CEAW , Pace and History

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

CEAW , Pace and History

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> Commander - Europe at War Gold >> CEAW , Pace and History

Page: [1]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

CEAW , Pace and History - 7/1/2007 12:34:01 PM

Dave Ferguson

Posts: 302
Joined: 9/12/2000
From: Kent, United Kingdom
Status: offline

In the few games I have played I have noticed something which disturbs me, the pace of operations. Early war the axis do everything faster than historical, obviously there are advantages for the player in doing this.

1. You get the pp points earlier
2. You can set up 'perfect' invasions as there is no political cost
3. Most important - you reduce the time that the allied player has to build a defence.
4. there is no weather cost - attack France in February, never mind the rain, cloud and 8 hour days!

Denmark did not have any resources that made it worth taking out the country in October 1939. It was attacked because it was the route to Norway and DOW'd at the same time as Norway. Invading Denmark without a DOW on Norway woud have set alarm bells ringing in Oslo and London.

Holland also had no military value except as a route to Belgium. A DOW on Holland before a DOW on Belgium makes no sense other than to gain an advantageous starting position v Belgium.

Historically the French mobilisation was more advanced than the german!!! but the French troops were scattered all over France, not just on the border. Plus historically the strongest French armies were those in the Maginot line and lots of them!

For game balance you can't have a historical French set up as a agressive allied player would overrun western germany.
BUT as there are no units in production attacking early gives germany an advantage in force levels that they did not have historically.

On to the med. A axis all out offensive as soon as Italy joins is a good idea as the UK is struggling to stay alive and reinforceing Egypt is difficult, did it really take 5 months for troops to get there?

What is missing here is POLITICS, there is a section on politics in the script so why not in the game

Mid war the allies scatter numerous invasions eveywhere, where did they get the shipping??

For me this game does not 'feel' good.

Post #: 1

RE: CEAW , Pace and History - 7/1/2007 7:57:22 PM

targul

Posts: 449
Joined: 8/25/2004
Status: offline

Your points are correct and well taken. Game has lots of problems but all new releases do. It is with hope they will correct some of the issues especially weather and cooperation among allies concerning Holland.

Denmark is a normal 39 game freeby so this game is no different then most.

The med is undermaned and should be reinforced or some serious abuses will result.

Overall as a new release without its first patch I give it a C+. But I definitely consider it a keeper and worthy of play with some minor fixes.

_____________________________

Jim

Cant we just get along.
Hell no I want to kill something!

1st Cav Div 66-69 5th Special Forces 70-73

(in reply to Dave Ferguson)

Post #: 2

RE: CEAW , Pace and History - 7/1/2007 8:19:51 PM

IrishGuards

Posts: 542
Joined: 12/7/2006
Status: offline

IDG .. Axis ..
DoW .. Holland Turn 4 .. MVP .. Major Victory **** ..

I never seen so much Allied fleet in the Nor Sea as in this game ...
Only game to rival it is a game I am playing against Yohan ...
Targul is well on his way to killing some Italian Fleet ...
I waited 1 turn .. Next turn .. Belguim ..
Turn 6 ..

(in reply to targul)

Post #: 3

RE: CEAW , Pace and History - 7/1/2007 8:59:35 PM

IrishGuards

Posts: 542
Joined: 12/7/2006
Status: offline

I lied .. Turn 7 ..
DoW Belguim .. Has has the Corps in capital .. and a 1 factor garrison ..
IDG

(in reply to IrishGuards)

Post #: 4