Froonp
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ORIGINAL: lomyrin I have not seen the details, only the general descriptions. Apparently there are some strength changes and a few additional planes and ships as well as Minor country units and Volunteer units. SUB's seem to have a lot of changes. The Mech in Flames counter sheet is said to have quite a few changes. I would defer to Patrice for details as I am convinced that he will check it out. Lars I listed the changes, except for the new CS23. Here they are : CS7 : No change, except the Kit Identifier (Pl) added. CS8 : No change, except the Kit Identifier (Pl) added. CS9 : Kit Identifier (Pl) added. CW LND 1938 : Anson --> 1935 : Range no more in white circle CW LND 1936 : Anson (0-*-1-1-5) white circle --> 1936 : ATR Harrow (0-1-2-2-9) white circle CW NAV 1939 : Sunderland (3-1-2-1-20) --> 1939 : Sunderland (3-2-2-1-20) white circle no para CW ATR 1938 : C-47 (0-*-*-*-15) --> 1941 : C-47 (0-*-*-*-15) Japan NAV 1941 : D4Y1 (4-3-3-1-6 ext) --> 1943 : D4Y1 (4-3-3-1-6 ext) France ATR 1938 : C-47 (0-*-*-*-15) --> 1941 : C-47 (0-*-*-*-15) 1 new graphic is needed here, for the Harrow. CS18 : No change, except the Kit Identifier (S) added. CS19 : Kit Identifier (S) added. USA SUB (5-7-0-0-6-3) --> (3-7-0-0-6-3) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) USA SUB (3-8-0-0-4-4) --> Dated 1934 (was 1928) USA SUB (5-8-0-0-5-4) --> (5-7-0-0-5-4) dated 1943 (was 1941) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) USA SUB (2-8-0-0-5-3) --> Dated 1938 (was 1922) USA SUB (3-8-0-0-6-5) --> Dated 1944 (was 1938) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) USA SUB (4-8-0-0-6-4) --> (5-8-0-0-6-4) dated 1944 (was 1940) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) USA SUB (4-6-0-0-7-5) --> (3-6-0-0-5-3) dated 1941 (was 1943) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) USA SUB (6-7-0-0-4-3) --> (4-7-0-0-4-3) dated 1932 (was 1944) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) USA SUB (4-7-0-0-5-2) --> Dated 1939 (was 1935) Italy SUB (3-8-0-0-4-3) --> Dated 1933 (was 1935) Italy SUB (5-8-0-0-5-3) --> (4-8-0-0-5-2) dated 1940 (was 1941) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) Italy SUB (2-8-0-0-5-2) --> Dated 1935 (was 1927) Italy SUB (3-8-0-0-6-3) --> (4-8-0-0-6-3) dated 1943 (was 1939) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) Italy SUB (4-7-0-0-6-4) --> (3-8-0-0-5-4) dated 1941 (was 1940) Italy SUB (6-7-0-0-4-2) --> (5-7-0-0-6-2) dated 1943 (was 1942) Italy SUB (3-7-0-0-3-2) --> (3-7-0-0-4-4) dated 1938 (was 1922) Italy SUB (4-7-0-0-3-2) --> Dated 1928 (was 1937) China SUB (3-8-0-0-5-2) --> Dated 1942 (was 1939) China SUB (4-8-0-0-4-3) --> Dated 1938 (was 1942) CS20 : No change, except the Kit Identifier (S) added. CS21 : Kit Identifier (S) added. CW SUB (2-7-0-0-4-4) --> (3-7-0-0-4-4) dated 1938 (was 1927) CW SUB (3-7-0-0-6-4) --> Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) CW SUB (2-8-0-0-3-2) --> (2-8-0-0-4-2) dated 1925 (was 1915) CW SUB (5-7-0-0-4-3) --> (3-7-0-0-5-3) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) France SUB (3-7-0-0-6-3) --> Dated 1943 (was 1938) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) France SUB (2-7-0-0-4-2) --> Dated 1928 (was 1922) France SUB (5-8-0-0-5-3) --> (4-8-0-0-5-2) dated 1941 (was 1940) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) Germany SUB (6-6-0-0-6-4) --> (5-6-0-0-6-4) Germany SUB (5-7-0-0-7-4) --> Walter SUB Germany SUB (3-6-0-0-4-2) --> (3-6-0-0-5-2) dated 1938 (was 1936) Germany SUB (6-7-0-0-4-3) --> (3-7-0-0-6-3) dated 1940 (was 1942) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) Germany SUB (4-7-0-0-6-3) --> Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) Germany SUB (3-7-0-0-6-5) --> Dated 1942 (was 1940) Germany SUB (4-6-0-0-7-5) --> Walter SUB CS22 : Kit Identifier (S) added. USSR SUB (2-6-0-0-5-3) --> Dated 1938 (was 1931) USSR SUB (2-8-0-0-6-4) --> Dated 1942 (was 1933) USSR SUB (4-7-0-0-5-4) --> Dated 1943 (was 1937) USSR SUB (3-8-0-0-6-5) --> Dated 1944 (was 1940) USSR SUB (5-8-0-0-4-3) --> (5-8-0-0-5-2) dated 1941 (was 1943) Japan SUB (2-7-0-0-6-3) --> Dated 1939 (was 1935) Japan SUB (4-7-0-0-6-4) --> Dated 1943 (was 1942) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) Japan SUB (3-6-0-0-7-4) --> Dated 1944 (was 1943) Japan SUB (5-7-0-0-5-5) --> Dated 1942 (was 1941) Second Cycle Cost 2 (was 1) Japan SUB (5-6-0-0-3-3) --> (4-6-0-0-3-3) Dated 1934 (was 1940) Japan SUB (6-7-0-0-4-4) --> (5-7-0-0-4-4) Dated 1940 (was 1944) Second Cycle Cost 1 (was 2) CS24 : The difference between the 2000 and 2007 WiF Classic countersheet 24 is that some US Entry Chits are changed : 1939 0 --> 1 0 --> 1 1940 0 --> 1 0 --> 1 3 --> 2 4 --> 3 1941 3 --> 4 Previous values (CS24 from 2000 & CS14 from 2003) : Averages : 1939 2,27 1940 1,35 1941 3,47 1942 4,21 1943 5,08 Standard Deviations : 1939 1,39 1940 1,15 1941 1,41 1942 1,19 1943 1,00 2007 counters values (CS24 from 2007 & CS13 from 2003) : Averages : 1939 2,33 1940 1,35 1941 3,53 1942 4,21 1943 5,08 Standard Deviations : 1939 1,30 1940 0,93 1941 1,41 1942 1,19 1943 1,00 CS23 will be listed next. You can see reduced pictures of the new CS at the links accessible at http://perso.orange.fr/froon/WiF/counters/index.htm All in all, there are not much changes, only the SUBs that are made coherent with the 2003 ones (changed in the CS1-6), and the US Entry made a little less random. There will be at most a dozen new graphics to add to the game, most of them being on CS23 (only one is in those 9 CS, the Harrow). Not much to do for the gain IMO.
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