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Forming Divisions - 8/12/2007 4:18:40 PM   
ABridgeTooFar

 

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Do you really need a Div HQ to form a Division? I don't think I have ever seen a Div HQ unit.

I can't seem to figure out what prerequisites are needed to form a div. Sometimes I have the option available to my leader and other times (under what appears to be the same circumstances) I can not.

Can anyone fill me in?
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RE: Forming Divisions - 8/12/2007 8:21:12 PM   
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Hi!

Since Version 1.05 you don't need a DivHQ anymore.

Once upon a time Pocus wrote:
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To form a division, you need an activated general. First, you select the desired general, and click on the 'Enable Divisional Command' button (second panel of the Special Orders panels), showing a tent and a general before it. If the button is disabled, pass the mouse over; you will get explanations on the cause.

Restriction can happen because of:

a) The general is not active or is fixed.
b) You don’t have enough assets (10 Money, 5 War Supply, one conscript company)
c) The General is already in command of an army, a corps, a division.
d) The general is already integrated into a brigade or any other unit (you don’t need to create a division for that)

You have also a restriction on the number of divisions you can have on the field at the same time. The max number is 48 for USA and 24 for CSA, except in April 61 where you don't have your full potential (but it will rises as months pass). You can know how many divisions are on the field and how you are allowed by passing the mouse over the 'Enable Divisional Command' button (of a general capable of receiving the order).

When you click on this button, the General get a silver stripe. It means he is now able to form a division. This privilege has an administrative cost of 10 money, 5 war supplies and one conscript company (lack of assets can then prevent you from giving this order). Also, the turn the general gets this order, he is suffering from a -2/-2-1 penalty to all his ratings, so beware!

When you have your general ready, gather the units as usual with the (+) button, the same rules as before still apply (i.e. you can have up to 18 elements, and such).

Some precisions:

a) The turn after the general gets his order, the penalties are removed, unless you failed to pay the cost (in which case the division is still there, but the penalties too and you will have to pay the cost anyway the following turn).

b) If the general remains alone, without units under his direct command, he will revert automatically to a general without the privilege of forming up the division. This is intended and normal, as an anti-exploit rule.

c) You will pay the cost only if your general has received and still is under the order during hosting, meaning you can change your mind at will during a turn. You can even revoke the order (from a general having the privilege since some turns) and then restore the leader to his former privilege without any problem or cost: it is entirely reversible for you.

d) The administrative cost is never paid back. This is intended.

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RE: Forming Divisions - 8/12/2007 9:13:24 PM   
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I've had some situations where I could't figure out why a particular one star leader in an army could form a division, and another couldn't. I knew it wasn't due to reaching the limit on number of divisions. I've yet to figure that one out, unless (I didn't look for this at the time) the one stars that couldn't form divisions were inactive, even though they were in an active army?

Since I had other leaders on hand who could form divisions, I didn't pursue the reason too closely

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RE: Forming Divisions - 8/12/2007 10:27:28 PM   
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Well, from above (see if any of this is happening):

quote:

To form a division, you need an activated general. First, you select the desired general, and click on the 'Enable Divisional Command' button (second panel of the Special Orders panels), showing a tent and a general before it. If the button is disabled, pass the mouse over; you will get explanations on the cause.

Restriction can happen because of:

a) The general is not active or is fixed.
b) You don’t have enough assets (10 Money, 5 War Supply, one conscript company)
c) The General is already in command of an army, a corps, a division.
d) The general is already integrated into a brigade or any other unit (you don’t need to create a division for that)

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RE: Forming Divisions - 8/13/2007 5:08:42 AM   
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When your one star generals can't perform certain actions, including forming divisions it is because they are inactive, look for a brown envelope on their unit card, it shows they are inactive for this turn.
To be active a general has to pass a check, unless you have turned off activation rules in the options screen.

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RE: Forming Divisions - 8/13/2007 7:32:02 AM   
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I didn't look for that since I thought that the leaders "led" by an activated army commander would also be active...  Next time I'll check out that fine print.

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