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New Mod Work Underway - 6/26/2007 8:49:25 PM   
PadresFan104


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Status: offline 		This may get me in trouble, but here we go... One of the great features of OOTP is the FaceGen feature. You can see what kind of work has been done with it by browsing some of the files at my OOTP Mod Website here:

www.padresfanmods.net

As I loaded up one of my fictional PureSim leagues last night and looked at my generic player faces, I realized that it would be a simple task to build up a bunch of random facegen players in OOTP, convert them to .jpg, resize them, and then manually assign them to players. This allows me (a paying customer of both games) to enjoy the facegen faces with my PureSim gameplay. So now I'm sitting here wondering if a) anyone else would be interested in these graphics, and b) is someone in OOTP-land going to get pissed off if I make these graphic files available for download.

In the past, OOTP and PureSim users have freely shared ballpark images, real player images, logo sets, etc. The difference is that these images were all public domain to begin with, and not a generated image from either game.

I'd be interested to know what people think about this issue. In the meantime, I'll post some screenshots so you have a better idea of how these images look in PureSim. Oh, and yes, if you want the players uniforms to match their actual team in PureSim, you have to manually assign each picture from the players "player-card".

Here is a shot of the PSPNcast with the facegen graphics...




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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/26/2007 8:52:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a shot from the Almanac. From this image and the last one, you can see that facegen allows you three levels of zoom for the pictures. You get a better face shot from the close one, but can see more of the uniform in the latter 2, which is nice. If I make a library of images for people to use, I'll probably go with a random approach to create a mix.

I would also like to add that credit for the artwork used in these facegen images goes to OOTP community member Jonah Falcon.






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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/26/2007 10:20:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not sure about the legalities of this issue. I would say since it generates images from OOTP you would only be allowed to use this feature for your own use and not be allowed to distribute them. If this not the case, I would definitely be interested in the facegen graphics.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 12:26:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Considering the amount of cross-pollination, so to speak, that goes on between the two communities, I don't think it's a problem.

Remember that PS is set up to import historic OOTP schedules, so using faces etc. seems to be a logical extension of this.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 2:32:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PadresFan104

One of the great features of OOTP is the FaceGen feature.
I'd be interested to know what people think about this issue.



I detest FaceGen created photos. I much prefer real or (with fantasy leagues) no photos.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 2:42:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Beach23BoyP


quote:

ORIGINAL: PadresFan104

One of the great features of OOTP is the FaceGen feature.
I'd be interested to know what people think about this issue.



I detest FaceGen created photos. I much prefer real or (with fantasy leagues) no photos.



Now, now. I don't have an issue with it, since I play only with real players. The main point is to give a multiplicity of options to choose from.

Hell's bells, Beach Boy, you don't even like the animated ball flights. There's room for all of the user-added bells & whistles, so lighten up.


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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 4:42:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		The facegen in OOTP really got me "in to" a fictional league, where as before I was 110% a historical guy. To have faces like that for Puresim would be cool.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 10:06:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think those are some really nice looking generated photos and would be willing to use them myself but I don't know if the OOTP community would get thier panties in a bunch over it or not.  But like KG says we already use the OOTP schedules so...

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 5:40:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin


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ORIGINAL: Beach23BoyP


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ORIGINAL: PadresFan104

One of the great features of OOTP is the FaceGen feature.
I'd be interested to know what people think about this issue.



I detest FaceGen created photos. I much prefer real or (with fantasy leagues) no photos.



Now, now. I don't have an issue with it, since I play only with real players. The main point is to give a multiplicity of options to choose from.

Hell's bells, Beach Boy, you don't even like the animated ball flights. There's room for all of the user-added bells & whistles, so lighten up.




They are ugly.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 9:14:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's cool BB, to each his own. For those of you still interested, there are other possibilities. Do you run with completely fictional cities and teams? OOTP community member silvam14 has done some amazing work and I could also ask him for permission to share with our little community. (Jonah Falcon has already said "go for it" when I asked about sharing his MLB uniform work with the PureSim folks.) Here is a sample of the fictional stuff...






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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 9:27:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		What a coincedence!

I have a fictional association based on non-MLB cities; it contains the Des Moines Dragons, Boise Spuds and Louisiana Pierres... talk about a PERFECT MATCH! Let me know when they're on your site and I'll download them post-haste!

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 9:48:21 PM   
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What a coincedence!

I have a fictional association based on non-MLB cities; it contains the Des Moines Dragons, Boise Spuds and Louisiana Pierres... talk about a PERFECT MATCH! Let me know when they're on your site and I'll download them post-haste!


Ok, that's pretty freaky as I chose those images TOTALLY at random...

Al

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/27/2007 10:44:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PadresFan104

That's cool BB, to each his own. For those of you still interested, there are other possibilities. Do you run with completely fictional cities and teams? OOTP community member silvam14 has done some amazing work and I could also ask him for permission to share with our little community. (Jonah Falcon has already said "go for it" when I asked about sharing his MLB uniform work with the PureSim folks.) Here is a sample of the fictional stuff...







Those look really good and make me want to start a fictional association LOL

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 6/28/2007 8:45:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Update: silvam, the guy who has done all of these fictional uniforms has given me the ok to convert his artwork to PureSim. The final hurdle is making sure this is ok with the guys at OOTP. I've sent a message to their Product Manager and am awaiting a reply.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/3/2007 11:46:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Frozen - what other teams do you have in your association... Let me see if I can get you a complete set!

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 12:03:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll get you the list tonight- I have the association at home and I'm currently on my work PC.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 12:25:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent! The teams from your league will represent my first fictional set of player images.

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 1:41:47 AM   
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You'd be my NEW BEST FRIEND, PadresFan! (Sorry KG... 2nd place ain't all that bad...).

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 1:57:13 AM   
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Just hope that there are uniform files for all of the teams in your association... (fingers crossed)

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 2:57:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can almost guarantee that you won't have my own team's uniform-- I am the proud skipper of the Havana Galleons.

=o)


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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 3:16:18 AM   
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I can almost guarantee that you won't have my own team's uniform-- I am the proud skipper of the Havana Galleons.

=o)



Then I guess you'll be presently surprised when you see the set...

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:15:07 AM   
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In alphabetical order:
Anchorage Sled Dogs
Annapolis Admirals
Atlantic City Monopoly Men
Boise Spuds
Bristol Pistols
Buffalo Hot Wings
Dallas Texans
Des Moines Puff Dragons
Detroit Big Blocks
El Paso Tacos
Havana Galleons *(my team!)
Honolulu Pipelines
Jackson Browns
Little Rock Scrappy Beavers
Louisiana Pierres
Minneapolis Huskies
Nashville Elvises
Ottawa Grizzlies
Palm Bay Captains of Swing
Portland Blizzard
Reno Blackjacks
Richmond Fighting Cocks (their mascot is a rooster for all you sickos)
Sacramento Governators
Salem Exorcists
Salt Lake City Mormons
Stockton Indian Balls
Topeka Marshals
Vancouver Lumberjacks
Virginia Hams
Wichita Twisters

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:18:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cool!  Would love to see the Fighting Cocks take on the Scrappy Beavers. 

I think I should be able to come up with images for a good number of these teams!  I'll keep you posted...


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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:21:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Outstanding! Being a guinea pig, any benefit I can receive would be great- uniforms for even one team is a great thing to receive... anything above that is a priceless gift. Thank you!

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:24:32 AM   
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Cool!  Would love to see the Fighting Cocks take on the Scrappy Beavers. 




Bad, PadresFan! Bad-Bad-PadresFan! Go sit in the corner!

...and for the record, Little Rock is 3-6 against Richmond. That's about the only way I can phrase this and keep it a family-friendly thread.






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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:36:54 AM   
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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 10:21:30 AM   
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You took a pair of perfectly innocent baseball teams and twisted them to fit your perverse images, sicko. On the left, is the logo for the Fighting Cocks; to the right is the Scrappy Beavers. I see nothing immoral or ethically challenging about this...










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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 10:31:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL love how this thread has changed for the worse :P

Can't wait to see a face pack come from all this.. I'll be starting a fictional association when it does.

QUESTION FOR PADRESFAN:

Is it possible with this facegen thing to make custom jersey logo's?

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:11:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		AK - Facegen takes jersey logos (and cap logos) that you feed it and spits out images like the ones in the posts above. So facegen doesn't make the custom logo's, but it does help create the custom jerseys. Hope that made sense...

Off to see a double-feature of Ratatouille and Die Hard as a holiday treat, then I'll probably hunker down for a while later today and see how many of FS's teams I can create images for...

Happy 4th everyone!

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RE: New Mod Work Underway - 7/4/2007 8:12:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		FS, almost forgot, if you want to e-mail me the custom logos you have for your teams, I can try and incorporate them into the uniforms if you want.

sixwilsons@mac.com

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