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ORIGINAL: composer99

The actual air unit stacking limits range from 0-3 depending on the terrain of the hex and the port/city contained therein (ports & cities override the terrain limit).

You can then add +1 air unit for an HQ and +1 for an engineer.
Then you can add a flying boat on top of that as long as the hex in question is a coastal hex.

So, Gibraltar (mountain & major port), if loaded with an HQ & engineer, can have 2 corps/army size land units, 1 division-size land units, 5 planes plus a flying boat plane.

If the flyout only includes land and air units, you will never have more than 9 units.

Might I add that the flyouts look pretty nice.

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ORIGINAL: haromar

Irregardelss of the frequency of such a possible case, the flyout should start withe the 3 land units followed by the AC. These are the most relevant inspected units. In the board game we also tend to put ships besides (not in) the hex so as to get them out of the way. Since with oil, railed factories and ships you will easily supersede the 9 unit/marker limit, I suggest to use a red "UUC" unit as the last 9th icon in such cases indicating the player that he's got to look at the UUC box. 95% of your hexes will do fine with the 9 unit limit. The other 5% hexes which will usually also either include ports, stored oil or railed factories, or bombed factories markers etc. will have a red "UUC" as the 9th symbol.

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ORIGINAL: haromar

you can also have a fyling boat which stack for free on coastal hexes etc. I suggest to start the flyout with land units (where the maximum per hex is always at most 3 units), then ac, where together with the 3 land units you could theoretically exceed the total 9 units limit. then go to either oil/ships/factories etc. if land units and ac exceed the 9 units limit (rare case but for pearl harbour or london not that unusual), the flyout should be in red. 

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ORIGINAL: haromar

Irregardelss of the frequency of such a possible case, the flyout should start withe the 3 land units followed by the AC. These are the most relevant inspected units. In the board game we also tend to put ships besides (not in) the hex so as to get them out of the way. Since with oil, railed factories and ships you will easily supersede the 9 unit/marker limit, I suggest to use a red "UUC" unit as the last 9th icon in such cases indicating the player that he's got to look at the UUC box. 95% of your hexes will do fine with the 9 unit limit. The other 5% hexes which will usually also either include ports, stored oil or railed factories, or bombed factories markers etc. will have a red "UUC" as the 9th symbol.

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ORIGINAL: bredsjomagnus

It would be nice if you could set so that the flyout appears after a few seconds after hovering the hex. That way you don´t get alot of flyout windows that youre not interested in when you move the mousepointer over the map.

Just a slider or something that sets a timer.

/Magnus

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is a screen shot I composed for the Matrix web site (marketing). There are 11 of them total and I have one more to do. Once I have sent Sean the last 4 (he already has 7 of them) I expect he will post them all.

Title: Invasion at Anzio.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is a screen shot I composed for the Matrix web site (marketing). There are 11 of them total and I have one more to do. Once I have sent Sean the last 4 (he already has 7 of them) I expect he will post them all.

Title: Invasion at Anzio.

Cool down Steve, AMPH can't load MECH unit.
Unless you're playing without AMPH, and that AMPH are treated like normal TRS units.
Also, MECH can't invade.
Plus, invading from the 1 box is pretty much a suicide, especially on Anzio where you setup a strong German ARM with a second unit.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is a screen shot I composed for the Matrix web site (marketing). There are 11 of them total and I have one more to do. Once I have sent Sean the last 4 (he already has 7 of them) I expect he will post them all.

Title: Invasion at Anzio.

Cool down Steve, AMPH can't load MECH unit.
Unless you're playing without AMPH, and that AMPH are treated like normal TRS units.
Also, MECH can't invade.
Plus, invading from the 1 box is pretty much a suicide, especially on Anzio where you setup a strong German ARM with a second unit.

Rats, I meant to move the 8-3 but forgot.

Section 1 was because I set up the BB in section 2 and I wanted less than 10 units in the sea box section.

There is a small coastal hex available for the invasion just west of the German armor - The 'A' of Anzio not the 'nzio'.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is page 2. Yeah, the supply status indicators for the Japanese air units are wrong, but the buyers won't know that.

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ORIGINAL: Zorachus99
I might be wrong but shouldn't the japanes 6 1 0 0 ftr be shinden, rather than shiden?

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

My first pass on the summary form for reviewing all of a major power's task forces. There will be a complementary form for show a single task force. this one is simply to provide a player with an overview. Location will either be a port or a sea area section box. A task force has to all be within a single section of a sea area.

Now is the best time for comments and suggestions. There is no code behind this. As you can see there is plenty of room for other stuff. The blank space at the bottom is for a scroll bar so there can be more than 7 task forces in existence. I need to keep the columns fairly wide to show the name and location.

Cargo units do not include carrier air units on carriers.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Names were taken from the counter sheets:
315,54,49,J7W1 Shinden,,1945,0,9,0,0,1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1890,0,1890,0,2,
343,54,49,N1K1-J Shiden (George),,1943,0,6,0,0,1,0,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1890,0,1890,0,2,
344,54,49,N1K1-J Shiden (George),,1943,0,7,0,0,0,0,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1890,0,1890,0,2,
345,54,49,N1K2-J Shiden-kai,,1944,0,7,0,0,3,1,10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1890,0,1890,0,2,
430,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1945,0,8,0,0,0,0,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1946,4,1947,3,2,
431,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1945,0,8,0,0,0,0,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1946,4,1947,3,2,
432,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1946,0,8,1,0,1,0,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1947,4,1948,3,2,
433,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1946,0,9,0,0,0,0,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1948,4,1949,3,2,
434,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1947,0,9,1,0,1,0,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1948,4,1949,3,2,
435,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1947,0,10,0,0,0,0,9,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1949,4,1950,3,2,
436,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1947,0,8,2,0,1,0,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1948,4,1949,3,2,
437,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1948,0,9,2,0,1,0,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1949,4,1950,3,2,
438,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1948,0,8,3,0,2,0,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1949,4,1950,3,2,
439,55,49,J7W2 Shinden,J7W2++Shinden,1948,0,11,0,0,0,0,9,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,2,1950,4,1951,3,2,

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ORIGINAL: Neilster

Steve, are the unit shadows working in the images you've just posted?

Cheers, Neilster

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Here is page 1. [Look familiar Patrice?].

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
There is a small coastal hex available for the invasion just west of the German armor - The 'A' of Anzio not the 'nzio'.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

My first pass on the summary form for reviewing all of a major power's task forces. There will be a complementary form for show a single task force. this one is simply to provide a player with an overview. Location will either be a port or a sea area section box. A task force has to all be within a single section of a sea area.

Now is the best time for comments and suggestions. There is no code behind this. As you can see there is plenty of room for other stuff. The blank space at the bottom is for a scroll bar so there can be more than 7 task forces in existence. I need to keep the columns fairly wide to show the name and location.

Cargo units do not include carrier air units on carriers.

About the name, it would be cool to indicate somewhere a list of historical Task Force Names for each country for the player to pick from that. Forum members could gather that. You could propose these in drop down boxes in the form for creating Task Forces. Obviously, you should not remove the possibility for a player to type his own name.

About the Location, it should be abbreviated (most are extra long), with a tooltips appearing on it when the mouse hover for a second showing the full name. Those abbreviations can be added to one of the datafiles (SEA). I can add them if you want, but we would need to list them and ask the people about those abreviations.

Also, maybe "# of Submarines" is can be deleted, as a Task Force can't have both Submarines and Surface naval units. I mean that if 1 SUB and 1 BB move from the same port to the same sea area section box, this costs 2 naval moves, so there is no need to group them into Task Force, as they won't ever be able to be moved in one single Naval Move.
Quote from RAW
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11.4.1 Definition of ‘naval move’
Each group of units you move is called a task force. A task force can contain any number of surface naval units or any number of SUBs. You can’t have surface naval units and SUBs in the same task force.
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"# of Transports should be "# of Transports / Amphibious" (abbreviated to "# of TRS / AMPH") and both numbers separated by a slash.

"# of Convoy" should be "# of Convoy / Tankers" and both numbers separated by a slash.

"# of cargo units" may be broken down into 3 figures separated by slashes, in the same cell : "# of cargo units that can invade", "# of cargo land units", "# of cargo air units".

You can add a row showing "Max FTR force" which would be the Max air to air rating of the CVP carried by this TF, if all above average (in air to air factor) CVP are assigned to fighter role in case of an air to air combat. I do this on the tabletop game. For instance, I know right now that my May 1943 TF58 has a 8 Air to Air rating. This is a very useful bit of information for you to have, to assess your chances of surviving a fight in a given sea area where you intend to project your power through your carrier force.
For example, if I have 10 carrier planes 1 x 5 air to air CVP, plus 4 x 4 Air to air CVP, plus 5 other with 2 or below factors, I know that I have 6.6 (5+1.6) that is 7 air to air combat rating.
I realise that it is there already, it is the "Air-to-air" row . I did not see it.

What do you intend to write in the "Defense" row ? Average Defense ? Max Defense ? Min Defense ? Average can be interesting, but min or max have poor interest IMO. Average can give a rough idea of the kind of ships in the TF. The lower, the tougher.

All factors sum-up figures should also include the results of low sea box sections penalties (Shore Bombardments) and weather effects (Naval air power and sea box penalties increase).

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Abbreviations of all the ports I want to avoid - too much trouble. Abbreviating the 83 sea areas might not be too hard though. That could be done like I did for the air/naval unit names. I would just add an extra field for the abbreviation and if it is blank, then the full name is used. That would make the task something that can be done off-line by editing the CSV file. You just go through the sea area names and either add a comma (blank field) or a shorter name and a comma.

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Separating TRS from AMPH seems unnecessary, there is unlikely to be more than 2 since the task force will want to return to port where stacking limits on land units will be in effect.

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I could do separate rows for the cargo (there is plenty of room) and then use a better name: e.g., Invasion Force.

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I am thinking of adding flags for all the countries at the bottom so a player can review/switch to each major power's task forces by clicking on a flag.