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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 8/31/2007 3:51:46 AM   
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Still no nukes...guess Andy is trying to figute out were he wants to drop it.
My guess is Tokyo/Gumma. Nothing we can do about it. Re-tooling many smaller factories
to produce Shindens - this is our only war winning weapon.

For some time I have been unloading supply ships at Legaspi - a size 1 port...takes
a long time but until now we have escaped attention. In all some 120k supplies have been
loaded on cargo ships and ca 50k already unloaded.

Today large number of enemy LBA on search modus appeared over Legaspi followed by all kinds
of attack ac. These suffered badly to our CAP.

In the PM phase an enemy surface group sank or damaged a dozen transports (ca 1/4 of the total number there).
The surface groups we assigned didn't interfer. Maybe because cautious msw surface TF isn't very aggressive, and
because the PC group was on ASW mission.

I must strongly emphasize how important these 50k supplies were to Luzon.
Without them we would have been in serious trouble in a few weeks. Will unload as much as possible before our ships
are sunk.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/02/45

Air Combat

Home Islands

Andy is clearly after our Shinden factories now!
105 B-29s hit Maizuru and damaged the factory there. Being driven to fly 6/7 days a week,
morale is dropping and we will soon be able to turn most of the intruders.

Day Air attack on Maizuru , at 62,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 29 (Leaky CAP from Osaka)

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 105 (73 got through)

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 9 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 27 damaged

hits 11
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Luzon

Got 255 AS in Legaspi and more than 100 CAP fighters:

Day Air attack on Legaspi , at 44,55

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 11
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 16
Ki-100 Tony x 12
Ki-102a Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 9
P-51D Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 6
B-29 Superfortress x 71

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 5
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Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13
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Day Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 9
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 9
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 15
Ki-100 Tony x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 5
B-24J Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 3 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
MSW W.38, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PC PC-87, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PC PC-126, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Our 'trick' is to keep TFs at Takao under an overwhelmingly strong CAP umbrella.
Since this base is closer to Andy's bases in northern Luzon than Legaspi, a certain number
of his strikes will be lured here and destroyed!

I'm mean, ain't I

Day Air attack on TF, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 66
J7W Shinden x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 43
Ki-102a Randy x 20

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 3 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 12
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 9
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 16
Ki-100 Tony x 3
Ki-102a Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 20
B-24J Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 2 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 10 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 7 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Koto Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Toten Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 12
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 9
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 15
Ki-100 Tony x 3
Ki-102a Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Kosho Maru
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After several failed attempts we finally got through to some enemy ships at Vigan
and 2 destroyers were hit - one left burnign and badly damaged.

Day Air attack on TF, near Vigan at 44,49

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 23
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 4
P-51D Mustang x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 6 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Cotten, Bomb hits 1
APD Loy
DD Picking, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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India

Day Air attack on TF at 22,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 19
B6N Jill x 18
Ki-67 Peggy x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 19 destroyed
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Ida M. Tarbell
DMS Chandler
LSD Lindenwald, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
AP Cape Neddick
AP Laurens
DE Lake
LSV Ozark
DE Donaldson
LSD Ashland
AK J. Frank Cooper, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire
AP New Kent

Allied ground losses:
65 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,23

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
G4M2 Betty x 3
P1Y Frances x 5
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P1Y Frances: 2 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
LSD Cabildo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Laurens
LSD Epping Forest, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
LSD Gunston Hall
DE Stadtfeld

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
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Day Surface Combat

I think enemy TF is all but out of ammo after this round - this gives us another
day to unload! 30-40 cargo ships can unload 15-20k supplies in 1 day even in a size 1 port.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Hide Maru, Shell hits 31, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Hoko Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Raizan Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Sagami Maru, Shell hits 24, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Nanman Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Shinrei Maru, Shell hits 29, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Kyusyu Maru, Shell hits 11, on fire

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Brisbane Maru, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Kongo Maru, Shell hits 25, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
AK Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese Ships
PC PC-1, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Raleigh
DD Taussig
DD Beale
DD Bennett
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68317 troops, 858 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1923

Defending force 63289 troops, 613 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1331

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Just what we need! Enemy assault failed with heavy casualties.
Looks like enemy is stalled at Lingayen and Clark Field.
Maybe we can drag this battle out indefinetly and pre-empt any further offensive towards
the Home Islands!!

Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 134505 troops, 1552 guns, 428 vehicles, Assault Value = 3221

Defending force 66516 troops, 665 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1264

Allied max assault: 3024 - adjusted assault: 1547

Japanese max defense: 1149 - adjusted defense: 2845

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
1093 casualties reported
Guns lost 39

Allied ground losses:
3376 casualties reported
Guns lost 176
Vehicles lost 5
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 134968 troops, 1297 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3386

Defending force 98926 troops, 873 guns, 339 vehicles, Assault Value = 1998

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
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Our unit east of Clark attempts to attack 2 enemy depleted Sea Bee units..with little luck!

Ground combat at 44,51

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 887 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52

Defending force 1940 troops, 0 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese max assault: 44 - adjusted assault: 11

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1
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Struggle for Luzon




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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 8/31/2007 9:10:54 AM   
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How does your resource situation look like on Home Islands? Are you transfering some resources from Port Arthur/Manchuria? Or you depend on DEI resources and oil?

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 8/31/2007 2:07:17 PM   
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There are the occasional resource convoy coming in from China and blocade breaker oil tankers still manage to slip through.
Basically we live on Home Island resources and stock piles.

China, India/Burma production sustains our HI while we draw on reserves.
Only very important factories are repaired if damaged in air strikes and this is a way to cut back on production in order to make
reserves last longer. E.g Frank fighters and transport ac production has been turned off since pools are big enough.
The aim is to have big enough ac pools by the end of the year to manage throughout the last few months. Then we can keep on producing
Shindens and other on demand types right through the end.

Naval production is now reduced to the HA class subs only (all accelerated) as well as some MSW and PC types.
No more air or ground units will arrive and there are no more ac types to research.

It seems to me that we're going to manage to get through the war without suffering all the grievances Japan had in real life!
Andy kind off gave up on the sub war - me thinks he shouldn't have as I've been running almost unescorted convoys from Kwantung and China
for almost a year without being intercepted.

Now we're preparing for one last round of unrelentless battle!
Hope to get the Combined Fleet ready in time - looks like we need another 3-4 months though.


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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/3/2007 12:51:54 AM   
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Back in business after surviving my Stag party
Trip with glider was cancelled due to poor weather. Did some paintball after a trip
with a belt wagon (BV - swedish made). Landed some good hits Later on we went to an Aha concert
in pouring rain before nach spiel...was a tough morning today

Upgraded first George unit to Shinden in Harbin today. Defenses in Kwantung almost ready.
A Tank Army with 600 tanks is gathering.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/03/45

Air Combat

Luzon

Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 41

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 19
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India

Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 68
Ki-100 Tony x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 188th USA Glider Regiment, at 34,24

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
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Numerous enemy TFs continue to shuttle troops to Yanam! Todays respons was heavy
and several enemy transports were damaged or sunk. Survivors picked up by an Emily
float plane reveals that they belong to an enemy Parachute division. This information
has been forwarded to Supreme Command. It is obvious that Andy intends to hit our flanks.

Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 8
B7A Grace x 28
Ki-67 Peggy x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Bull
APD Hollis
APD Newman
APD Belknap
APD Crosley
APD Ray K. Edwards, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
APD Walsh, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
APD Jack C. Robinson
APD Bates
APD Ruchamkin

Allied ground losses:
114 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
G4M2 Betty x 9
P1Y Frances x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 7 damaged
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
APD Ruchamkin
APD John Q. Roberts
APD Walsh, on fire, heavy damage
APD John P. Gray
APD Walter B. Cobb, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
APD Ray K. Edwards, on fire, heavy damage
APD Newman

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 6
B7A Grace x 2
Ki-67 Peggy x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Crosley
APD Blessman
APD Ruchamkin
APD Newman
APD Register
APD Hopping, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
G4M2 Betty x 6
P1Y Frances x 2
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged
P1Y Frances: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Ruchamkin
APD Ray K. Edwards, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD John P. Gray
APD John Q. Roberts, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
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Sumatra

Day Air attack on TF, near Medan at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zeke x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zeke: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
SC SC-519, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68421 troops, 861 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1545

Defending force 63311 troops, 612 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1329

Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 135422 troops, 1314 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3407

Defending force 99038 troops, 881 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 2010 - Over 2k, feeling increasingly safe!

Japanese ground losses:
226 casualties reported
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Air Strike on enemy fast transport TFs heading for Yanam!

Planetop from The Elf. Will show you a variety of ac in the weeks to come.





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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/3/2007 2:21:51 AM   
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aha rocks! take on me is one of the best videos ever made PERIOD, and The Sun Always Shines On TV is a brilliantly written and heavy 80's song. of course those 2 songs were all we ever heard of them in canada, but nice to hear they'r still around!

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/3/2007 8:34:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flanker Leader

aha rocks! take on me is one of the best videos ever made PERIOD, and The Sun Always Shines On TV is a brilliantly written and heavy 80's song. of course those 2 songs were all we ever heard of them in canada, but nice to hear they'r still around!


aah good ole nostalgia , only those 2 songs made it over the north sea too iirc.

APD losses are good to see , only allied fast transport type that can carry engineer vehicles so i'm guessing andly isn't pleased by thier loss. not sure how many APD's the allies have in 1945 but it 'looks' like andy has concentrated them for a specific task and you just bashed them badly. will certainly hurt allied engineering plans on mainland india

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/4/2007 12:52:22 AM   
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Yep, A-ha concert was great! Big band in little town
Weather was so bad that it almost got cancelled....fortunately we had warm clothes and cold beer!

The top A-ha hits would include:

Take On Me
Sun Always Shines On Tv
Hunting High And Low
I`ve Been Loosing You
Forever Not Yours
The Living Daylights
Manhattan Skyline
Cry Wolf
You Are The One
Move To Memphis

A best of cd is a must!

No turn from Andy tonight. From Thursday I doubt I'll be able to finish many turns as wedding preparations are escalated...angst!

I thought Andy could airlift an airborne div to Yanam. If he ferries them in APDs it means that he's in a hurry.
I'm doing my best to reinforce all bases - don't want any of them to be captured by paras. Planning to bomb any incursion
to smithers!

Troops from Burma are currently rolling past Calcutta on their way north.
I have to delay the fall of Bombay and Karachi for as long as possible!

Have no idea how many APDs Andy may have, but it can't hurt to reduce the numbers!-)
Flak is intens; 75% of attacking ac are damaged.

The game is pretty mutch hanging in the balance now with Luzon, Iwo, Burma and India currently stalmated.
The Red Steam Roller and B-29 nukes will do their worst to break it

Found this great site: Digger History - http://www.diggerhistory.info/

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/4/2007 7:14:38 AM   
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quote:

It seems to me that we're going to manage to get through the war without suffering all the grievances Japan had in real life!
Andy kind off gave up on the sub war - me thinks he shouldn't have as I've been running almost unescorted convoys from Kwantung and China
for almost a year without being intercepted.


Andy seems not to like using his subs. in our game (Apr 43) he has yet to use any in an offensive manner beyond a single foray into Japanese waters where my ASW pounced him. My last recon of Darwin revealed 25+ subs there but I haven't seen one at sea in a long time.

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/4/2007 8:14:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

quote:

It seems to me that we're going to manage to get through the war without suffering all the grievances Japan had in real life!
Andy kind off gave up on the sub war - me thinks he shouldn't have as I've been running almost unescorted convoys from Kwantung and China
for almost a year without being intercepted.


Andy seems not to like using his subs. in our game (Apr 43) he has yet to use any in an offensive manner beyond a single foray into Japanese waters where my ASW pounced him. My last recon of Darwin revealed 25+ subs there but I haven't seen one at sea in a long time.

Chez


Not even minelaying ? seems like a complete waste of a useful tool. Good news if your japan though

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/5/2007 12:18:42 AM   
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Nope, not seen more than a handful enemy subs lately.
Have sunk _a lot_ of his subs though, maybe he doesn't have so many left

Several reactions outside of Legaspi - but no battles!
Our transports unloaded another huge chunk of supplies

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/04/45

Day Air Combat

Luzon

Heavy bombing attacks against Luzon. B-29s have been re-directed again!

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
P-51D Mustang x 9
B-29 Superfortress x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24
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Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 5
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2
P-51D Mustang x 5
B-29 Superfortress x 163

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 251
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
B-29 Superfortress x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 32

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 34
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Day Air attack on 12th Division, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12
P-40N Warhawk x 6
P-38J Lightning x 9
A-26B Invader x 33

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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We lost more than 100 ac in kamikaze and conventional attacks of Luzon. Can't break
through the Uber CAP and no hits were scored!

Day Air attack on TF, near Vigan at 44,49

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 8
Ki-102a Randy x 30

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 14
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 8 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 30 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Loy
DD Remey
DD Cony
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Day Air attack on TF, near Vigan at 44,49

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 10
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Phoenix, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Our 'bomber trap' worked! We lured the Invaders into Takao were a might CAP awaited.
Not too impressed with results. T-bolts were deadly as alway, even against Shindens.
23 enemy kills for 21 of our own - most of our pilots made it though.

Day Air attack on TF, near Takao at 48,45

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 50
J7W Shinden x 31
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 48
Ki-102a Randy x 18

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 10
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6
A-26B Invader x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
J7W Shinden: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 7 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 8 destroyed
P-47D Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed
A-26B Invader: 12 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 46,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 10
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 13
P-47D Thunderbolt x 4
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 10 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Richmond
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India

Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 69
B7A Grace x 26
Ki-100 Tony x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Difficult to hit the agile APDs - but we scored a couple of good hits today.
Especially impressed with Jills scoring bomb hits from extended range!

Day Air attack on TF at 22,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 15
Ki-67 Peggy x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
B6N Jill: 2 damaged
B7A Grace: 3 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Noa
APD John P. Gray, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Bull
APD Hopping
APD Belknap
APD Bates, Bomb hits 1, on fire
APD Jack C. Robinson
APD Lee Fox
APD Newman
APD Hunter Marshall

Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68493 troops, 860 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1546

Defending force 63359 troops, 607 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 1331

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 123184 troops, 1362 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2947

Defending force 63967 troops, 605 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1219

Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 135818 troops, 1333 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 3432

Defending force 99301 troops, 893 guns, 349 vehicles, Assault Value = 2025

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
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CAP Trap

More of The Elfs air tops!




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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/5/2007 12:35:33 AM   
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A strategic map and the route of a blocade runner just arriving in Osaka/Kobe with 16000 tons of crude oil!
All these small dramas are never displayed in AARs.

It's kinda difficult to draw a clear picture of the Empire since it's split into several zones.
There is however a land route from Karachi - India to Harbin - Kwantung. Sea lanes are cut though and it's very
dangerous and time consuming to move supplies, resources and troops between the Eastern and Western parts of the Empire.







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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/5/2007 5:23:14 AM   
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quote:

Not even minelaying ? seems like a complete waste of a useful tool. Good news if your japan though


Nope, not even minelaying. Here's what he had to say when I asked him about his limited use of sub in our game and in his games with PzB and Pauk (statement is editted as it contained too much data and wouldn't be fair to PzB, Pauk or Andy).

Andy said:

quote:

Hmmm I think we agree to disagree re Subs I have more or less given up on the them in WITP they are just free VP’s for a Jap player who can organize HK Groups and will use 90+ XP Sallys on ASW.

<<<edited>>>my sub arm because unless you are willing to actively move every sub every turn they get sunk and that’s just to much grief.


I can tell you from personal experience in my game with Brad (CHS 159), that allied subs, even in the early months, can be very effective. And they always seem to pick the target that will hurt the most!

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/5/2007 10:03:14 AM   
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I think andy still has bad memories from the earlier versions of WitP with its laser guided depth charges and modern AASW. Most of his games are started before the patches nerfed the asw and i'm not sure if the patches even affected ongoing games.

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/5/2007 12:16:56 PM   
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Yep, Speedy's sub experience against Fabertong shows that one can achievetty pretty good results if both sides agree on using a realistic approach to sub ops.
But PzB's game is an all-out survive or die experience, so indeed Allied subs have hard time feeling safe - especially with their early heavy losses

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/6/2007 12:42:46 AM   
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All true, but I've expended a lot of my crack ASW units. Don't have as many ASW vessels
left either and there would have been plenty of easy pickings if Andy took time to move his
remaining subs around. Guess he's demotivated by earlier experiences as Fish say....

From now on turns may slow down for 10 days or so.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/45

Nigh Air Combat

Patched together my night fighters! Managed to down 4 B-29s.

Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 5
C6N1-S Myrt x 34
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 29

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 11 damaged
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Day Air Combat

Heavy air strikes on Lingayen and Clark Field. Andy is having problems attacking all
my LCUs at once. This also ties up B-29s. We hit back on US troops on Clark.

Luzon

Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 16
B-29 Superfortress x 161

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 238
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 32
B-29 Superfortress x 58

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
445 casualties reported

Airbase hits 38
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 190
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Day Air attack on 34th Division, at 43,51

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 10
P-38J Lightning x 3
P-47D Thunderbolt x 6
A-26B Invader x 43
PB4Y Liberator x 2
B-24J Liberator x 2

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
281 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 2
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Day Air attack on 12th Division, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 3
A-26B Invader x 15

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 12th Division, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 7
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12
P-40N Warhawk x 6
P-38J Lightning x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 12th Division, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
B-29 Superfortress x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Day Air attack on 53rd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
TBM Avenger x 28

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 96th USA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on 96th USA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 96th USA Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 35

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 5th USMC Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 5th USMC Division, at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 43,51

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 13
A-26B Invader x 25
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
226 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
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Day Air attack on 54th Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 43,51

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 11
PB4Y Liberator x 5
B-24J Liberator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
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Day Air attack on 102nd/C Division, at 43,51

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 24

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
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India

Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 67
B7A Grace x 23
Ki-100 Tony x 28
Ki-30 Ann x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 188th USA Glider Regiment, at 34,24

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 188th USA Glider Regiment, at 34,24

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
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Ground Combat

A deliberate attack against Clark is repulsed with very heavy US casualties.
Forts went down unfortunately, but we are almost as strong as the opposition.
The entire crack 5th Div is currently resting in Manila and is the strategic reserve
for Clark.

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68473 troops, 860 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1546

Defending force 63368 troops, 604 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1328

Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 123879 troops, 1383 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2982

Defending force 63283 troops, 597 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1215

Japanese ground losses:
183 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 151423 troops, 1347 guns, 511 vehicles, Assault Value = 3446

Defending force 97791 troops, 861 guns, 349 vehicles, Assault Value = 2004

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 7

Allied max assault: 2909 - adjusted assault: 1605

Japanese max defense: 1740 - adjusted defense: 2314

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)

Japanese ground losses:
2847 casualties reported
Guns lost 69
Vehicles lost 10

Allied ground losses:
5514 casualties reported
Guns lost 154
Vehicles lost 35
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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/12/2007 1:06:18 AM   
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A break now as I'm busy with wedding preps

Went to Preikestolen (Preaching chair) today, Lysebotn - Stavanger.






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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/12/2007 10:35:49 AM   
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That's really a nice place up there 
When is the wedding to take place?

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/12/2007 1:46:19 PM   
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Hey, is that one of Slartibartfast's creations in the backgroud?

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/12/2007 10:40:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

A break now as I'm busy with wedding preps

Went to Preikestolen (Preaching chair) today, Lysebotn - Stavanger.








Its looks like your Kingdom... all the best, Viking!

(really wonderful!)

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/16/2007 12:32:05 AM   
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I can't believe that John is letting marriage interferr with a WitP game and this AAR.

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/17/2007 4:11:12 AM   
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Posted this on the main forum




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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/17/2007 7:00:58 PM   
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I may be the 1000th to tell you this, but still - what a beautiful girl!

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/17/2007 9:34:47 PM   
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:) indeed she is

PzB, there is some new info here on the main forum
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1569436&mpage=1&key=&#1569465

Apparently the A-Bomb may be only available for dropping if the plane takes off from Tinian - and Tinian only

If it happens to be true, that's gonna destroy any hope for Andy to plaster you...

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/17/2007 10:43:23 PM   
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not true, Fish, AFAIK...

PzB, any chance to see you back in the action soon?



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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/17/2007 11:28:56 PM   
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Ok then. PzB, you can stop worrying, you'll get your A-Bomb like you deserve to. pheewwww!  

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/18/2007 1:05:22 AM   
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Thx guys! She is a wonderful girl indeed 
Hopefully she'll get used to my addiction in due time

Will be back in action tomorrow, Rosenborg is playing Champions League against Chelsea and I'm planning to watch the game with
Heinz (Heineken) and WitP


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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/18/2007 3:39:31 AM   
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PzB you have been married for less than 48 hours and still 2 posts on here and Pauks thread . grats .

In all seriousness though i hope you and your wife have a long and happy relationship, if you need a science and english teacher drop me a line Tutoring in norway should be a bonus :)

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/19/2007 1:22:33 AM   
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Th Rob, will do! Also let us know if you're coming to Norway anytime

This has been the most social weeks of my life!
Back to work tomorrow...

Here is the first AAR update in a while:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/06/45

Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Lingayen, at 44,50

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CL Tromp
CL Concord
CL Mobile
CA Alaska
CA St. Paul
CA Tuscaloosa
BB Wisconsin

Japanese ground losses:
511 casualties reported
Guns lost 22

Runway hits 6
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1
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Night Air Combat

Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
C6N1-S Myrt x 32
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 32

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed, 18 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 22 damaged
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Day Air Combat

Luzon

Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26
B-29 Superfortress x 44

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 118
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Day Air attack on 12th Division, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
Kittyhawk III x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2
A-26B Invader x 9
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 12th Division, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
P-51D Mustang x 11
B-29 Superfortress x 115

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1
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Day Air attack on 58th Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 44,50

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
TBM Avenger x 26
Kittyhawk III x 22
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 9
A-26B Invader x 20
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
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India

Have to reign back my rookies. Gained some valuable exp for my new fighter pilots though.

Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 22
D4Y Judy x 62
B7A Grace x 28
Ki-100 Tony x 31
Ki-30 Ann x 12

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 6 destroyed
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 12 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,22

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 21
Ki-67 Peggy x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK James King, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Horace V. White, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Fleming
LSD White Marsh
DE Stadtfeld
LSD Colonial, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Howell Lykes, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DE Doneff
DE Donaldson
DE Rall
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68575 troops, 871 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1544

Defending force 63419 troops, 606 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1330

Allied ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Andy is suffering in Luzon!
His armies will be in tatters after the battle ends - one way or the other.

Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 116527 troops, 1213 guns, 428 vehicles, Assault Value = 3013

Defending force 62257 troops, 564 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1202

Allied max assault: 4890 - adjusted assault: 2827

Japanese max defense: 901 - adjusted defense: 1783

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 8

Japanese ground losses:
1276 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
3322 casualties reported
Guns lost 128
Vehicles lost 18
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Kwantung Defense Map

Here is our troop dispositions before the Red Storm breaks loose.
Any ideas for how to improve it?

As before - the Red steam roller will be so strong that we need to concentrate our forces.
Andy will 110% certainly infest Harbin - so let's meet him here.

A sizeable reserve including 2 panzer divisions will be available for counter attacks into enemy
flanks. No more troops to add to the OOB - but more LBA will move to Kwantung in the weeks to come.
Havy strikes on enemy armour will be key to halting the Reds!




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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/19/2007 6:50:04 PM   
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If he does have those legendary rifle and tank corps, you'd better make the decisive battle happen between changchung and mukden, try to make him overconfidence and ignore synchon his 3 main army group and so defeat his force in detail. If he does be careful and combine his entire force, there is perhaps no good solution. 

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma! - 9/20/2007 11:50:26 PM   
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My advise? Attack first. Remember, when soviets are inactive, they can only perform training missions. No CAP. So if you manage to pull a succesfull sweep over Vladivostok or take out some of his Il-2s on the ground- every Soviet airplane counts. If I were you, i would be worried about possible Soviet injection into North Korea from Vladivostok. Even though fortresses seem to be pre-planned well, Manchuria has lots of empty spaces. If Soviets encircle your fortresses and try to attrition your soldiers out, the only hope is air supply transport. Btw., i think that if you knew what the disposition of the enemy forces is, you could even launch a effective punch into the Soviet Union. A assault behind Vladivostok and elimination one-by-one base after base, with separated rifle corps., could work out with such forces and air support.

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