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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/25/2007 12:21:36 AM

Erik Rutins

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One thing I'll note here is that FOF on release was more focused on a balanced rather than necessarily strict historical game. Although it included a historical July scenario, the standard scenario started in November and took some liberties with force and economic balance. In hindsight, that was probably not the best call and left a lot of folks with the impression that the game was not historical enough. Anyway, I've seen a lot of commentary since that seems based only on that first version of the game.

However, since release each update has progressively improved that - now there are two strictly historical scenarios with both historical force and economic balances and each has been improved again for the next update. In addition, the historical units and historical biographies for the generals of each side have been further expanded, etc.

I enjoy both AACW and FOF (as I've posted before) and I think both are essential to any ACW gamer's library, but I would encourage those who played the original FOF as released but haven't tried the latest FOF updates to also give it a second look at some point in the future.

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- Erik

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/28/2007 2:47:25 PM

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So Erik, when will we be able to try the third Matrix published ACW game?

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/28/2007 2:53:41 PM

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Hehe, well this year for sure but I can't get more specific than that yet. It's coming along very nicely though.

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/28/2007 5:07:44 PM

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I am not sure about this but I hear Gary Grigsby ACW will be coming out ? It is based on World at War Engine ..this will be a must buy for me !!!

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/30/2007 4:45:32 PM

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For me too. This AACW thing is too detailed for the few hours I can spend on playing!

. Will I be able to play GG ACW without doing the tutorial nor the manual, as 90% of the players do (not...)

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/31/2007 4:01:38 AM

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I always find it funny how these things go in cycles. No strategic CW games for ages and then boom, boom, boom! Can't you game designers get together and like, anti-coordinate or something! :)

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 8/31/2007 11:54:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pocus

For me too. This AACW thing is too detailed for the few hours I can spend on playing! . Will I be able to play GG ACW without doing the tutorial nor the manual, as 90% of the players do (not...)

Hmm..so should we suppose Gary Grigsby is a now making simpler games so that he can play them more ? Sure he hadn't much time to play WitP ...

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 9/1/2007 4:03:48 AM

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Congratz...I admire anyone who has the personal will to actually play WitP with another human person. I love that game but I can barely
beat the computer. :-) Maybe one of these days I will get a handle on that game and try playing with another person.

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 9/1/2007 4:41:43 AM

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I disagree with this statement. The first thing I look for in any game is what I call flow. How do the various parts and actions of the player and the game seem to fit together.
On this basis AACW comes out on top because no matter how you feel about the game it does play very smooth and the AI is always doing something different. To say that each needs a bit of the other to me is totally wrong. If I want a more civ like game with a tactical feel in the battles then I play FoF. If I want a more strategic feel where I give the orders and see what happens then I play AACW. The one thing I don't want is total control that is the ability to do everything in a game. AACW puts you at the top of the command chain and you give orders and plan moves you never quite know the out come. I do not need the detailed combat to feel like the civil war period. I also do not need the ability to produce every little item as in FoF. For me AACW gives me more of a feeling that I am dealing with the same problems of the real war and FoF with its "Roll Your Own" approach with being able to choose your own rules at times gives me the feeling that I am fighting the civil war BUT I am not within the framework of the civil war. AACW for me is much more the latter and FOf more the former.
All in all however I like them both and feel that both will be improved with time. Which I play depends on my mood. Each game has its own look which will improve but not change the basic way each game chooses to portray the civil war. AACW will always be more strategic and FoF more operational (tactical), but to each his own...I like them both

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RE: I bought FOF and Disliked It , How about this game? - 9/1/2007 4:48:33 AM

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Yeah I pretty much agree to what you are saying. I have spent a lot of hours playing FoF when I wrote the post you are replying to. I think,like you, that FoF will get better with time.
I have now been playing AACW for awhile and it is very nice. I have hopes for FoF but it will take some time. You put it much better in your post than I.

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