Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Knockout Dropper

My Idea for recon is a periodicity pull down menu for targets. Say you want to bomb the snot out of rubber. You go to the rubber targets, sort the targets by capacity and location, then determine the periodicity you want them shot.

To get to it from the main menu, instead of clicking on "Recon Mission", it could be "Recon Doctrine". The target list could come up (one thing we could use there is the MASTER target list, with ALL of the targets listed). Select rubber, for example, the filter comes on, and the player can sort the factories by capacity, and look at distances to the target to determine mission viability. If a target is deemed likely to be bombed in the near future, the player can click on a pull down menu to select how often he would like the target overflown: daily, every other day, once a week, once every two weeks once a month or never. Set this list up the way you want it once, and make minor changes to it during game play.

The staff could automatically double/triple your periodicity if the target is damaged above 65 percent, then revert back to player's periodicity when the target is deemed bombable again.

A button should select whether or not you want the staff to auto-plan a recon mission to the targets bomber command hit the night before.

A "target group recon mission" could automatically select nearby targets (within 5-20 miles, or what ever you guys use) based on the player selecting one target. So say you had this option on, and you selected Schwinefurt as your target. The staff would automatically select the ball bearing factories nearby, thus eliminating the need to plot multiple missions to the same area. This can be incorporatedinto the "multiple mission bird" feature you brought up earlier. Instead of the aircraft taking pictures of targets it happens to overfly on its way to its primary target, this feature will allow the player to specify a specific area he wants recon to facilitate steel on target.

Another pull down menu on this page could select low, high level or both.

In another screen, you can determine recon's permitted altitudes
Two different settings are available here; low and high level
turn Spitfire XI's low level to "never", and high altitude to 40,000 to 44,000
turn F-5 on for low level, and high to 38,000 to 40,000
turn Mossie to "both"
This screen would allow player to doctrinally select recon assets to be tailored to their capabilities. Why use XIs for low level missions when they are nearly untouchable at 44K? The F-5s durability suits them to low level treetop runs, so why not have the doctrine in place to make it so?

I don't like the way BtR restricted my target selection during AVALANCHE. Yes, I know it's AVALANCHE, but at least let me select railyards OR airfields WITHIN AVALANCHE.

Recon should be able to determine aircraft type during airfield overflights. My imagery analysts at G-2 should be able to tell me if there are 32 single or twin engined aircraft at Woippy. Me 163 are pretty easy to identify, and should be identified to the allied player. Gun camera analysis/crew debriefings should give me enough intel from a strafing run to tell me specifically what aircraft models are at an airfield.

I want to see credit given for strafing runs. Pilots were credited for aircraft destroyed on the ground, so why not BtR? This will allow the player to gage the success of strafing missions in the after action review. The Top Pilot screen should reflect these totals. Also, a counter for AFV, Arty, AAA, and infantry destroyed from bombing would be nice too.

Get Fighter Command's night fighters into the war! I want to see an autoplot feature for them.

Minor issue: when setting times for mission starts, the "minus an hour" button will not reset the time to 0600.

Minor issue: messages need an overhaul, each message level should be tailored by the player. This is brought up because recon missions "radio in" when I have the message level set to 1. I don't care if the recce missions are over the target when the game is playing out.

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

Well, Elint was set up, to be able to learn about what the enemy had and then advance the start date of when the Allied Jammers come in (jammers should upgrade, homers and so on)

one hassle with that chart that came with the patches, is how the info is set up

and with the ECM type stuff the info looks like it may mean what it says, it don't, in fact, all devices have the same info lines (AA, MG, AFV, Plane part and so on)

so range may mean Alt for this, or it may mean the number of engines for that, or it may be a number that gets X's to get its finally number

in stock, the NJG were murder, in the patches and upgrades, the NJG pretty much went to sleep and never wakes up

so far, I got them working, but weakly at the start of the game and improving as the war goes on

(which I got so say, we got some nasties instore, if anybody ever builds them, and in this verison, they can be built, not like in stock, the Ta-154 can be built, the He-219, the Ju 88G, I think most players will just say, I want every 219 I can get, and bypass the rest, but we got some goodies in there, if they give them a chance)

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ORIGINAL: harley

Completely off topic, as is most of this thread now, but there is a non-restored ME262 at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. I went there one lunch time with a workmate, and we walked into this darkened area and there she was. Barely 6 inches from the walkway.

In my awe, I put my hand out to touch her, my mate said "DON'T TOU...." then the beeping started. Damn. I like to think I got a finger tip to it, but I'm not sure... We backed away to admire it, and within 15 seconds an AWM staff member cruised passed as if they were on regular rounds...

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ORIGINAL: Knockout Dropper

Hmm, sounds like the 219 was co-designed by Republic. They used to say if they built a runway around the equater, Republic would build a fighter that couldn't take off from it.

Special runways weren't a requirement to just the 219. The Me 262 needed special runways as well, concrete runways were recommended as the jet engines would melt tar runways, and of a certain length, if I remember right from reading one of my books.

Videoof Me 262 getting strafed:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1881994360824210862&q=%22Allied+Fighters+Strafe+Elite+German+ME-262+Jets%22+playable%3Atrue

HARD Sarge sez:
and yea, I would keep some Jumos around (even though it uses BMWs :)
Sure, the primary versions (J1, K1, and L1) use BMWs, but the 2 and 3 versions use JUMO 222s ans 213s. Kind of a moot point since my source website claims only 75 JU-388s were completed.
Source:
http://ju388.de/

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

at them moment, will have to say it is on the list and not in yet, we would like to be able to allow BC to be able to switch, but right now, they are a night only type

(early war, middle war and late war, BC did try to fly daylight raids, but overall, most were done in the dark, and oddly, in the end, they were still taking much heavier losses flying at night, then they would of had they flown in the day)

Bigger boys stole my sig

(in reply to Hard Sarge)

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ORIGINAL: Knockout Dropper

Knockout Dropper's wish list:

Cool to view for the german player would be a list of captured allied pilots in a "View Stalag Pilots" screen. Their kills could be viewed. Maybe a morgue as well.

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11) Another thing that gripes me is that the Axis ALWAYS has swarms of jets much earlier than historically. Can we just put in a "historical" OB for the Axis to use? If the Axis AI gets early jets, why cannot the Allied AI get B29s and whatever. The more that I read about engine supplies and production generally in Europe the more aware that I become that it is too easy for the Axis side to improve their condition over historical... somehow they never seem to come out worse than historical, so it is not a random distribution.

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

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11) Another thing that gripes me is that the Axis ALWAYS has swarms of jets much earlier than historically. Can we just put in a "historical" OB for the Axis to use? If the Axis AI gets early jets, why cannot the Allied AI get B29s and whatever. The more that I read about engine supplies and production generally in Europe the more aware that I become that it is too easy for the Axis side to improve their condition over historical... somehow they never seem to come out worse than historical, so it is not a random distribution.

a couple of issues show up here

one, the game was set up, with the 262 and engines already in production, so, they ended up being used for reseach, and so the plane was ready early in the game, as it was being reseached from the get go (the idea, was, if they player want to reseach it, they could take away from other planes that needed to be built, to spend time reseaching it

another hassle, was the training/testing unit, this unit becomes ready on so and so a date, if it is ready and formed, then the plane must be ready, so it can have planes to fly and test, so the plane was geared to be ready, with out reseaching it, by the date that the Kommado was to be formed

so, long story short, I not giving you free reseach, you have to do that on your own, and take away from planes that could be built, to try and get something that may be built

and the start date of the plane has been pushed back, the date that was being used, was not for a production model, but for one of the test models

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ORIGINAL: Dixie

This isn't really a wish, more of a question.  In the old version it seemed that if a night bombing unit was intercepted then 90% of the time the squadron leader went down in flames, has this been tweaked?

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ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

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ORIGINAL: Dixie

This isn't really a wish, more of a question. In the old version it seemed that if a night bombing unit was intercepted then 90% of the time the squadron leader went down in flames, has this been tweaked?

It's not just night bomber squadrons but all units of whatever nationality that seem to suffer a disproportionately high level of leader losses.

Bigger boys stole my sig

(in reply to von Shagmeister)

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ORIGINAL: Dixie
This isn't really a wish, more of a question. In the old version it seemed that if a night bombing unit was intercepted then 90% of the time the squadron leader went down in flames, has this been tweaked?