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My Only Request - 8/24/2007 8:14:41 PM

MIGMaster

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After playing HC for a number of years, I beg you - please fix the fact aircraft crash into the ground at low atltitude so frequently!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always hated the fact that strike formation of Tornadoes with the terrain avoidance radar smashed into the ground (or sea) just as much as non-equipped aircraft. It seemed to happen so frequently that it robs the game of using this realistic tactic.

A number of modders have claimed to fix this, but I still have yet to see it done correctly. I can see one plane - here or there - crashing into the ground while flying low altitude, but to lose dozens of planes in one scenario is just ridiculous !!!!!

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RE: My Only Request - 8/24/2007 9:37:55 PM

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Good post. I stopped using the low altitude tactic years ago for the same reason and just got so used to doing without it that I eventually forgot about it. I remember at the time feeling that a game that prides itself on accurate combat modeling shouldn't have such a bug. If it is still crawling around, I would also like to see it squashed.

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RE: My Only Request - 8/24/2007 10:41:46 PM

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Before we cracked open the code for Harpoon Classic and made it possible to edit the database, certain aircraft had a "chance" of crashing into terrain while flying at Very low (Vlow) altitude. (It would not ever have happened at Low altitude).

Now, with the editable database, the ability to fly at "terrain following" height is controlled by a flag in the DB. Oddly enough, this is the LRMTS (Laser Ranger and Marked Target Seeker) flag, which on its face has of course nothing to do with terrain following/terrain avoiding flight. Thus, aircraft with the LRMTS flag are able to fly at Vlow altitude, while those without the flag still face that "roll of the dice" where they might crash.

I have a feeling that many of the people posting here are referencing some of the really old limitations of HC and probably haven't tried any version of it since HC97, because this particular feature (i.e. the ability to edit an aircraft's terrain following abilities) has been around for years now.

I think you can safely consider this one "bug" squashed, folks.

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RE: My Only Request - 8/27/2007 12:19:42 AM

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quote:

I have a feeling that many of the people posting here are referencing some of the really old limitations of HC and probably haven't tried any version of it since HC97

Here in Germany HC97 was the last version you could buy in the shops and if anyone do not know about buying at AGSI - this is the last version out here. Don't know about buying Harpoon in the us, but without a distributor in germany i think not much people know about it. If you find similar situation in other countries why you wondering about so much comments based on HC97?

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RE: My Only Request - 8/27/2007 1:53:41 AM

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I still ran into that problem ( you're right it was very low, not low altitude) with the HC 2002 demo. That's why I decide to stick with my copy of HC 97 instead of purchase HC 2002 GOLD. I was desperately hoping for H4, but we all know what happened there

I'm still hoping for a H4 style sim with Fleet Command style graphics...

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RE: My Only Request - 8/27/2007 2:39:57 PM

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Hi

I bought my copy online via the AGASI hompage.
Cause here in Flensburg no shop had a copy of HC at all....

Regards Ren�

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RE: My Only Request - 8/27/2007 2:42:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: MIGMaster

I still ran into that problem ( you're right it was very low, not low altitude) with the HC 2002 demo.

You get only the old Battlesets with the demo. And these BS have no editable db! The Problem is solved with the 5 actual BS, cuase they use the new Databases. And BTW we got at least 4 or 5 usable dbs at the Moment. You can use the HCDB wich is shipped with HCE wich all BS-Scens and the other dbs with their dedicated scens.

Regards Ren�

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RE: My Only Request - 8/27/2007 3:38:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: MIGMaster
I still ran into that problem ( you're right it was very low, not low altitude) with the HC 2002 demo.

Rene is correct. With the demo you haven't yet been able to take advantage of the editable database, which of course would include the fixed terrain following flight flags.

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RE: My Only Request - 8/29/2007 5:57:51 PM

MIGMaster

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Damn that Demo !!!!