab BTW, everything you see as pop-ups will be logged into witpdecoder.log also).


A completely unrelated side note: I would switch on file suffixes in the Windows Explorer. Helps to detect some attempts to inject viruses or trojans.



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RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 10:56:33 AM   
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...
  • Cluster files from Martti and FeurerKrieg included.
    It seems you have left them out when you updated the the file. Or I am blind, but as I use my own copies it doesn't matter (to me) anyway
    ...
    A few notes on how to upgrade:
    This also crushed USSAmericas bug (got hit by it as well)
    ...
    The zip file contains updated SWT and hsqldb libraries, so please agree to overwriting all *.dll and *.jar files in the witpDecoder directory. You do not have to agree to overwrite witpdecoder.bat (as that would overwrite your password).
    If the .bat file is not overwritten one would have to change the referenced .jar file (from witpdecoder3c.jar to witpdecoder2.jar), no?!

    @WhoCares:
    >However, it seems the subs are not included in this feature.
    >Was this an intentional omission?!
    Yes, but it can be changed at database initialization time. Read the updated documentation or simply change the ships4history.csv file.
    For who is interested some other interesting ship classes: SS - 13, ML - 14, DM - 17, SC - 28, TK - 30, AVD - 40, AGC - 44, AGP 46, MLE - 47)
    ...


  • Very nice update!

    Edit: The full list of the ship classes and their reference number can be found in the WITPtabs.csv, so I changed my list above to some of the more useful ones (and no, I have no special affection to mine warfare )...

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 11:55:16 AM   
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    I have created a small application for converting savegame filenames from Boddhi's utility to witpXXX.pws format, so that Woos' utility can batch load them. Place the app into the same folder as Boddhi's savegame archive and run. Files will be renamed, so take copies before running. This is a quick hack-together job, recommend backups.

    http://koti.mbnet.fi/~zombie/witpconv.zip

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 12:44:46 PM   
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    > It seems you have left them out when you updated the the file.
    Indeed. It seems the Unix zip command I used to quickly generate the fixed version does not pack subdirectories by default. Will be fixed soon.

    > If the .bat file is not overwritten one would have to change the referenced
    >.jar file (from witpdecoder3c.jar to witpdecoder2.jar), no?!

    Well actually you were never supposed to change the reference in the .bat file from witpdecoder2.jar to anything else in the first place. You were supposed to change the name of the file to witpdecoder2.jar ;-)

    > The full list of the ship classes and their reference number can be found in the WITPtabs.csv,
    But be warned that I have not tested the history function with huge amounts of ships (and also only with a few dozens turns). Startup of witpDecoder or display of the history tab might become slower due to too many ships. But feel free to experiment and tell me your results.

    Also this is the _history_ function. If you just want to see where your ships currently are, you can simply double click on a class in the Ship Classes tab and you will be shown the current location of all the ships of that class on the map.

    > converting savegame filenames from Boddhi's utility to witpXXX.pws format
    I must admit I never used Boddhi's backup function so I have no idea on how the files are named there, but the only requirement of witpdecoder for batch loading is that filenames consist of some text followed by an increasing number (with leading zeros if necessary) and optionally followed by some more text. It is not necessary that the files are named witpXXX.pws. At least that is how the code is supposed to work. I admittedly only tested it with witpXXX.pws files.

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 4/30/2007 2:51:44 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: Woos

    And you really read and followed the installation section of the documentation (the pdf file in the directory you showed)? Because you are missing the .csv files generated from the scenario. So CptSherwood could be right: lack of witpload.exe.

    Also the exception you show is not the first one you get. It only appears if initialization went wrong (with another exception), you quit witpDecoder, and then restart it without deleting the witp.* files in the directory. Please delete them and submit the first exception you get (no need to screengrab BTW, everything you see as pop-ups will be logged into witpdecoder.log also).


    A completely unrelated side note: I would switch on file suffixes in the Windows Explorer. Helps to detect some attempts to inject viruses or trojans.



    I missed some of the witp* files. now works. Thanks.

    Too damn sleeppy I think...


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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/2/2007 2:09:15 AM   
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    Strange thing happened after installing this version. I had previously loaded save game turn under 3c but after installing ver 4 I get 2 errors about ships with no leader or foreign one which didn't come up under 3c even though it's the same turn. The ships in question were 2 of the Brit LCP ships & they were sunk the previous turn in port. No biggie so far but strange??? One thing I've seemed to notice & maybe you can fix it but I've found several leader problems that don't show up on the inconsistencies screen & it always seems to be ships disbanded in port. If I form it into a task force then save game then reload turn into decoder it'll pick it up. Can you fix it where leaders of ships disbanded in port also show up?

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/2/2007 10:33:00 AM   
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    Great job, Woos. Version 4 opens my game with Mantill that had so many problems before. Looks like 4 leaders that have messed up info, and a ton of leader bugs, but it is now working!!

    Thanks again for your work.

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/2/2007 8:27:01 PM   
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    quote:

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    Strange thing happened after installing this version. I had previously loaded save game turn under 3c but after installing ver 4 I get 2 errors about ships with no leader or foreign one which didn't come up under 3c even though it's the same turn. The ships in question were 2 of the Brit LCP ships & they were sunk the previous turn in port. No biggie so far but strange???


    Strange indeed. Handling of sunken ships was changed for 0.4. Previously they always disappeared from the DB and were thus no longer selectable in the Ship history. This has now changed 'sometimes' (complete fix will follow later). But the leader of a sunken ship is explicitly set to NULL so the error you see should not happen.

    quote:

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    One thing I've seemed to notice & maybe you can fix it but I've found several leader problems that don't show up on the inconsistencies screen & it always seems to be ships disbanded in port. If I form it into a task force then save game then reload turn into decoder it'll pick it up. Can you fix it where leaders of ships disbanded in port also show up?

    Also here the code looks fine. There is even an own branch handling this. Can you send me the save game + the respective csv files?

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/3/2007 1:40:05 AM   
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    One thing I noticed when I converted to v0.4 - it reported more inconsistancies, especially the foreign Leader bug than v0.3b.
    No complaint, just more work to remove the 'spies' and 'fifth columnists'

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/3/2007 1:58:16 AM   
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    On the ships, it might be because this is a kind of respawn issue as in a few days or weeks, I should be able to create new ones at a port when it shows I can create barges/pt boats. So it may show them until they actually respawn.

    As to the other problem, I've already fixed those that I've seen & gone on to anther turn so too late to send you anything but will watch it as every few months of game time I go through all ships looking for leader problems. I just wish the leader bug would go away .

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/3/2007 11:31:58 AM   
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    Just out of couriosity, what is the expected size of the database?
    When I went through re-reading all turns (~40) in my current game against the japanese AI (Scen. 13, May 1942-46) I noticed at some occasions that the size doubled up. For the allies the size is now ~260MB, for the japanese ~130MB. E.g. for the allies I remember it going from one turn to next from 30MB to 60, later 130 and finally 260MB.
    Still plenty of room on the partition, but I wonder whether this is really normal.

    Sidenote: Related to my comments above, I only added subs, DMs (not DMSs) and MLs to the history tracking.

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/3/2007 8:51:34 PM   
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    For the allies the size is now ~260MB, for the japanese ~130MB.


    The trick is to use the "Quit" menu from time to time (as opposed to quiting using the X (close) widget in the upper right corner). HsqlDB has an interesting way to reuse freed space in the DB (namely: not) so the DB has to be compacted from time to time. If I did this on the close widget, in the worst case you might be getting the "program does not response, shall I kill it" window. If you then said yes in the middle of database compaction ....... . Thus you have to use the "Quit" menu.
    Didn't I wrote something on that in the manual?

    But no worry, I think hsql has a fixed limit (300MB?) after which it will start compacting its database whether you ask it or not. BTW, my DB is 4MB.

    quote:

    jcjordan wrote:
    On the ships, it might be because this is a kind of respawn issue as in a few days or weeks, I should be able to create new ones at a port when it shows I can create barges/pt boats. So it may show them until they actually respawn.

    Uh, no, another way of ships to be sunken. Can you send me savegame+CSV (and the names of the ships) so i can find out how that is encoded.

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    'fifth columnists'

    Hmm, must be the people writing in the very right column in newspapers, right?

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/7/2007 5:52:24 PM   
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    I have a little suggestion for another page that might be added in the future: Repair Yards

    Basically a list of bases with repair yards, the size, the ships currently in the port and their damage.
    Maybe also the ships underway with the port being their home port.

    This could help when looking for the best ports to upgrade your ships, how busy they are and so on...

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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/7/2007 8:39:31 PM   
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    DISREGARD FOLLOWING POST UNLESS YOU WANT A CHUCKLE AT SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T REALISE HE DIDN'T HAVE JAVA INSTALLED ON HIS PC......


    Just trying to download what looks like an excellent piece of work (well done, Woos)

    But, having problems

    1) Can I simply download v 0.4 or do I need to dl an earlier version and then update?

    2) I have tried to dl just v0.4, have followed the instructions and yet when I hit the witpdecoder.bat file all that happens is I get a split second glimpse of a white text on black background dialog box (too swift to get a screen cap to post here) - I think it's the MSDOS command screen - and then nothing more.

    I have unzipped the archive into a subdirectory of my save folder, calling the subdirectory vs terp as I'm playing Terp (:C/Matrix/WITP/Save/vs terp screencap below) and unzipped the witploader into the SCEN folder. One thing I have noticed though is that within the archive (that I have saved into the subdirectory of the save folder) there are three further archives - "witpDecoder2", "swt" and "hsqdlb" - do I have to unzip those as well?

    Sorry if these are blindingly obvious questions or if they've been answered previously, the SEARCH function hasn't given me any steer on the forum. Thanks for any assistance that can be provided.




    (EDIT - Doing some more reading of earlier threads, I seem to be getting a little further, following this advice to similarly flummoxed Roger Nielson!

    Roger
    3 ways to use the RUN box

    1. (Just type in the run box, Like I think you did)
    use " " for the path (when using first VSWG's instructions)
    (assuming you copied witpload.exe into the \scen dir)
    "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific\SCEN\witpload" /e /s015
    note: the " " covers the path and the command and does not include the /e /s015
    this will run super fast (you might not see it)
    or

    2. Try using the command prompt.
    in the "RUN" box type cmd
    this will bring up a fake dos box... (the command line)
    then C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific\SCEN\witpload /e /s015 (no " " needed)
    this will show the extracts as VSWG just displayed..
    (again assuming you copied witpload.exe into the \scen dir)

    3.
    In my above example I dont need to copy anything.. (but its a 2 part proceedure)
    I cd to where ever the witpload files are.
    then run the command adding an /i to the end

    first
    cd C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific\witpload
    (or where ever you put unzipped the witpload files)

    then
    witpload /e /s015 /i
    )

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    It appears to be doing something....we shall see!



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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/7/2007 10:18:09 PM   
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    Well, finally got it working and I must say a BIG THANKS to Woos for doing such fine work. I'm incredibly excited! I'm also shocked at the amount of fuel and supplies I have spoiling all over the Co Prosperity Sphere!



    EDIT - I wondered if anyone had compiled a cluster for the DEI? I can't seem to see one in the clusters done by others. If not I'll have a crack at doing it myself. Does the ID of the base matter or can one just make up sequential numbers?
    cheers




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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/7/2007 11:31:05 PM   
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    Oh the joys of DOS!!!!!!
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    RE: witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/8/2007 12:18:59 AM   
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    quote:

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    Oh the joys of DOS!!!!!!
    Roger


    It was your Q&A - as posted above - that got me over the hump, Roger; many thanks for asking the questions.



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    RE: New problem with witpdecoder 0.4 - 5/11/2007 1:26:53 AM   
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    Just installed v0.4 of the tool and initialized a new database for a new PBEM game using scenario 157 (CHS v2.08).  DB initialization throws the "Ship class 621 claims more than 127 torpedos available" error message, and I assume that's a small bug in the CHS data for that ship class.  However, when I try to load the save file (for Dec 7th Historical turn, with nothing done by either player save entry of passwords), I get the following error:

    'Couldn't write things to the DB due tojava.sql.SQLException: Wrong data type: java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "Em"  '

    Have no idea what data it's trying to write in incorrect format.  Is it conceivable it's an exception resulting from inclusion of a quotation mark in my opponent's password?  I know my password doesn't contain any such mark.

    Any suggestions you can offer would be much appreciated, as I am looking forward to using the new version.

    -Edit-

    Since posting the above, we restarted our PBEM game due to problems getting animations with historical start. Our restart was non-historical, but with minimal changes to initial orders/dispositions. This time the save file populated the database with no problem! Can't see why switch from historical to non-historical would make any difference, but anyway I'm happy problem has gone away.

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    On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 7:05:57 PM   
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    So, after some time it's time for .... an update to witpdecoder. Since in addition to having maintain my own spreadsheets I also didn't like to have to click on everything just to find out some basic information, this updates adds the Map Overview (and some other minor points, see below).

    You can update by downloading the updated .jar file, rename it to witpDecoder2.jar and overwrite your current witpDecoder2.jar file with it (you DO need to install witpDecoder0.4.zip first). As always, if your download is not a .jar file but a .zip file, your browser is broken (AKA Internet Explorer) and you should use the right mouse button to download.

    Database will again update automatically. Alas that will probably not be the case with the next version. Note that you will need to read in at least one savegame file (can be the last one you read in) before the new features will work.

    New Features:

    • AirGroups are in, so now also Airgroup leaders can be selected using the Leaders Tab (see below)
    • The Storage Tab now assumes that researching ACs does not use any HI or engines.
    • The Storage Tab now shows factory expansions in the "Produced in" sub tab as "(+XXX)".
    • Map Overview: Ship Repair shows the utilization of your ports from ship repairs (see picture one below)
    • Map Overview : Naval Search shows the coverage of the current placement of naval search planes (see picture two below).
    • Map Overview : Support Levels shows how well the troops are support by Support Troops (see picture three below).






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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 7:06:23 PM   
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    The Ship Repair overview shows 3 columns per harbor with at least portsize 3:

    Left column: Size of Harbor (Size 7 fills one hex) plus indications of stationed HQs (light green), ARs (brown), ADs (orange), AS (light blue). Only locally available HQs are shown (ignoring command distance) but they are assumed to stack. The AS blue is a bit difficult to see. An example with everything can be seen in Kwajalein (sp?).

    Middle column (not always there): Amount of ship repair points the harbor can store maximally (200 points fill one hex) vs. the points currently available (the green part of the column). Everything is cut off at 450 points to avoid clobbering the map. So as one can see, Tokyo can have quite a lot of repair points stored but is currently below half its maximum. And it is even worse for Nagasaki.

    Right column (not always there): The number of damaged ships (Sys Damage >1) disbanded in the harbor. 10 ships fill one hex, cut off at 30. So seemingly a lot of ships need to be shifted from Kuching to elsewhere.

    The red points on the map shows the location of seriously damaged ships (sys damaged >20 or flooding/fire>10) in TFs. The size of the dots is relative to the number of damaged ships.




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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 7:06:33 PM   
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    The Naval Search view in the Map overview tab hints at the coverage achieved by naval search planes. Search areas are painted orange with different amounts of transparency. It takes into accounts the number of planes actually flying (i.e. size of group*search %) for determining the transparency and the range for determining the area to paint (according to some research by Apollo (?) range does not influence search efficiency). Both LBA and ship based planes are included.

    On windows this view shows serious flickering, apparently Windows has some problems with painting partially transparent circles. If you want to see this view really snappy, you have to run witpDecoder on Linux.






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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 7:06:48 PM   
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    The support view shows whether your troops are receiving enough support in each hex (independent of base or no base). If the column shown is green, enough support troops are in the hex. If too few support is available, the column is red. The length of the column indicates the amount of the problem but using a quadratic scale (so that also small amount of lacking support will be visible). 15 support too much/too few will fill 1/4 hex, 60 support will fill 1/2 hex, 230 support too much/too few will fill about 1 hex, 500 support will fill 1.5 hexes and more is cut off.




    Note that the picture quality is not as bad as it looks from the jpeg files, but there is some problem with a) the fact that the map is basically a blown up version of the small map used by WitP and b) that the green color used is not that well visible everywhere (but there seems to be no unused green tone available).

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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 7:53:41 PM   
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    For me, the tabs showed up, but only the shipyard one showed anything. The search and support just flashed and nothing but the basic map was displayed. I am running it in Windows XP.

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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 8:11:09 PM   
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    You need to read in at least one turn, before it works (the database update updates the schema but can't magically include the content). Windows XP should not be the problem, I'm using that also.

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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 8:32:12 PM   
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    OK, I'll wait for another turn.

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    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 8:42:21 PM   
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    Great work Markus! looks very nice :) Thanks!


    Does it suppose to work with ongoing games. I'm getting this error with new version:

    Couldn't write things to the DB due tojava.sql.SQLException: Integrity constraint violation - no parent AGsShipMustExist table: Ships
    java.sql.SQLException: Integrity constraint violation - no parent AGsShipMustExist table: Ships
    at org.hsqldb.jdbc.Util.sqlException(Unknown Source)
    at org.hsqldb.jdbc.jdbcStatement.fetchResult(Unknown Source)
    at org.hsqldb.jdbc.jdbcStatement.executeUpdate(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.bt.a(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.Q.e(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.Q.c(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.H.d(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.ap.a(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.bz.run(Unknown Source)
    at org.eclipse.swt.custom.BusyIndicator.showWhile(BusyIndicator.java:67)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.y.a(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.b.widgetSelected(Unknown Source)
    at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.TypedListener.handleEvent(TypedListener.java:90)
    at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(EventTable.java:66)
    at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:928)
    at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents(Display.java:3348)
    at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2968)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.M.a(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.Main.a(Unknown Source)
    at de.retsiemuab.witpDecoder.Main.main(Unknown Source)

    is there any new integrity checks which were missing in previous version?

    _____________________________

    Pavel Zagzin
    WITE/WITW/WITE-2 Development

    (in reply to Cpt Sherwood)
    Post #: 448
    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 9:12:35 PM   
    Woos

     

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    > OK, I'll wait for another turn.
    You can just re-read the last turn. Currently witpDecoder is idempotent (isn't too much mathematics at university a great thing ;-)


    > Integrity constraint violation - no parent AGsShipMustExist table: Ships
    This very much looks as if you have an airgroup which claims to be located on a ship but the ship no longer exists. Since airgroups are in for the first time this is indeed a new integrity constraint. Is there no indication in the log file which group is the culprit so you can check in game? You could also send me a savegame.

    BTW, just to be sure: You also do get the Error pop-up window, don't you? I changed the internal workings of those windows, so I just want to be on the safe side.

    < Message edited by Woos -- 6/16/2007 9:18:12 PM >

    (in reply to Cpt Sherwood)
    Post #: 449
    RE: On towards 0.5 - 6/16/2007 9:21:31 PM   
    Cpt Sherwood

     

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    Much better, thank you Woos. I like the search coverage picture, but the support picture has way too much red.

    The ship repair is very hard to read. Is there anyway in the future you could allow some kind of zoom in function?

    Anyway, thank you very much for the decoder, it is extremely useful. In fact I will not play a game senario that is not supported by it. It is not worth it.

    < Message edited by Cpt Sherwood -- 6/16/2007 9:22:15 PM >

    (in reply to Woos)
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