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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/16/2007 4:29:03 AM   
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Where would you put Ken Watanabe? Ozawa?


I kinda see Takeshi Kaga as Ozawa.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/16/2007 8:46:30 AM   
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"And CPO Shun???? Someone large, bald, quietly sinister, with a smile that appears only near the moment of his targeted victim's demise."

if I could choose somebody who would have been perfect for the part 40 years ago (maybe even 30 years ago) I would say Harold Sakata (Odd Job in Goldfinger).

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/16/2007 12:07:25 PM   
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Or Takeshi Kitano...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/16/2007 4:22:14 PM   
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Wow.  Vicky is heading back to fight Rommel?

I'd give Monty the finger over my CVs.  Oh wait, I -did- give Monty the finger... 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/16/2007 10:36:28 PM   
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Buried in the middle of the paper is an article that catches his eye. It reports that Japanese police recently raided a meeting of Japanese Communist Party members who were apparently conspiring to free Russian spy Richard Sorge from Sugamo Prison in Ikebukuro. Six men were arrested and one was killed, the article says. It adds that police are still looking for two men, one of them wounded, who evaded capture and fled.



Yet another brilliant bit of including overall history in its possible effects on the crew of the Hibiki. It's a pity you're not getting rich for this!


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 12:49:57 AM   
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Or Takeshi Kitano...


You have a point there, friend.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 4:52:17 AM   
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How about Chow Yun Fat as capt Ishii? (Although the Chinese get annoyed when one of their own plays a Japanese as uin Gong Li with memoirs of a Geisha)


I have enjoyed this discussion quite a bit. There was some tak about this back on page 18 as well, when I put up the poster for the movie. I absolutely endorse Harold Sakata as Shun, for what that's worth. And I think a younger Chow Yun Fat would have made a good Riku.

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Yet another brilliant bit of including overall history in its possible effects on the crew of the Hibiki. It's a pity you're not getting rich for this!


Ah, thanks for the compliment. Maybe once I sell the screenplay I can will see some of those riches.

The poster again, just because I like it:







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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 4:58:14 AM   
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March 1, 1943

Location: 840 miles south-southwest of Broome
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 4
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 398

Orders: Strike at enemy ships returning from the Timor operation

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The Japanese ships are spending their third day off the Australian coast. They have moved a bit closer, and are now approximately 200 miles southwest of North West Cape and Exmouth Bay. No one on board any of the ships knows the names of these places, however. All their maps show is the outline of the coast and a wide blank area. To some extent this is justified; this area is devoid of towns or even settlements of any size.*

So far no enemy ships have been seen. The Japanese steam slowly back and forth, waiting and watching.

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Ensigns Izu and Handa are playing a game of shogi in the wardroom. Lieutenant Miharu sits nearby, watching with interest but offering few comments. The two ensigns are using a shogi set made by Shiro for use aboard ship. The 81 rectangles that comprise the board are divided by slightly raised partitions, which prevent the pieces from sliding around.

“Is this the furthest south we have ever been?” asks Handa as he waits for Izu to make a move.

“No,” says Izu, not taking his eyes from the board. “We were further south than this that time off New Zealand.”

“Ah yes, I had forgotten,” says Handa. “That was a similar sort of mission, come to think of it. And it was also very hot.” It has in fact been warm. The temperature has been well over 90 the last couple of days, moderated only slightly by a lackluster breeze. Ensign Izu picks up a captured lance and places it on the board. Handa’s eyes narrow as he studies the ramifications of the move.

“At least the fact that it is summer here means good weather for spotting enemy ships,” comments Izu. Handa, who is studying the pieces that Izu still has “in hand”, says nothing, but Lieutenant Miharu speaks for the first time.

“This is also typhoon season for this area,” he says. “But it looks as though the weather will remain calm for the next several days, at least.” The game continues for a few moments in silence. Then Handa completes a move.

“Australia seems to be very sparsely populated,” he says, leaning back. “I am surprised we have not conquered it.” Lieutenant Miharu chuckles.

“It is also very large,” he says. “And the parts that would be worth conquering are not all stretches of wasteland. There are a lot of Australians, here and there. We would have been raving to imagine we could conquer the entire thing. I think you need to spend more time studying the maps, Ensign.” Handa sighs.

“You are probably right, sir,” he says. “And I do seem to recall hearing that the entire country is populated by criminals. It stands to reason they would be very fierce fighters.” Miharu laughs.

“It was a British penal colony once, true,” he says. “But that was a long time ago.”

“The way I see it, sir, I don’t have to understand them,” explains Handa by way of apology. “I just have to know how to kill them.”

“You’ve been working under Lieutenant Sugiyura, haven’t you, Ensign?” asks the lieutenant.

“Yes sir, why?” says Handa. Izu leans forward and makes a move.

“Nothing,” says Miharu. “It does explain a lot, though.”

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* Note: in real life this lonely stretch of coast was not completely empty. The US Navy set up a submarine refueling station and PBY base at Exmouth Bay in 1942. This game is being played on the stock map, however, so no base exists there. Exmouth exists as a dot base on Andrew Brown’s map.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 5:00:07 AM   
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March 2, 1943

Location: 750 miles south-southwest of Broome
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 4
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 377

Orders: Strike at enemy ships returning from the Timor operation

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“Ah, good evening, Exec,” Captain Ishii says as Lieutenant Miharu comes onto the bridge. “We have some new orders. Admiral Ozawa has decided to take us in closer to the coast once it grows dark.”

“Yes sir,” says the lieutenant. “How close?”

“To within about 100 miles,” says Ishii. “There are no signs that the enemy has any bases anywhere in the area, and this way we can cover more of the coastline.”

“Is the Admiral getting impatient already, do you think?” asks Miharu. Captain Ishii shakes his head.

“Ozawa? Not likely,” says the captain. “I believe he has simply made a cautious approach and now that it looks safe he is putting us in a better position to do some damage.”

“Very well, sir,” says the lieutenant. “When morning comes perhaps we will find some targets for our planes.”

“If not tomorrow then soon, Exec,” says Captain Ishii. “I doubt all the enemy fish have slipped the net already.”

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 5:34:46 AM   
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The plot thickens; the suspense holds us like a moth to a bright light. 

Well done, Mr Cuttlefish.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 6:39:08 AM   
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Get on with it. G.darn it!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 7:17:32 AM   
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Patience, Kaleum.  Give the artist time to weave his story.  Great work is not massed producted with cookie cutter speed.  Savor the moment, my friend. 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 5:59:40 PM   
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I am savoring it.
I am savoring it.
Next chapter please...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 8:05:04 PM   
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Actually this AAR is why I did not post AAR of my newest games as Japanese. It is hard to compete with something like this.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 8:29:57 PM   
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March 3, 1943

Location: 750 miles south-southwest of Broome
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 4
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 359

Orders: Strike at enemy ships returning from the Timor operation

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It used to be a practice, when hunting tigers in India, to stake out a goat and wait under cover for the tiger to approach. This made catching the tiger much easier, but it tended to be hard on the goat.

It is not a common practice in Western navies to use one of their ships in this manner. And in fact if the Admiralty were aware of the danger they would send urgent messages to the Emerald-class light cruiser HMS Enterprise, now sailing south from Derby, warning them that they were sailing to their doom. But the Admiralty does not know and so the Enterprise, damaged by air attack off Timor, continues placidly on her way.

The stalking goat is about to enter to hunting grounds of the tiger.

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HMS Enterprise:







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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 8:41:25 PM   
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an update.....


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/17/2007 8:47:32 PM   
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Enterprise vs. KB.  Now there's something I doubt even Capt. Kirk can weasle his way out of!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/18/2007 3:00:54 AM   
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March 4, 1943

Location: 750 miles south-southwest of Broome
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 4
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 316

Orders: Strike at enemy ships returning from the Timor operation

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In the morning search planes reveal to the Japanese the presence of HMS Enterprise, moving along the Australian coast barely 90 miles to the southeast. There is brief debate among Ozawa and his staff whether to wait for a bigger prize or to strike now. Ozawa decides in favor of a strike; yes, a better target might come along tomorrow, but the cruiser is here today. The Japanese carriers send off a dozen fighters and about forty bombers to deal with the lone ship.

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HMS Victorious and the rest of the task force have made excellent time since leaving Sydney, and by mid-morning they are some 300 miles south of Exmouth Bay. An Avenger torpedo bomber on a routine patrol comes across a number of wakes cutting across the calm ocean, and the pilot follows them right to the Japanese fleet. He observes the three carriers, all launching planes, and sends a frantic report back to Victorious.

The British can only assume they have been discovered. Victorious has little chance against three Japanese carriers, but the British are determined to make a fight of it. They send everything they have, 16 Seafires and 20 Avengers, winging north.

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“The target is reported sunk, sir,” the radio operator tells Captain Ishii via the speaking tube. “The planes are returning.”

“Thank you,” Ishii replies. “We will be coming about again soon to recover planes,” he tells the bridge. “Keep an eye on Zuikaku for the signal.” Hibiki is currently to port and slightly astern of the big carrier. He receives acknowledgement and starts to step out onto the observation wing to watch for the returning planes.

“Sir!” comes the radio operator’s voice again. “Our fighters report enemy planes inbound from the south!”

“The south!” says Ishii. “Where the hell did they come from? Combat stations, now!” Hibiki erupts into frantic activity as the klaxon begins to sound. None too soon. Already the enemy planes are visible. Two Zero-sen fighters roar over Hibiki, their engines screaming as they come to full power and start to climb.

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The Japanese have left a prudent combat air patrol over their ships, but the last direction they expected trouble from was the south. Many planes are out of position as the British aircraft come boring in. The Seafires move to deal with the rest. They pay for it, losing several planes to the guns of the Japanese fighters, but the Avengers slip underneath the fray and come in at the Japanese ships.

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In the forward 25mm gun tub Taiki is watching three Avengers. They are ahead of Hibiki, passing from left to right as they begin their run on Zuikaku. A Zero-sen fighter is on the tail of one and it begins to smoke as the plane jinks back and forth, trying to stay in the air long enough to reach its release point. The plane releases its torpedo too far out to be effective and then turns away, still pursued by the Japanese fighter.

Taiki tracks the second plane as it crosses Hibiki’s bow about 400 meters ahead. He stands so still that his crew thinks that perhaps their young gun captain has frozen. But Taiki is calculating, and almost immediately he gives orders to lay the guns and open fire. The three 25 mm guns roar, and tracers reach out to intersect the Avenger. It explodes, and pieces of aircraft spin into the ocean.

The last Avenger makes a good drop and banks away, evading the anti-aircraft fire from the carrier. The torpedo makes its deadly run straight at Zuikaku. The big carrier attempts with ponderous grace to turn away, but the torpedo comes relentlessly on and its track intersects with the side of the carrier. There is a thunk and the torpedo breaks in half and sinks, a dud.

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Zuikaku comes through unscathed, and there is cheering aboard Hibiki. This celebration is abruptly cut off by the sound of an explosion rolling across the water. Some 1000 meters behind Zuikaku a torpedo has found Hiryu, and this one is not a dud. As Hibiki’s crew turns and looks a second torpedo slams home against the carrier. Hiryu shudders under the impacts and slows almost to a stop, smoke roiling upwards.

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The surviving British planes head for home, chased by the Japanese fighters. Only a handful have been shot down, but many of them have been damaged.

The Japanese planes returning from the strike against HMS Enterprise have to wait until the battle is over before they can begin to land. Hiryu is wounded, perhaps mortally, so her returning planes are divided among the two surviving carriers. Fortunately the carriers are under strength enough that this does not leave either Zuikaku or Akagi overcrowded.

Now the Japanese must find and retaliate against their adversary.

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The British know they are still facing two carriers, and that they can expect to get hit. They quickly turn around their returning planes and launch another strike. All they can put in the air are eight Avengers and a few fighters, but it is better than sitting around and waiting for the Japanese to act.

This second strike crosses the Japanese attack. Victorious has been quickly located and 17 fighters escort 41 dive and torpedo bombers are dispatched to sink the British carrier.

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Aboard Hibiki they listen tensely to the broadcasts of the pilots as the Japanese begin their attack. Only five Seafires rise to meet the oncoming threat, and these are no match for the Japanese fighters. Victorious is ready for destruction.

But now the attacking Japanese planes make a fatal blunder. In the foreground of the British task force is Prince of Wales, and for reasons that will never be clearly understood almost all the torpedo bombers and many of the dive bombers choose to strike this ship. Prince of Wales is subject to a vicious attack, but the anti aircraft fire from the battleship and her escorts is heavy and accurate. The big ship takes one torpedo and a pair of bomb hits, but her survival is not seriously threatened.

A lone bomb strikes Victorious. It takes out an anti aircraft gallery but does little damage otherwise.

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The second British attack seems gallant but doomed, and in fact few planes return. One Avenger, however, sneaks through the covering fighters and the flak and puts a torpedo right into the side of Akagi. The Japanese carrier is not heavily damaged, fortunately, and the flooding is quickly contained.

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As the afternoon draws on the two forces begin to separate. Victorious is intact but has almost no planes left; the Japanese are in disarray and two of their three carriers are damaged. Ozawa still has hopes of finishing off the British carrier, but his first priority at the moment is saving Hiryu. Akagi is limping a bit but able to launch and recover planes.

Hiryu has her fires mostly under control. Flooding is a more serious problem, and as night falls the carrier is still battling the sea as it works on loosened hull plates and tries to bypass damaged bulkheads. Ozawa orders his ships to head for Tjilitjap, the closest port where the carrier might possibly be saved. They must proceed with agonizing slowness, however, and Tjilitjap is a very long ways away.

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Hiryu watch: Sys damage 34, Flood 43, Fires 14. Distance to port: 1000 miles

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/18/2007 3:26:04 AM   
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I gotta cheer for the guys that fly the Union Jack on this one!



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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/18/2007 4:19:52 AM   
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Chapter Title: Vicky Faces the Giants
 
Wow, not only does Vicky survive to tell of this moment in history, but Hiryu may not.  But for a dud, all three Japanese CVs would have left the field bearing scars from their joust with HMS Victorious.  A ship aptly named, one would have to say.  Hip. hip hurray for a grand gal.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/19/2007 10:59:06 PM   
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Ozawa orders his ships to head for Tjilitjap, the closest port where the carrier might possibly be saved. They must proceed with agonizing slowness, however, and Tjilitjap is a very long ways away.

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Hiryu watch: Sys damage 34, Flood 43, Fires 14. Distance to port: 1000 miles



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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/20/2007 11:57:11 AM   
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Three cheers for the RN

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/20/2007 9:06:29 PM   
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I gotta cheer for the guys that fly the Union Jack on this one!

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Yeah, yeah, hooray for the Royal Navy. Jolly good show and all that. Now if everyone has that out of their system let's get back to what's happening aboard Hibiki.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/20/2007 9:09:39 PM   
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March 5, 1943

Location: 750 miles southwest of Broome
Course: Northeast
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 4
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 294

Orders: Escort damaged carriers to Tjilitjap for emergency repairs

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“Do you know anything about Tjilitjap, Exec?” asks Captain Ishii. His pronunciation of the name sounds a bit like “silly cap”.

“Very little, sir,” Lieutenant Miharu answers. “It’s the only decently sized seaport on the south coast of Java, and I’ve heard it has a pretty good harbor sheltered behind some large island just off the coast. But I don’t know anything else about the place, or what forces we have there.” Captain Ishii grunts.

“Well, I’d say we will find out soon, but not at the speed we’re making,” he says. “I understand that to go any faster would only speed up the flooding on Hiryu, but this pace is maddening. If the enemy has any submarines out there they can hardy miss a target like this.”

“We will have to trust to luck, then,” says the lieutenant. “The Indian Ocean is a big place.”

“Luck,” says Ishii musingly. “Well, we had little enough of it yesterday, perhaps we are due for some. At least Hiryu reports that the pumps are able to keep up with the flooding.” He pauses, then paces across the bridge and peers at the injured carrier through a pair of the big 21 centimeter binoculars. “She does seem to be down a little by the bow, maybe more than she was this morning,” he says, then removes his gaze and turns back to Lieutenant Miharu.

“Nothing we can do about that at the moment,” he says. “We just need to do our part to make sure she takes no more damage. Post a couple of extra lookouts tonight.”

“Yes sir,” says Miharu. “Good night, sir.” Captain Ishii leaves the bridge. As the sun draws towards the horizon Hibiki continues to prowl restlessly around the perimeter of the slowly moving task force.

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Hiryu watch: Sys damage 40, Flood 46, Fires 4. Distance to port: 900 miles


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/20/2007 9:35:28 PM   
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Gnaws on fingernail.
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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/20/2007 10:13:09 PM   
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What does the deck log say for current speed (in this case of Hiryu)?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/20/2007 10:31:22 PM   
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Hiryu watch: Sys damage 40, Flood 46, Fires 4. Distance to port: 900 miles




Ouch. 8 days to port. Cross your fingers.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/21/2007 12:28:30 AM   
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I hope he was smart enough to send a handful of AR's to give her a chance.
If not, she may make port and sink there. 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/22/2007 3:21:53 AM   
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March 6, 1943

Location: 800 miles southwest of Broome
Course: Northeast
Attached to: TF 72
Mission: Air Combat
System Damage: 4
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 271

Orders: Escort damaged carriers to Tjilitjap for emergency repairs

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From the diary of Petty Officer Third Class Taiki Takahashi:

Lieutenant Miharu took a moment today to tell me to pass his compliments to my gun crew for shooting down that plane the other day. I thanked him and assured him I would, and I will. The men did a good job.

It’s a funny thing. While the attack was going on we were shooting at a plane. And I was very happy when we destroyed it. But since then I have had time to think that there were two men in that plane, men I killed. I think we hit the torpedo warhead, the way the plane exploded, so it was probably very quick for them. But thinking about it as killing men instead of targets makes it seem different. More of a grim business. Since it is necessary to kill the enemy to keep them from killing us, I will try not to think about it that way. Not now. Maybe someday, after all this is over.

Our progress is very slow. Hiryu keeps having engine problems, and can’t steam at any kind of speed even when they’re working. I came across some of the sailors setting up a betting pool about whether or not she will make to port, and put a stop to that very quickly. It just seems to show too little respect for the men who are trying so hard to save her.

There is not much else going on. I have been thinking about Noboru lately. It has been a long time since we had any news from home. The last I heard Mutsu was still in port, but that was some time ago. Has Noboru recovered from his injuries, and is he aboard if Mutsu is back in the war? I don’t know of any fighting going on elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean anything. There could be fighting all over the Pacific lately and we would not have heard about it.

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Hiryu watch: Sys damage 42, Flood 50, Fires 0. Distance to port: 780 miles


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(* big sigh *)

I was missing my Hibiki fix.

Flood is creeping up...

Perhaps a slow death?



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