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RE: 30 September 1943: successful Allied attack in Myit... - 9/4/2007 10:16:35 AM   
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Hi all,

Thanks again for great AAR and all updates!

BTW, did you manage to "catch up" the game date with AAR date yet (you said that your opponent will be unavailable and this will be opportunity to do that)?


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September 1943: monthly report - 9/11/2007 11:52:05 PM   
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Finally my opponent was just offline for one day, and in fact my lack of free time has slowed the game... and this AAR.

The AAR is again one week late... Just to tease you the fourth battle of PJ is actually taking place, with both sides CV exchanging blows and the largest daylight naval battle since the Jutland.

Monthly report September 1943

Japanese score: 61 921 (+ 1 649)
Bases 16 181 (+ 112)
Aircraft 13 117 (+ 957)
Army 21 315 (+ 245)
Ship 10 578 (+ 470) 649 ships sunk (+ 86, mainly PT, but also a CVL confirmed scuttled)
Scuttled ships 12 (- 135)
Strategic 718 (+ 0)

Allied score: 11 506 (+ 984)
Bases 1 419 (+ 53)
Aircraft 6 857 (+ 673)
Army 1 282 (+ 117)
Ship 1 956 (+ 148) 199 ships sunk (+ 23)
Strategic 0

Economic situation (stocks rounded to the thousand):
Supplies : 4 381 000 (bases) + around 255 000 (TFs) = around 4 636 000 (+32 000)
Fuel : 4 454 000 (bases) + around 169 000 (TFs) = around 4 623 000 (-107 000) (KB refuelled...)
Ressource centers : 19 197 (+ 49)
Ressources : 1 087 000 (bases) + 392 000 (TFs) = 1 479 000 (+ 10 000)
Oil centers : 2 791 (+ 0)
Oil: 1 882 000 (bases) + 485 000 (TFs) = 2 367 000 (+ 53 000)
Manpower centers : 818 (+ 0)
Manpower pool : 1 197 000 (+ 97 000)
Heavy industry: 14 247 (+ 33)
Heavy industry pool: 439 000 (+ 24 000)
Naval shipyard: 1402 (+ 0)
Merchant shipyard: 1000 (+ 0)
Repair shipyard: 1043 (+ 23)
Armament industry: 683 (+ 0)
Armament stock: 213 000 (+ 18 000)
Vehicles industry: 113 (+ 0)
Vehicles stock: 19 300 (+ 3 300)
Aircraft engine factories: 1693 (+ 60)
Aircraft frames factories: 1549 (+ 118) (Judy in production)
Aircraft research: 383 (- 21) (Jill, Frances, Frank researched)

Aircraft production:
500 A6M5 Zeke (462), 130 Ki-61 KAIc Tony (123), 90 G4M2 Betty (86), 71 B5N Kate (80), 51 J2M Jack (48), 45 D3A Val (41), 32 Ki-46-III Dinah (31), 30 A6M5c (31), 21 J1N1-S Irving (23), 19 E13A1 Jake (20), 16 Ki-21 Sally (20), 16 Ki-57 Topsy (10), 12 L2D2 Tabby (10), 12 A6M-2 Rufe (14), 7 L3Y Tina (5), 3 E14Y1 Glen (4), 2 Ki-45 KAIb Nick (25, restarted), 0 Ki-43-IIa (159, suspended), 0 Ki-44-IIb Tojo (57, suspended), 0 Ki-45 KAIa Nick (44, suspended), 0 Ki-48 (capacity 40, stopped), 0 H8K Emily (32, suspended), 0 Ki-49 Helen (23, suspended), 0 Ki-51 Sonia (18, stopped), 0 J1N1-R Irving (16, suspended), 0 MC-21 Sally (5, suspended), 0 H6K2-L Mavis (4, suspended)

Total: 1050 aircraft (693 fighters (including 12 Rufes), 106 level bombers, 71 torpedo bombers, 45 divebombers, 35 transport, 32 recon, 23 night-fighters, 23 fighter-bombers, 22 floatplanes)






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1 October 1943: KB airmen vs heavy bombers over PJ - 9/11/2007 11:54:08 PM   
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1 October 1943

Northern Pacific

Once again no Allied aircraft saw the KB sailing close to PJ. But when the usual heavy bomber raids came in the afternoon, 59 KB fighters (46 A6M5 and 13 A6M3a) flew to the island and engaged them.
The first raid was flown by 44 PB4Y, 26 B-24D and 20 B-24J from Attu, and the second by 42 PB4Y and 6 B-24J from Kiska. The Japanese pilots shot down 25 PB4Y, 7 B-24D and 5 B-24J and more bombers turned back under the attack, but 68 reached the target. AA fire shot down one more PB4Y and a B-24D, and a last PB4Y was lost operationally, but Japan also suffered losses: on the ground an Oscar II and a Jill were destroyed, 77 men and 2 guns were disabled and PJ reported 3 hits on the airbase and 49 on the runways. The air losses were more serious: 3 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were shot down in flames by the bomber gunners, 5 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were seriously damaged during the battle and ditched or were jettisoned after landing, and 6 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were lost in accidents.

The detailed evening report of the KB showed that five units were engaged:
AII-1 scored 2 kills and lost 3 A6M3a and 3 pilots
BI-1 scored 8 kills and lost 2 A6M5 and 2 pilots
F1/261 scored 12 kills and lost 8 A6M5 and 5 pilots (at least one was only WIA)
F1/653 scored 3 kills and lost 3 A6M5 and 3 pilots
F2/653 scored 6 kills and lost 1 A6M5 and its pilot
BI-1 was the only experienced unit. F1/261 was a newly formed unit, and the other were training units that boarded KB for this operation (AII-1 was decimated during Kuriles battles some time ago and was reformed with rookie pilots).

A dozen Oscar II of 204 Sentai flying from PJ intercepted the C-47s flying from Aleutians to OJ and shot down six for one operational loss. Two more C-47 were lost operationally.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 11 men, Japanese ones 565 men and 8 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 204 059 men (+139), 2060 guns (+22) and 425 vehicles (+0) for 4013 AV (+32) against 99 404 men (+286), 810 guns (-2) and 7 tankettes for 1753 AV (+7).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 90/0/42 (airbase/runway/port), 423 engineers (+1), 37 029 supplies (-654) and 200 mines. The last Rufe of the island was finally repaired and flew to Shikka where the Chutai received replacement AC for its 5 pilots. The Oscar II will remain there and continue to fly LRCAP over OJ.

OJ showed damage 2/55 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 15 100 men (+160), 41 guns (-6) and 45 vehicles (-1).

The KB had not decimated Allied heavy bombers as much as what was planned. 40 Allied heavy were lost today but also 19 Japanese fighters with their (mostly rookie) pilots. Also the (unplanned) LRCAP tired the involved pilots. So the KB will sail SW close to Etoforu Jima, and be joined here by the Katsuragi TF, the BB TF and the replenishment TF that met at Etoforu today and refuelled here. We will also see if the Allied CV will react or not. The KB will detach two CA and 4 CL escorted by 7 DD to bombard OJ during the night.

South of Alaska the I-37 found again in the morning 600 miles WSW of the Canadian port of Prince Rupert the convoy seen the day before but was chased away by two DE. Both Japanese submarines in the area will continue to follow this convoy.

Finally Japanese LBA had not much to do in the area and given the crisis in the south several units were sent there: 20 A6M3a and 25 G4M2 left Hokkaido for Palai but one of each type disappeared on the way.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 6 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 12 P-38G and 8 B-24D and 2 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 16 P-38G and 10 P-38J bombed Rabaul, did 33 casualties, and scored 16 hits on the runways. And 49 B-25J from Lae attacked again Wewak, did 21 casualties, and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 6 on supplies and 18 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Rabaul. On the Japanese side a Alf floatplane flying patrol was shot down by an Allied fighter.

Rabaul reported damage of 75/28/28 (airbase/runway/port) and still zero supplies for 4831 (-9) required, Kavieng had repaired damage and was building again fortifications (5, 95%) and Wewak reported damage 2/0/0. No evacuation flight was flown today from Ponape again, probably due to the state of the airfield in Rabaul.

Tanaka’s ships continued to slowly sail north. The CL Tatsuta now had FLT damage at 84.

Tomorrow the big barge convoy sent from Truk to Rabaul will be off Kavieng and all Zero based in Truk will LRCAP this base.

South of Gili Gili the Naka hadn’t find any target during the night and retreated to the SE at dawn without being detected. In the evening the SS I-176 reported that another Allied convoy (4 AP were seen) was sailing south. Attacking a convoy returning empty was less interesting than a laden one going northwards but anyway it was decided to go for this one. The escort DD was close to missing fuel and was sent to Lunga for refuel. The Naka will attack alone the convoy that the I-176 was ordered to follow.

As said above air reinforcement arrived in Palau from Hokkaido. 9 Dinah III arrived in Palau too from Nagasaki, and 9 other in Truk.

Timor-DEI-Australia

Allied troops continued to land on Kai Island during the night and the day (82 amphibious casualties) under LRCAP by 24 Kittyhawk III (one operational loss, but they shot down a Jake on naval search from Amboina) and took the empty island in the evening. Before committing suicide, the local Japanese coastwatcher reported that these troops were the 37th US Division and the 73rd Base Force, and had 16 913 men, 179 guns and 10 vehicles.

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 21 B-25C from Derby that did 21 casualties, disabled a gun and scored 2 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 14 on the runways, Dili was the target of 44 B-17E and 44 B-24D escorted by 7 P-40N from Darwin that did 32 casualties and scored 4 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 36 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 21 B-24J and 14 B-25C from Darwin and reported 56 casualties and 6 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 23 on the runways. The only Allied loss was a Catalina I shot down by AA fire during a recon flight to Lautem.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 15% (+6%)), Koepang was damaged 75/21/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 69/83/0, Lautem 37/24/38, other bases undamaged.

34 A6M3 arrived in Kendari from Burma and 9 Dinah III from Japan to reinforce this area. A floatplane arrived in Amboina to show an aircraft presence here. Other will reach Menado and Sorong tomorrow.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 270 sorties today. 66 Liberator VI and 37 B-25C from Dacca escorted by 35 P-40N attacked Lashio (87 casualties, a disabled gun, 14 hits on the airbase, 5 on supplies and 120 on the runways) while 15 B-25J from Ledo escorted by 44 P-40E attacked Myitkyina (1 hit on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 7 on the runways). 14 P-40N flew LRCAP over Myitkyina and 51 Hurricane II from Imphal escorted by 8 Spitfire Vb attacked the 46th Div in Katha that lost 43 men and 1 guns. A P-40N was lost operationally.

All was perfectly quiet at Myitkyina as both sides licked wounds of yesterday’s attack and so no report was available of the respective strength of the opponents. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (no hit), where 1081 Japanese AV (-164 with the move eastwards of a regiment of the 30th Div) faced 1722 Allied (-1).

The evening report showed damage of 63/79 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still zero remaining supplies for needs of 9 925 (-2490). Mandalay was damaged at 65/79 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/98.

A big convoy was unloading 98k supplies in Rangoon.

China

Two training raids hit the 50th Chinese Corps NW of Changsha with 32 Tojo from Changsha escorted by 10 Oscar and 100 Oscar II, 29 Val and 24 Kate from Wuhan escorted by 30 Oscar and hit 64 men while a Val was lost operationally.

Japan

The first four production Judy were produced today… but also the first production Jill as the release date of the latter was also advanced one month too for this model, and so allowed the production to start immediately.

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RE: September 1943: monthly report - 9/11/2007 11:58:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

Finally my opponent was just offline for one day, and in fact my lack of free time has slowed the game... and this AAR.

The AAR is again one week late... Just to tease you the fourth battle of PJ is actually taking place, with both sides CV exchanging blows and the largest daylight naval battle since the Jutland.



Bloody Hell! Nice to see you "online" again!

Give us some info of these Jutland and CV battle

Please, please,pretty please with cherry on top

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RE: 1 October 1943: KB airmen vs heavy bombers over PJ - 9/12/2007 12:04:28 AM   
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The air losses were more serious: 3 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were shot down in flames by the bomber gunners, 5 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were seriously damaged during the battle and ditched or were jettisoned after landing, and 6 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were lost in accidents.


Is there a typo or something Admiral?
I don't understand where the detailed losses are coming from thereafter...?

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RE: September 1943: monthly report - 9/12/2007 2:43:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

Aircraft research: 3834 (- 21) (Jill, Frances, Frank researched)


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Does this mean 3823 production points assigned to research?

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2 October 1943: CL Naka strikes convoy lines south of G... - 9/12/2007 9:17:55 AM   
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Zond: it was a teaser... you will now have to wait for the full report

Fishbed: the detailled losses are calculated with the following method. I had the number of fighters per type of the KB before and after the battle and 14 A6M5 and 3 A6M3a were missing.
In the combat report & animation, only 3 A6M5 and 1 A6M3a were shot down but many other were damaged, and the A2A losses shown after the turn showed 8 A6M5 and 2 A6M3a lost, so the difference is assumed to have crashed/dkitched after the battle or being damaged beyond repair, and then the other missing AC were lost operationally.

06 Maestro: it was a typo, I have 383 research centers, and not 3834 . And I am quite sure that aircraft research didn't use any HI.

2 October 1943

Northern Pacific

During the night six Japanese cruisers (2 CA and 4 CL) bombarded OJ, but were repulsed by CD defences and only hit 22 men.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 21 men and 2 guns, Japanese ones 96 men and 3 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 204 769 men (+710), 2093 guns (+33) and 422 vehicles (-3) for 4037 AV (+24) against 99 227 men (-177), 809 guns (-1) and 7 tankettes for 1760 AV (+7).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 33/0/42 (airbase/runway/port), 423 engineers (+1), 36 509 supplies (-520) and 200 mines. The last Dinah and the last Val of the island were repaired and flew to Toyohara . Only the Oscar II will remain there and continue to fly LRCAP over OJ.

OJ showed damage 0/16 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 14 560 men (-540), 46 guns (+5) and 32 vehicles (-13).

The ML squadron arrived in Toyohara from Shikka with a MLE and 6 ML and started to lay mines here (currently 500 mines off this base).

The Allied CV fleet remained off Kiska, and maybe the KB went undetected. It will sail NE of Shimushiri Jima tomorrow and chase American submarines (6 seen in this area today). The next night OJ will be bombarded by BB and cruiser in force. The cruiser TF that unsuccessfully bombarded OJ last night refuelled in Etorofu and will join the fleet tomorrow. OJ will also be bombed tomorrow by Toyohara Betties.

In Toyohara the 48th Div was unloading and the 18th Div convoy will arrive in two days. These troops will finish to unload and then reboard with the troops already there (2nd and 116th Div, 1st Para Rgt (that will be used as infantry), 21st and 25th Eng Rgt) the 168 transport ships gathered for the OJ operation. The three Yokosuka para SNLF of the Navy were also there and will be air dropped over the Allied base. Landing should take place on the 10 of October.

The AK Cape Isabel, torpedoed on 30 August off PJ by KB airmen, was today declared damaged beyond repair by Allied engineers in Attu port (sank in game).

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

The CL Naka had more luck this night and found targets 300 miles SSW of Gili Gili. She met the AK Mercury sailing alone and sank her with 3 torpedoes and 10 shells fired at 4000-5000 yards. She had surprised the Allied crew and no message was sent on the radio, but nearby cruised a SC group that saw the battle and thought a submarine was attacking the isolated AK. When they arrived they surprised the Japanese cruiser stooped to pick prisoners but they were no match against her and rather to attack tried to flee. The Japanese cruiser enjoyed a field day with clear moonlight and sank 7 of the 8 SC before they could escape. The Naka then sailed at full speed towards Noumea and wasn’t found by Allied aircraft during the day.

In the afternoon 8 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 13 P-38G and 17 B-24D, 10 B-25C and 7 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 17 P-38G and 2 P-38J bombed Rabaul, did 23 casualties, and scored 2 hits on the airbase and 39 on the runways. 38 B-25J from Lae attacked Wewak, did 8 casualties, and scored 6 hits on the airbase, 5 on supplies and 28 on the runways. A B-25J was shot down by AA fire over Wewak. On the Japanese side a Dinah III flying patrol was shot down by an Allied fighter, and an A6M3a was lost operationally during the useless LRCAP of Kavieng, but its pilot was rescued unhurt.

Rabaul reported damage of 77/49/28 (airbase/runway/port) and still zero supplies for 4826 (-5) required, Kavieng had repaired damage and was building again fortifications (6, 0%, +5%) and Wewak reported damage 8/0/0.

No evacuation flight was flown today from Ponape again, probably due to the state of the airfield in Rabaul. To test if it will work 7 Mavis were ordered to carry supply to Rabaul. The barge convoy that was today off Kavieng will sail to Rabaul and unload here. The Zero that covered it will rest tomorrow.

More south the Naka was now lacking fuel and will return to Noumea.

In the evening the crippled CL Tatsuta sank 180 miles south of Palau.

Timor-DEI-Australia

In the afternoon, there was only one Allied raid: Koepang was attacked by 15 B-25C from Derby that scored 8 hits on the runways.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 20% (+6%)), Koepang was damaged 72/0/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 69/73/0, Lautem 37/17/38, other bases undamaged. A big AK was unloading supplies off Koepang.

108 Allied aircraft (91 fighters and 17 patrol) were reported on Kai Island, with two units (23 180 men, 238 guns and 17 vehicles) and 10+ AK were unloading off the base.

Adm Hashimoto left Palau with the CA Furutaka and 10 DD to attack this base.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 666 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 15 B-25J from Ledo and 40 escorts on the airfield (15 casualties, 1 hit on the airbase and 9 on the runways), 13 LRCAP sorties (by P-47), 239 fighter-bombers (Vengeance included, but also Thunderbolt II and P-47C used in this role now), 261 bombers and 98 escorts from Imphal, Jorhat, Ledo, Kohima and Dacca against 3 divisions of the garrison (337 men and 7 guns hit). A B-25J was shot down by AA fire and a P-40N and a Blenheim IV were lost in accidents.

On the ground there was again no activity at Myitkyina as both sides licked wounds. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (62 Allied men hit), where 1080 Japanese AV (-1) faced 1724 Allied (+2).

The evening report showed damage of 64/74 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town arrived 318 supplies (+318) for needs of 10 466 (+541). These supplies were probably brought in by the regiment of the 30th Div that arrived today. Mandalay was damaged at 65/65 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/97.

China

190 training and 45 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan and Changsha against Chinese troops NW of this latter base, and hit 27 men for one operational loss (an Oscar II).

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RE: 2 October 1943: CL Naka strikes convoy lines south ... - 9/12/2007 10:38:03 AM   
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Sneaky Naka - nice show she did put here :)

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RE: September 1943: monthly report - 9/12/2007 3:57:09 PM   
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HI all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

Just to tease you the fourth battle of PJ is actually taking place, with both sides CV exchanging blows and the largest daylight naval battle since the Jutland.


Welcome back!


May the Gods be with Japan in this difficult time and best of luck in the battle - the world will again tremble waiting for reports from cold Pacific north...

BANZAI!!!


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3 October 1943: another quiet day - 9/13/2007 7:15:20 PM   
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3 October 1943

Northern Pacific

52 G4M2 and 15 G4M1 from Toyohara bombed OJ, did 184 casualties, disabled 2 vehicles, and scored 2 hits on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 33 on the runways. A G4M1 was lost operationally.

KB airmen flying extensive naval patrol west of the Kuriles damaged in the afternoon two American submarines, the Dace 120 miles north of Shimushuri Jima and the Corvina NW of Ketoi Jima.

On the other side of the Kuriles, the Japanese submarine I-41 was also bombed and damaged in the afternoon by a PB4Y 360 miles WSW of Kiska. The bomber called 5 nearby SC that chased the submarine and scored one more hit and 3 near-misses on her. With damage 44/46/0 the SS I-41 will return to Etorofu Jima. She reported being engaged by the escort of a convoy (5 ships, including 2 AP) but probably was wrong…

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 125 men and 2 guns, Japanese ones 371 men and 6 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 205 235 men (+466), 2112 guns (+19) and 422 vehicles (+0) for 4059 AV (+22) against 99 642 men (+415), 809 guns (+0) and 7 tankettes for 1771 AV (+11).

The evening report of PJ showed no more damage and 423 engineers building fortifications (level 4, 55%), 36 075 supplies (-434) and 192 mines.

OJ showed damage 5/4 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 14 200 men (-360), 39 guns (-7) and 37 vehicles (+5).

The Allied CV fleet remained off Kiska (where recon reported a CAP of 156 F6F among other types). Tonight OJ will be bombarded by two bombardment TF (with a total of 5 BB, 5 CA and 4 CL). These ships will then sail to Etorofu Jima. The KB will remain in the area to continue to chase submarines and cover the retreat, and then will sail to Toyohara to escort the troop convoys.

Both submarines patrolling south of Alaska were recalled to PH for quick repairs and will sail back to Japan.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

During the day the barge convoy sent from Truk via Kavieng reached Rabaul and was attacked by 12 Dutch Beaufighter Mk 21 from Kiriwima (that sank two barges) and a patrolling B-25C (that sank one). It will unload tonight 700 supplies and then sail to Green Island.

In the afternoon 7 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 12 P-38G and 17 B-24D, 17 B-25C and 6 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 18 P-38G and 2 P-38J bombed Rabaul, did 47 casualties, and scored 1 hit on the airbase and 36 on the runways. 38 B-25J from Lae attacked Wewak and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 3 on supplies and 4 on the runways. A B-25J was shot down by AA fire over Wewak and a B-25C suffered the same fate over Rabaul. On the Japanese side two Dinah III flying recon and patrol were shot down by an Allied fighter, but one crew was rescued.

420 miles south of Gili Gili, the Japanese submarine I-31 was chased by 6 SC and depth charged by four of them. They scored only seven near-misses but the submarine had damage 17/7/0 and will sail SE to evade Allied ships and repair and will then remain in the area to refuel a DD coming from Lunga (see below).

Rabaul reported damage of 78/57/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 7 supplies (+7) for 4813 (-13) required, Kavieng had repaired damage and was building again fortifications (6, 4%, +4%) and Wewak had also repaired damage and was building again fortifications (5, 71%).

The 7 Mavis ordered to carry supply from Ponape to Rabaul flew today, while evacuation flights didn’t work for one week. I am missing something here.

The DD Natsugumo that was with the Naka some days ago refueled in Lunga and sailed SW to chase SC south of Gili Gili.

More north the first Japanese reinforcement arrived, as a reinforced SNLF landed in Woelai.

The last damaged ships of Tanaka TF arrived in Palau. A DD and a CL had sunk so far, two DD have FLT 61 and 63 and the CL Tenryu 29, another CL and 2 DD were damaged but have FLT 0. Palau port (size 6, 2 AR, 1 Fleet HQ) should be able to save the damaged ships.

Allied engineers expanded Lae airfield to size 7.

Timor-DEI-Australia

There was no Allied air raid today. Japanese recon flew over Kai Island (reporting 70-75 fighters on CAP) and Tenimbar (11 Kittyhawk III on CAP) and lost a Dinah III shot down by an Allied fighter

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 26% (+6%)), Koepang was damaged 38/0/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 69/61/0, Lautem 37/9/38, other bases undamaged. A big AK was still unloading supplies off Koepang.

111 Allied aircraft (79 fighters and 32 patrol) were reported on Kai Island. 10+ AK were still unloading off the base, but a surface TF was also seen here, with at least 4 “CA”. Tomorrow will be a thunderstorm day and Hashimoto will arrive in position NE of Sorong and be able to attack next evening.

SRA

The Gold Convoy united off Legaspi with the tankers sailing from Brunei and sailed for Japan with a total of 485k oil and 378k resources, under escort by three ASW TF added to its close escort.

SE of Aparri the submarine USS Sawfish was bombed and damaged by a Ki-21 flying patrol from Luzon.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 552 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 16 LRCAP sorties (by P-40N and P-47), 125 fighter-bombers (with the first use of a P-35A group (!!!) from Dimapur), 266 bombers and 105 escorts from Imphal, Jorhat, Dacca and Dimapur against 2 divisions and a regiment (the fresh one of 30th Div) of the garrison (594 men, 2 tanks and 13 guns hit). Three P-40N, two Liberator VI, two P-47C, a B-17E, a Beaufighter Mk 21 and a Beaufighter VIC were lost in accidents.

On the ground there was again no activity at Myitkyina as both sides licked wounds. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (49 Allied men and 1 gun hit), where 1560 Japanese AV (+480 with the arrival from 104th Div from the east) faced 1721 Allied (-3). The 104th Div arrived in Katha, took full supplies and was ordered to march to Myitkyina.

The evening report showed damage of 64/59 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 318 supplies (+0) for needs of 10 594 (+128). Mandalay was damaged at 65/50 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/86.

The local air commander would have liked to provide LRCAP over Myitkyina but the airfields of Lashio and Mandalay were too badly damaged to do that. He will rather try to attack Allied airfields: as many Allied fighters flew over Myitkyina CAP over their own bases was maybe weak. Allied bases will be reconned tomorrow.

Japanese recon reported 4 Allied units east of Dacca. They will try to identify them tomorrow. They may advance towards Akyab from here or move to Central Burma via Kohima.

China

187 training and 38 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan and Changsha against Chinese troops NW of this latter base, and hit 51 men for three operational losses (two Oscar II and a Kate).

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RE: 3 October 1943: another quiet day - 9/17/2007 11:47:12 PM   
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Admiral, you have no idea how much we're waiting for news from your Mother Of All Battles

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RE: 3 October 1943: another quiet day - 9/18/2007 11:01:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Admiral, you have no idea how much we're waiting for news from your Mother Of All Battles


Patience is a virtue...


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RE: 3 October 1943: another quiet day - 9/22/2007 9:38:06 PM   
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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Admiral, you have no idea how much we're waiting for news from your Mother Of All Battles


Patience is a virtue...


With days passing by and still silence from Imperial High Command the fear started to grow inside, until now, proud and fearless Japanese citizens (including "friends" from "Co-Prosperity Sphere)...


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4 October 1943: still before the big battle - 9/23/2007 5:12:30 PM   
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Well, I was very busy but fan's fear are not totally unrealistic...

4 October 1943

Northern Pacific

During the night two BB TF attacked OJ. On the way in the SS Escolar tried to attack one 60 miles west of the base but was seen and chased by 7 DD. The Maikaze and the Samidare depth charged her and scored one hit and two near-misses. Both Japanese TFs then pounded the base (with a total of 5 BB, 5 CA and 4 CL), disabled 371 men, 6 guns and 4 vehicles, and scored 7 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies, 43 on the runway, 8 on the port and 29 on port supplies. In the afternoon the submarine Escolar was hit again, this time by a Val from the KB.

One of the several PBM Mariner flying recon to PJ (as each day before the start of the battle) was shot down by AA fire.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 12 men, Japanese ones 182 men, 1 tank and 3 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 206 008 men (+773), 2117 guns (+5) and 423 vehicles (+1) for 4088 AV (+29) against 99 832 men (+190), 809 guns (+0) and 7 tankettes for 1773 AV (+2).

The evening report of PJ showed no more damage and 423 engineers building fortifications (level 4, 75% (+20%)), 34 829 supplies (-1196) and 189 mines. The Oscar II will continue to fly LRCAP over OJ, while 8 Emily arrived to fly naval search.

OJ showed damage 35/20 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 15 540 men (+1340), 43 guns (+4) and 24 vehicles (-13). Toyohara bombers will attack it tomorrow.

The KB will sail NW to Shikka for refuelling and receiving replacement aircraft, while both bombardment TF will sail to Toyohara.

The last troop convoy arrived in Toyohara, bringing the 18th Div. It will unload and then all troops will be loaded in “invasion mode” (ie in one turn) and then the fleet will sail to OJ.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 3 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 11 P-38G bombed Rabaul and scored 1 hit on the airbase and 1 on the runways. 33 B-25J from Lae attacked Wewak, did 11 casualties and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 3 on supplies and 17 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Rabaul. On the Japanese side a Dinah III flying recon to Lae was shot down by AA fire and a Mavis transport was lost operationally while carrying supplies to Rabaul. A patrolling B-25C also sank a barge west of Buka.

Rabaul reported damage of 79/18/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 615 supplies (+608, thanks to the barge convoy that unloaded here) for 4530 (-283) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 9%, +5%) and Wewak had also repaired damage and was building again fortifications (5, 71%, +0%).

18 A6M3a arrived in Hollandia from Palau (another was lost during the flight with its pilot) and will fly local CAP and LRCAP over Wewak in some days.

With the airfield of Rabaul almost repaired all transport aircraft were again ordered to fly evacuation flights.

The DD Natsugumo was seen today 300 miles south of Munda and will not raid the convoy lanes as planned but will sail south to join the Naka in Noumea.

The barge convoy will now sail back to Truk. A submarine left this base to refuel them on the way.

Allied engineers expanded the airfield of Saidor to size 2, and the port of Kiriwima to size 4.

Timor-DEI-Australia

In the afternoon, there was only one Allied raid: Koepang was attacked by 24 B-25C from Derby that scored 1 hit on the airbase and 20 on the runways, and disabled 12 men and 2 guns. AA fire shot down one of the bombers, and also a PBY Catalina flying recon over Amboina.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 32% (+6%)), Koepang was damaged 39/4/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 69/49/0, Lautem 37/1/38, other bases undamaged. A big AK was still unloading supplies off Koepang.

119 Allied aircraft (111 fighters and 8 patrol) were reported on Kai Island. 10+ AK were still unloading off the base, and the surface TF was also still here, with at least 8 ships, 5 “CA” and 1 DD seen today.

Hashimoto was still not in position NE of Sorong and the attack was cancelled. Tomorrow will be a clear weather day and the Allied covering TF was probably too strong for the Japanese TF. These ships were ordered to sail to Kendari, where max CAP will be flown, as they may draw Allied heavy bombers.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 583 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 16 LRCAP sorties (by P-40E), 182 fighter-bombers, 264 bombers and 121 escorts from Imphal, Jorhat, Kohima, Dacca and Dimapur against 2 divisions and a regiment of the garrison (190 men and 11 guns hit). Three Liberator VI, two Beaufighter VIC, a P-40N and a Thunderbolt II were lost in accidents.

On the ground there was again no activity at Myitkyina as both sides licked wounds. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (7 Allied men hit), where 1081 Japanese AV (-479 with the departure from 104th Div eastwards) faced 1719 Allied (-2).

The evening report showed damage of 64/40 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 318 supplies (+0) for needs of 10 281 (-313). Mandalay was damaged at 65/35 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/74.

Japanese recon flew over 4 Allied units east of Dacca and identified them as engineer troops. They also flew over Allied airfield and reported that only 15-20 fighters defended Imphal and Kohima, but they were enough to shot down a Dinah II over the latter.

The 104th Div will reach Myitkyina tomorrow and should strengthen enough the city to repulse the next Allied attack. South of the city the Japanese 28th Army (3rd Tk Div, 23rd Bde, two Tk Rgt) was still marching east in the jungle to open a trail from Lashio to the besieged city so supplies may reach it, but they will be SE of the city in 3 weeks, and then might need to march and attack again more SE towards Yunan. A NLF was sent from Bangkok (it was one of the two that was almost annihilated in the jungle at the Indian border) and will hold the trail east of Lashio.

The local air commander decided to prepare operations in Central Burma. Both Tony units in Rangoon were grounded for rest, while the three bomber groups in reserve in Bangkok moved forward to Rahaeng, Moulmein and Rangoon to be closer from the frontline. In Central Burma the 2 small IJA BF in Lashio were ordered to march to Mandalay. The 4th Aviation Rgt will remain in Lashio, while 3 IJA BF will service Mandalay AF.

China

192 training and 41 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan and Changsha against Chinese troops NW of this latter base, and hit 7 men for one operational loss (an Oscar II).

A Southern Army IJA BF (that was detached to Kweilin since its fall to help the China Expeditionary Army) boarded a small convoy in Hong Kong and will sail to Wasile, SW of Morotai.

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RE: 4 October 1943: still before the big battle - 9/23/2007 6:55:27 PM   
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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

Well, I was very busy


We know... sorry for pulling your chain...


quote:


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Please do not frighten us... you are the Japanese player's light in the tunnel!


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5 October 1943: first P-38J sweep won by 29 to 14 - 9/24/2007 8:16:51 PM   
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quote:

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Please do not frighten us... you are the Japanese player's light in the tunnel!



Well something is burning farther in the tunnel, but it may be the sun... or not... The future days will tell...

5 October 1943

Northern Pacific

Two AP convoys were seen today 240 miles west of Attu, followed by an AO TF 60 miles more east. Allied CV were not seen but were also here very probably as one H8K Emily was shot down by fighters in the area while a F6F Hellcat was lost operationally on the Allied side.

Anyway there was not much activity. In the morning the SS USS Rasher tried to chase barges NW of Ketoi Jima but was unable to follow them in shallow waters. Japanese AA fire shot down a PBM Mariner over PJ. In the afternoon 27 B-24J and 27 B-24D from Attu bombed PJ airfield, disabled 216 men and 7 guns and scored 12 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 40 on the runways.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 43 men, Japanese ones 246 men and 7 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 206 622 men (+614), 2140 guns (+23) and 422 vehicles (-1) for 4114 AV (+26) against 99 622 men (-210), 804 guns (-5) and 7 tankettes for 1772 AV (-1).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 8/0/0 (airbase/runway/port), 423 engineers, 33 626 supplies (-1203) and 185 mines. OJ showed damage 50/33 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 14 580 men (-960), 41 guns (-2) and 44 vehicles (+20).

The KB refuelled this evening in Shikka and loaded replacement aircraft, bringing its strength to 419 fighters, 158 dive bombers and 134 torpedo bombers. In Toyohara the BB TF refuelled while the convoy of the 18th Div will finish to unload tomorrow. Then troop convoys will wait to see how the battle will evolve before sailing.

Both CV and BB TF sailed to sea and will meet tomorrow 240 miles west of OJ. All warships in the area sailed with these fleets: 11 CV, 4 CVL, 6 BB (four having between 11 and 15 SYS), 9 CA, 8 CL, 62 DD and 8 AO. And as said above 711 aircraft.

The Oscar II left PJ for Shikka, while 8 floatplanes arrived from Etoforu Jima to fly short range naval search. An Oscar II Chutai will fly LRCAP over OJ from Shikka just to keep Allied transport aircraft on the ground.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 4 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 12 P-38G and 14 B-24D, 10 B-25C and 9 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 21 P-38G and 4 P-38J bombed Rabaul, did 39 casualties, disabled a gun, and scored 2 hits on the airbase and 39 on the runways. 27 B-25J from Lae attacked Wewak and scored 4 hits on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 10 on the runways. A B-25J was shot down by AA fire over Wewak and another was lost operationally. On the Japanese side an Emily flying naval search in the area was shot down by an Allied fighter.

Rabaul reported damage of 83/22/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 615 supplies (+0) for 4749 (+219) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 13%, +4%) and Wewak had also repaired damage and was building again fortifications (5, 71%, +0%), but had no only 20 remaining supplies. A destroyer was sent from Palau to bring supplies to this base.

At least transport aircraft flying from Ponape evacuated men from Rabaul, picking up today 43 squads of the 9th Fleet HQ.

Allied engineers expanded the airfield of Woodlark Island to size 2.

Timor-DEI-Australia

In the morning took place something that will probably become a regular occurrence in the next months: the first long-range sweep flown by P-38J. A full squadron (24 fighters) of 318th FG took off from Kai Island and flew to Kendari where CAP was flown by 141 Japanese fighters (46 Ki-44, 44 Oscar II, 30 A6M3, 17 Nick and 4 A6M3a). The American pilots won the battle and shot down 29 of their opponents (11 Oscar II, 8 Nick, 5 A6M3, 3 Ki-44, 2 A6M3a) but suffered 60% losses (14 P-38J were shot down).

The detail action report showed the following:
F2/64 Chutai scored no kill and lost 4 Oscar II and 3 pilots.
11 Sentai scored no kill and lost 2 Oscar II and a pilot wounded.
77 Sentai scored no kill and lost 5 Oscar II and 3 pilots.
70 Sentai scored 1 kill and lost 1 Ki-44 but no pilot.
47 Sentai scored 6 kills and suffered no loss.
29 Sentai scored 2 kills and lost 2 Ki-44 and one pilot.
16 Sentai scored no kill and lost 8 Ki-45 and 5 pilots
F4/Chitose scored no kill and lost 2 A6M3a and one pilot
F1/6th scored 2 kills and lost 2 A6M3 and one pilot
F1/281st scored 3 kills and lost 3 A6M3 and 3 pilots (at least two WIA)
Two IJNAF and four USAAF aces scored during this battle. On the Japanese side, both were of F1/6th and scored kills 6 and 8 respectively. The second was then shot down but bailed out unhurt. On the American side, a pilot scored his 11th kill, another scored 6 kills (number 5 to 10), the commander scored two (kills 8 and 9) and the last one scored one to reach acedom.

In the afternoon, there was again only one Allied raid: Koepang was attacked by 18 B-25C from Derby that scored 1 hit on the airbase and 21 on the runways, and did 27 casualties. AA fire shot down a PBY Catalina flying recon over this base.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 37% (+5%)), Koepang was damaged 40/4/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 69/37/0, Lautem 38/30/38, other bases undamaged. A big AK was still unloading supplies off Koepang, another off Maumere.

96 Allied aircraft (90 fighters and 6 patrol) were reported on Kai Island, where CAP was flown by 41 Kittyhawk III and 17 P-40N. 10+ AK were still unloading off the base, and the surface TF was also still here, with at least 8 ships, 5 “CA” and 1 DD seen today.

After the sweep done today, the most vulnerable fighters in Kendari were sent away. The Nick went to Maumere and will LRCAP Koepang tomorrow, and an Oscar Sentai will also fly to Koepang and defend it.
Hashimoto TF will reach Kendari tomorrow.

SRA

A convoy will load 14k resources in Toboali to bring them to Singapore. Another will carry 7k fuel from Palembang to Toboali.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 654 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 11 B-25J and 49 escorts from Ledo and Kohima on the airfield (57 casualties, 1 disabled gun, 21 hits on the runways), 12 LRCAP sorties (by P-40E), 238 fighter-bombers, 252 bombers and 92 escorts from Imphal, Jorhat, Ledo, Kohima, Dimapur and Dacca against 3 divisions of the garrison (733 men and 4 guns hit). A P-40N, a P-40E and a Beaufighter Mk 21 were lost in accidents.

On the ground there was again no activity at Myitkyina as both sides licked wounds. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (65 Allied men and 1 gun hit), where 1085 Japanese AV (+4) faced 1726 Allied (+7).

The evening report showed damage of 64/24 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 375 supplies (+57, probably extra supplies brought by the 104th Div that arrived today) for needs of 11 572 (+1291). Mandalay was damaged at 65/20 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/63.

Japanese recon continued to follow the engineer troops that were first seen east of Dacca and flew today to Dimapur and reported no CAP. Interesting as this base was one from which several Allied units flew to Myitkyina. This base will be bombed to blast as much as possible of these aircraft on the ground. To do this two bomber units training in Clark Field (36 Ki-21 and 27 Betty) flew to Rangoon. Recon had also shown that CAP over Imphal was flown mainly by Hurricane. Both Tony units from Rangoon will fly a sweep here in some days to decimate them. For these two operations, repairs should be done at least in Mandalay.

A convoy finished unloading 98k supplies in Rangoon, that now had 157k, far enough to support the Burma Army for some time.

China

67 Val flew from Japan to China to begin operational training (one crashed on the way, killing its crew). 23 Val left Wuhan for Japan and will fly north to join the KB.

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Northern Pacific

Japanese airmen reported numerous Allied TF sailing back to the Kuriles during the day, at the cost of a Jake and an Emily shot down by Allied fighters. Six Allied TF were reported today 120 miles east of PJ: 4 AP convoy, a PT TF and a surface TF (a “BB” and two “CA” reported). 60 miles more east were at least two CV TF (the CVL Belleau Wood was identified), a surface combat TF and an AO TF and 60 miles south of these two fleets there were other TFs, the only one well identified with 3 “BB” and several AP. The guess of the Japanese analysists was that the southern TF was sailing to OJ, and the northern one to PJ. The Allied CV TF will probably sail SW of PJ and SE of OJ to cover both. There was also at least two CVE with the fleet that sent aircraft to attack PJ in the afternoon.

Indeed PJ was bombed twice, first by 8 TBF and 7 TBM escorted by 6 F6F and launched from these CVE, and then by 23 B-24J, 21 B-24D and 5 PB4Y from Attu. The base reported 103 casualties, 3 disabled guns, 6 hits on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 58 on the runways. A TBF was shot down by Japanese AA fire.

In the evening the SS USS Hackleback chased unsuccessfully barges SW of PJ.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 16 men and 2 guns, Japanese ones 246 men and 7 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 207 278 men (+656), 2157 guns (+17) and 421 vehicles (-1) for 4135 AV (+21) against 99 983 men (+361), 802 guns (-2) and 7 tankettes for 1778 AV (+6).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 22/0/0 (airbase/runway/port), 424 (+1) engineers, 32 499 supplies (-1127) and 230 mines (I-122 laid another field last night here). OJ showed damage 47/35 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 14 580 men (+0), 51 guns (+10) and 44 vehicles (+0).

The KB had gathered at the planned place 240 miles west of OJ and 300 of PJ, but with OJ on the way, only the faster ships (cruisers and destroyers) may reach PJ tonight, without the BB. Wether to do this or not was discussed and finally it was decided to wait one more night, and to sail 60 miles closer to PJ. Fighters will fly 90% CAP while attack bombers will fly naval search. Allied CV may well be in range tomorrow if they sail as usual SW of PJ. 30 Nick and 37 Oscar from Toyohara and 30 Oscar and 18 A6M3 from Shikka will LRCAP the Japanese fleet tomorrow. In Toyohara G4M2 crew were grounded for rest, while G4M1 will fly extensive naval search.

The RO-64 patrolling off PJ was ordered to sail south and will return there at the same time as the surface ships. On the other hand the barge convoy closing to PJ will go there and probably be wiped out but will provide data about the Allied strength.

Japanese engineers increased today the Japanese air power in the area by opening an airfield on Etoforu Jima and increasing Toyohara airfield to size 7.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 5 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 15 P-38G and 16 B-24D, 12 B-25C and 9 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 20 P-38G bombed Rabaul, did 37 casualties, disabled a gun, and scored 4 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 27 on the runways. 39 B-25J from Lae escorted by 21 P-38G attacked Wewak, did 9 casualties and scored 2 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 18 on the runways. Two B-25C were shot down by AA fire over Rabaul.

Rabaul reported damage of 88/45/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 534 supplies (-81) for 4737 (-12) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 18%, +5%) and Wewak repaired as usual damage done today and was again ready to build fortifications (5, 71%, +0%), but had now only 68 remaining supplies (+48). The DD Hamakaze will bring 83 supplies to this base tonight.

Due to the damage done to Rabaul airfield, the evacuation flights to Ponape were stopped. A new barge convoy left Truk for Rabaul with supplies, while another sailed from Lunga.

The apparition of escorts over Wewak delayed the planned LRCAP from Hollandia.

Timor-DEI-Australia

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 26 B-25C from Derby that met 9 Oscar II and 7 Nick defending the base. After a short battle all bombers turned back but they suffered no loss while a Nick was shot down by their return fire. At the same time a patrolling B-25C bombed and hit off the base the big blockade runner Toa Maru that was unloading supplies. Dili was the target of 37 B-17E and 36 B-24D escorted by 9 Kittyhawk III from Darwin that did 52 casualties, disabled 2 guns and scored 1 hit on the airbase, 3 on supplies and 52 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 29 B-24J and 15 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 15 P-40N and 2 Kittyhawk III and reported 30 casualties, 1 disabled gun and 4 hits on the airbase, 9 on supplies and 27 on the runways. The only Allied loss was a B-17E lost in an accident.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 43% (+6%)), Koepang was damaged 10/0/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 73/68/0, Lautem 45/19/38, other bases undamaged.

115 Allied aircraft (83 fighters and 32 auxiliary) were reported on Kai Island. 10+ AK were still unloading off the base, but the surface TF was no more seen. Hashimoto TF refuelled today in Kendari and sailed again to be ready to attack the island tomorrow night. It will be tomorrow 360 miles NW of Kai Island and will be LRCAPed by an Oscar Sentai. Recon and naval search were increased to confirm that warships were gone. 18 Ki-48 flew from Tarakan to Amboina, 10 to bomb Kai during the night and 8 to fly naval search. 41 Betty arrived in Kendari from Palau and will be ready to strike the Allied survivors of a naval battle.

More west the Oscar left Koepang and went to Macassar for a rest. The Nick of Maumere remained in place and will LRCAP again Koepang tomorrow, despite the bad results of today’s interception. The AK Toa Maru (damaged 21/5/5) left Koepang and will sail to Macassar to unload her remaining 3000 supplies.

Burma

The Allied commander on the Burma front had no luck at all. Like six days ago, the day chosen for another attack on Myitkyina saw an awful weather and only one air raid was launched. 15 B-25J from Ledo and Kohima escorted by 26 P-40E and 21 P-40N attacked Myitkyina airfield, doing 27 casualties and scoring 1 hit on the airbase and 8 on the runways. 11 P-47C and 7 P-40E flew LRCAP over the city and one Thunderbolt was lost operationally.

Despite the lack of air support Allied troops attacked in Myitkyina but suffered a bloody defeat. Japanese reinforcements (the 104th Div and a regiment of the 30th Div) and the disruption and losses from the last attack were the reasons of this failure, after the success of the last offensive. The Allied engineers failed to reduce the fortifications (still level 5) and the deliberate attack was a 0 to 1 failure (3925 (-232 compared to six days ago) Allied AV vs 1881 (+500), adjusted to 2832 vs 4251). And Allied losses (8585 men, 178 guns and 20 vehicles, 22 troop points) were far higher than the Japanese (1518 men, 25 guns, 4 vehicles, 3 troop points). More Japanese troops were now pinned down there but the Allied offensive should now be stopped long enough to allow the 28th Army to defeat the Chinese SE of the city and open a supply path from Lashio. Then with supplies coming again, the city should be safe.

More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (10 Allied men hit), where 1083 Japanese AV (-2) faced 1726 Allied (+0).

The evening report showed damage of 65/34 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 195 supplies (-180) for needs of 15 324 (+3752). Mandalay was damaged at 60/0 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/54.

Japanese recon reported 34 Hurricane II and 26 P-40N defending Imphal, 23 Spitfire Vb over Kohima but still no CAP over Dimapur where 70 aircraft were based, including a group of P-35 and a squadron of B-25J. This base will be attacked tomorrow. 51 Ki-49 flew to Mandalay and will attack in the afternoon, at the same time than 27 G4M1 Betty from Rangoon.

China

There was no flying today due to bad weather. Japanese engineers expanded Sian airfield to size 7.

Japan

80 trained Val were gathered in Sapporo, ready to reinforce the KB.

A convoy loaded 57k fuel in Maizuru and another 48k in Hungnam (Korea). They will carry them to Toyohara and Shikka.

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7 October 1943: 4th battle of PJ, day one - 9/28/2007 12:24:46 AM   
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7 October 1943

Northern Pacific

During the night Allied ships arrived off PJ. A half-dozen DD detected two minefields and sweep mines but two transports hit Type 88 mines: the AK Jeremiah S Black was heavily damaged, while the AK Edmund Fanning reported no serious battle. Adm Lee led a powerful surface TF off PJ (BB Alabama, West Virginia and Colorado, CA Louisville and 8 DD (6 American, an Australian and a British)) and engaged… a convoy of 15 barges, that scattered. Four barges were sunk with 16in shells and some torpedoes… The Allied convoy anchored off PJ but didn’t start to unload until dawn.

Also during the night the Japanese submarine RO-64 was chased by 4 DD SE of PJ and was damaged by depth charges dropped by the DD Meredith and Murray that scored 1 direct hit and 6 near-misses. She will return to Japan for repairs.

The new Allied landing on PJ started at dawn but proved to be bloody. To start with 5 MSW, 4 DMS, 5 DD and 5 DE swept all six minefields laid off PJ by the SS I-122 since the last landing but as usual one ship of the convoy, here the AK Jalapalaka, hit one mine per swept minefield and six Type 88 mines were enough to sink her. Contrary to the former Allied landings there the coastal defences were not bombed the day before and were fully ready to engage Allied ships and troops. Japanese artillerymen fired 5939 shells and heavily damaged 4 LST and 1 MSW, set on fire 4 DD, 3 DE, 5 LST and 1 MSW, and hit more lightly 2 DD, 2 DE and 3 LST. Allied casualties during the landing were 5165 men, 64 guns and 18 vehicles, while counter battery fire hit 2 Japanese guns and 6 men.

There was no Japanese air attack in the area, but in the afternoon the airfield was attacked by 20 B-24J, 20 B-24D and 6 PB4Y from Attu and by 5 B-24J from Kiska. The base reported 96 casualties, 6 disabled guns, 9 hits on the airbase, 7 on supplies and 34 on the runways. Two B-24J and a B-24D were shot down by Japanese AA fire.

At sea, bad weather ruled over the whole area this day. The KB plan was to draw Allied CV aircraft and ecimated them with 90% CAP while all attack aircraft flew naval search. The idea behind this being that so they might hit enemy ships with relatively low losses, “simulating” attacks in small groups hard to catch with CAP…

The problem was that in the morning the Japanese CV reacted eastwards to get closer of Allied CV, leaving behind two surface TF. The American SS Hackleback tried to attack a CV TF during this move but was chased by 6 DD and depth charged by the Matsukaze and the Takanami and damaged by a hit and 7 near-misses. The Allied CVE TF off PJ also reacted, sailing NW.

This morning both the old and the new location (60 miles NW of Ketoi Jima) of the KB and the location US main CV fleet (SW of PJ) and CVE TF (NW of it) were covered by clouds so there was no raid but the new Japanese tactic allowed to score some hits. This morning Val and Judy hit two submarines west of OJ, the Dace and the Corvina, but also the AO Guadalupe sailing with the US CV.

In the afternoon, Val and Judy continued and scored hits on the SS Corvina and Hackleback, but also on the CVL Belleau Wood SW of PJ… The real amount of damage was unknown, of course. Allied CAP shot down during the day 17 aircraft (5 Kate, 4 Val, 2 Jill, 2 Dinah III, 2 Jake, 1 Dave and 1 Emily) in the area, and Allied AA shot down one more Judy near OJ, while Japanese KB fighters shot down 15 (6 SBD, 3 TBM, 2 Walrus, 2 TBF, 1 PB4Y and 1 Barracuda).
But this afternoon, weather cleared over the US main CV fleet… and over the old location of the KB, but not the new one. And again Japanese ships were attacked after the KB reacted away from them. LRCAP was flown over the remaining TF by an Oscar II Sentai and a Nick Sentai.

Three Allied waves attacked:
1) 66 SBD and 16 TBM escorted by 67 F6F, 11 Hellcat II and 2 Wildcat V attacked the surface TF led by the Mutsu. The escort shot down 22 Oscar II and 17 Nick for the loss of seven F6F and allowed the bombers to reach the ships unscathed. But they scored very few hits: the CL Kitakami was set on fire by a torpedo and the DD Yukaze by a bomb, while other bombs bounced on the BB Mutsu and on CAs, destroying a 5in turret aboard the Myoko. Japanese AA fire shot down 2 SBD.
2) 32 SBD and 16 TBF escorted by 7 F6F attacked the AO TF that was following the KB. Five Nick were seen over the ships and were all shot down by the escort. Then the PG Uji was sunk by 3 bombs and 2 torpedoes, and the DD Kuretake and 3 AO were set on fire each by a bomb (one of the AO, the Shiretoko, also took a torpedo)
3) 32 SBD and 17 TBM escorted by 12 F6F attacked again the Mutsu TF. Two Nick in the area were shot down by the escort and the attack concentrated on the Mutsu. She opposed heavy fire to the attackers, shooting down 3 SBD and 2 TBM, but was hit by two torpedoes and several bombs, one destroying a 5in turret.

Finally the naval losses were rather light (a PG sunk, other ships should survive (see detailed damage below)) and at least this day has allowed to judge the strike power of the Allied CV fleet, that launched today a total of 130 SBD, 33 TBM and 16 TBF escorted by 86 F6F, 11 Hellcat II and 2 Wildcat V. The current KB could deal with such attacks. Air losses were more serious… The 5 Sentai lost 22 Oscar II and 14 pilots to score 2 kills, while the 13 Sentai lost 24 Nick and 16 pilots (including at least two WIA) to score 4… By the way shooting down a Hellcat with a Nick was a good achievement, but for all purposes these two units were now out of the battle…

Other bad news were that air patrols reported again PT off OJ. Recon also reported 17 F6F on LRCAP over this base.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 12 men, Japanese ones 224 men and 3 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 231 086 men (+23 808), 2413 guns (+256) and 499 vehicles (+78) for 4682 AV (+547) against 99 540 men (-443), 800 guns (-2) and 7 tankettes for 1788 AV (+10).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 38/9/0 (airbase/runway/port), 425 (+1) engineers, 31 394 supplies (-1105) and zero mines (all 230 were swept today). OJ showed damage 30/37 (airfield/port) and recons reported 9 units with 15 140 men (+560), 39 guns (-12) and 38 vehicles (-6).

The map below shows the situation at dusk on the 7th.




In the evening the four damaged warships (BB Mutsu (25/5/32), CL Kitakami (40/44/12), DD Yukaze (52/36/38) and Kuretake (40/33/35) gathered in an escort TF and sailed together to Shikka under escort by 4 intact DD.
The AO replenishment TF will also retire to Shikka under escort by 3 DD and a PC. The state of the damaged AO was the following: Shiretoko (46/18/49), Erimo (27/0/49) and Naruto (17/3/49).

But most of other ships will fight. The Japanese High Command decided to take risks tomorrow. The idea is to try to attack Allied CV at sea during the night and then to concentrate Japanese ships off PJ during the day. The KB CV will be just 60 miles NW of PJ and attack AC with range 1 will attack Allied warships off PJ. Also bombers from Toyohara and Shikka will fly naval attack limited at the range to reach PJ. Allied CV attacked during the night should withdraw and be out of range of these bombers. They will probably attack Japanese CV and heavy Japanese CAP was planned to decimate them.
The main risk of this plan (outside the fact that naval battles might be lost, but Japanese TF should be stronger than their opponent during the night, and should attack TF already badly hit by aircraft during the day) was the bad weather (rain forecast for tomorrow) that might cover the KB and leave Allied CV pound Japanese ships off PJ. To reduce the risk, the plan was to move land-based fighters to PJ so that they will cover the ship. Then the risk was that Allied ships bombarded the base. To stop them or reduce the effect of their attack, two suicide TF of old DD and the barge TF will sail to PJ during the night and create as much confusion as possible.

The details of the order given:
_ two TF will try to attack Allied CV and their covering force SW of PJ (assuming they won’t move to cover both PJ and OJ). The first will be led by Adm Yamaguchi with 5 BB, 3 CA, 1 CL and 6 DD that were with the CV TF when they reacted eastwards. The second will be led by Adm Tanaka with 2 CA, 3 CL and 5 DD. Both have orders to retire to PJ during the morning.
_ All Japanese CV in 3 TF, each under escort by a cruiser and 6 DD will sail NW of PJ and NE of OJ. The orders for airmen were CAP 70% for fighters, naval attack range 1 for the attack aircraft.
_ another surface TF was created with the 3 CA bombed today. They were only slightly damaged but had still some fire aboard and so should be disadvantaged in a night battle. With 8 DD and Adm Nishimura leading it will escort the CV during the night and then sail to PJ in the morning to join the other Japanese surface forces.
_ a light surface TF of 6 DD will sail with the CV TF and remain with them during the day too.
_ as said above, two small TF of 3 old DD each will sail to PJ to engage Allied ships and maybe scored a lucky torpedo hit. Their main goal was to protect the airfield from naval bombardment.
_ the last TF was a pair of modern DD that will sail in waters 120 miles ESE of PJ to intercept damaged ships retreating to Aleutians. In this place they will either find damaged transports, or badly damaged DD that won’t be too dangerous for them. These two DD will then retire at full speed southwards.
_ three Japanese submarines remained operational in the area. The I-174 will sail to 60 miles SE of PJ, the place where Allied CV should retire after being attacked by Japanese BB. It was hoped that their escort will have suffered and so the submarine may have some opportunities to attack Allied CV. The RO-63 will be 60 miles more east and will chase damaged ships. The I-40 (and her Glen) will sail to a point midway between PJ and Kiska, and also chase damaged ships.

53 Ki-61, 32 A6M3, 27 Irving, 22 Ki-44, 15 A6M3a, 9 Rufe flew to PJ to fly CAP over it tomorrow. 26 Ki-49 also flew to this base and will fly naval search and attack at range 0 tomorrow.

From Toyohara 94 G4M2 and 36 G4M1 escorted by 35 Oscar II will fly naval attack to range 9 (PJ, the hex SW of it, OJ). 26 G4M1 and 5 G4M2 from Shikka will fly at the same range.

The 5 Sentai was degraded to training unit status. Four pilots flew to Japan to rebuild the unit with rookie pilots, the 9 remaining other integrated the 204 Sentai.

The objective of tomorrow is to devastate Allied shipping off PJ by air attacks from Sakhalin bases and the KB, and to repulse Allied transports. Land-bases and KB fighters goal will be to decimated Allied CV airmen and heavy bombers and cover Japanese ships. Any hit on Allied CV either by Japanese ships or submarines will be a bonus. By the way the CVE off PJ will probably be sunk tomorrow. Both sides should suffer heavy losses tomorrow but Japan should be able to last longer than the Allied and so keep control of the battlefield.

69 Oscar II having finished op training in China arrived in Toyohara and Shikka to serve of reserve.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 6 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 15 P-38G and 16 B-24D, 14 B-17E and 11 B-25C from Dobadura escorted by 21 P-38G and 3 P-38J bombed Rabaul, did 30 casualties, and scored 1 hit on the airbase and 36 on the runways. 44 B-25J from Lae escorted by 20 P-38G attacked Wewak, and scored 1 hit on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 18 on the runways. Three B-25C were shot down by AA fire over Rabaul and a B-25J suffered the same fate over Wewak, while another B-25J was lost in an accident. On the Japanese side a Dinah III was shot down during a recon over Madang.

Rabaul reported damage of 89/48/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 534 supplies (-0) for 4737 (-3) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 22%, +4%) and Wewak repaired as usual damage done today and was again ready to build fortifications (5, 71%, +0%), but had now only 4 remaining supplies (-64). The DD Hamakaze unloaded 83 supplies in this base last night and sailed back to Palau.

Due to the damage done to Rabaul airfield, the evacuation flights to Ponape were stopped.

The 18 Zero sent to Hollandia originally to LRCAP Wewak received new orders due to the P-38 now escorting raids on this city and flew to Kendari. One was lost on the way with his pilot.

Timor-DEI-Australia

During the night 5 Ki-48 took off from Amboina to bombard Kai Island but missed the airfield.

In the morning a PBM Mariner bombed and hit again the damaged AK Toa Maru retreating northwards from Koepang. The attack took place SW of Maumere.

In the afternoon, Dili was the target of 44 B-17E and 24 B-24D escorted by 16 P-40N and 5 Kittyhawk III from Darwin that did 39 casualties and scored 5 hits on the airbase, 3 on supplies and 40 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 30 B-24J and 13 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 13 Kittyhawk III and reported 3 hits on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 18 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Lautem and a B-17E was lost operationally. On the Japanese side a Ki-48 flying naval search from Amboina was shot down by the Allied CAP near Kai Island, and a Nick flying an (useless) LRCAP over Koepang from Maumere was lost operationally.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 48% (+5%)), Koepang was had repaired all damage and had fort 6, 77%, Dili 81/72/0 (system/runway/port), Lautem 52/35/38, other bases undamaged.

141 Allied aircraft (90 fighters and 51 auxiliary) were reported on Kai Island. Two TF were seen off the island, one with 3 AK, 2 CA, 3 LCM and another with an AP and an SS…. Not precise data but at least the Allied surface TF was confirmed to not be there any more. Hashimoto was know in position 360 miles NW of Kai Island and wasn’t detected today. It will attack tonight the Allied ships off Kai Island with his own ships (CA Furutaka and 10 DD) and will then retire towards Kendari under LRCAP by 30 A6M3. The 47 Betties available in Kendari were ordered to fly naval attack at range 10 to be able to strike Allied ships fleeing the attack south of Kai Island.

The Ki-48 sent to Amboina flew to Menado before Allied heavy bombers blasted them.

The Nick of Maumere left and went to Macassar for a rest. The AK Toa Maru was now damaged at 36/10/5and continued to sail to Macassar to unload her remaining 3000 supplies.

SRA

180 miles SE of Hong Kong the submarine USS Albacore attacked in the morning the small troop convoy bringing a base force Hong Kong to Wasile and one torpedo hit set on fire the AK Hori Maru, doing 15 casualties. The submarine escaped the 6 escorts and attacked again later during the day, sinking the PC Shonan Maru 1 with another torpedo. This time one escort dropped DCs but away from the Albacore that escaped unhurt. The convoy sailed in the evening to Takao, Formosa, to unload troops and repair the damaged ship.

Burma

Allied airmen flew only 65 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 11 B-25J and 25 escorts from Ledo on the airfield (23 casualties, 14 hits on the runways) and 29 LRCAP sorties (by P-47C and P-40E).

On the other hand, Japanese airmen were active and two raids (by 50 Ki-49 from Mandalay and 19 Betty from Rangoon) hit the airfield of Dimapur in the morning. There were no local defences but two P-40N of the Chinese 25th CFS flying from a nearby base managed to cross the way of the bombers and to shot down one of each type. Another Ki-49 was lost operationally but the attack found its target and destroyed on the ground 6 P-35A and 2 B-25J, and scored 12 runway hits. Allied fighters scored another victory over Dacca where the CAP (27 Spitfire and P-40N) shot down an J1N1-R Irving.

On the ground Allied artillery fired again at Myitkyina (where 2235 Japanese AV faced 2993 Allied) and hit 30 men and 1 gun. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (10 Allied men hit), where 1083 Japanese AV (-2) faced 1726 Allied (+0).

The evening report showed damage of 65/41 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 134 supplies (-61) for needs of 12 551 (-2773). Mandalay was damaged at 35/0 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/45.

The 49 remaining Ki-49 flew back from Mandalay to Rangoon and Bangkok.

The good news of the day was reports that Allied units were leaving Myitkyina northwards. Yesterday there was 36 Allied units here and 4 more north on the trail to Ledo. Today there were 30 outside the city and 10 more north. Whether it was the start of a general retreat after the failure of yesterday’s attack, or just wrecked units sent back, it was a good omen for Burma Army. Units marching back will be out of the battle for at least 5 months (including 2 months marching back, at least one month to be rebuilt, and two months to march south again).

China

48 training and 10 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan against Chinese troops NW of Changsha, and hit 9 men without loss.

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RE: 7 October 1943: 4th battle of PJ, day one - 9/29/2007 6:13:27 PM   
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Hi all,

Although we know that AAR is behind actual PBEM the suspense is great!


Whole Japanese empire watches cold Pacific north where faith of the still unbeaten Japan is decided!!!

Best of of luck Admiral - may the Gods be with you - Banzai!!!


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Hi all,

Should we conclude that Japan finaly lost crucial battle and that this "killed" all info for general public (just as it happened in WWII when bad news never reached the general Japanese population and ordinary soldiers - only officers knew the truth because their info was not censored)?


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Maybe long range Allied fighters intercepted Amiral Laurent's aircraft whilst he was on undertaking an inspection of front line troops. Hopefully we will learn his fate soon.

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Hi, all. Admiral Laurent wasn't intercepted but RL priorities made that AAR stop by total lack of time (while there was more and more to say). Game advanced slowly and is now closing on the end of the month. It had been a bloody and hard month, with me going trough all sorts of psychological states, but the game is going on... And this week-end I have time to advance on the AAR between two turns (I was away all other week-ends this month).

So here is the day when the promised mega-naval battle took place.

8 October 1943

Northern Pacific

During the night the main Japanese surface fleet searched the Allied CV SW of PJ but they had moved and were not there. The fleet only met the SS USS Rasher that attacked the CA Kako. Her torpedoes failed and she was then chased by a CL and 5 DD but escaped after a near-miss.

The two small DD TF (3 DD each) sent to disturb Allied operations off PJ met this same night an Allied TF made of the CA Pensacola and Salt Lake City, the CL Emerald, Honolulu and Richmond and 7 US destroyers. Both Japanese TF were surprised and all six destroyers (Fubuki, Tachikaze, Shiokaze, Shinomone, Mutsuki and Uranami) were sunk while scoring only 5 hits that bounced on the Pensacola, the only result being to destroy one of her radars. The same Allied TF also engaged a barge convoy and sank four of them with shells and torpedoes. This covering TF protected perfectly the other Allied TF.

So a bombardment TF hit PJ with the BB Alabama, Colorado and West Virginia and the CA Louisville but was repulsed by the CD defence and didn’t reach the crowded airfield. Japanese losses were 83 men, 7 guns and 1 vehicle.

The convoy TF continued to unload troops on PJ during the night and a little more during the day. Japanese defenders fired a total of 1019 shells on it, but only set a LST on fire and hit more lightly 3 DD, 1 DE, 1 DMS and 1 MSW. Allied landing losses were 426 men, 5 guns and 14 vehicles.

The only small Japanese success during the success in the area was the intercept of two damaged AK by two Japanese DD 120 miles WSW of PJ. The AK Edmund Fanning was sunk by gunfire and 4 torpedoes, and the AK Jeremiah S Black was heavily damaged by 6 shells before the Japanese warships retreated southwards.

Dawn brought a new Japanese success. The submarine I-40 sank the damaged destroyer USS Helm with two torpedoes 360 miles west of Kiska. The morning was then almost peaceful, thanks to clouds that covered PJ, OJ and the KB north of them. The Allied CV were now SE of PJ in a cloud-clear area but so had no target. They nevertheless scored a hit this morning when a patrolling SBD sneaked close to the KB and claimed a hit on the CVL Chiyoda. It was either FOW or did very small damage anyway.

But the weather cleared in the afternoon and only PJ remained under clouds. The KB, the Allied CV and the Allied convoy off OJ (covered by a CAP of 13 F6F and 10 FM-2) were under clear weather and bloody air battles were fought in some hours.

The first battle took place over PJ that was the target of 21 B-24J, 18 B-24D and 6 PB4Y from Attu. 25 Ki-61, 17 A6M3, 15 Ki-44, 13 Irving, 6 A6M3a and 6 Rufe intercepted them and shot down 9 B-24J, 4 B-24D and 3 PB4Y for the loss of an Irving to return fire, but couldn’t stop the bombers that reached the airfield and destroyed on the ground 7 aircraft (2 Irving, 2 Ki-61, 2 Ki-49 and 1 A6M3a), did 26 casualties and scored 2 hits on the airbase and 8 on the runways. They were followed by 3 B-24J from Kiska that went without much trouble trough the CAP, shooting down a Rufe without loss, but then missed the target and lost one of their number to AA fire.

The next Allied attacks were on the KB and were launched by the Allied CV in two waves:
_ the first was flown by 100 SBD and 29 TBM escorted by 52 F6F and 9 Hellcat II and met a CAP of 246 A6M5 and 12 A6M3a that shot down or repulsed all of them, but with heavier losses than in the previous battles. It was still a success as the CAP suffered 68 losses (66 A6M5 and 2 A6M3a) for shooting down 140 Allied aircraft (59 SBD, 48 F6F, 24 TBM and 9 Hellcat II).
_ a smaller second wave then attacked with 26 SBD and 16 TBF escorted by 7 F6F. 177 A6M5 and 10 A6M3a repulsed the attack and shot down 32 Allied aircraft (15 TBF, 10 SBD and 7 F6F) for 8 losses (all A6M5)

So far the Japanese air plan has gone not too bad, with the Allied CV airmen being decimated for no result. The fact that PJ was still covered by clouds was a major problem as so Japanese CV airmen could not support the BB TF sent there but they had targets in range (the planned range being 1 for all attack aircraft) as an Allied convoy and a surface TF were off OJ.

But CV airmen didn’t attack them. Toyohara bombers didn’t fly either and so this concentration was only attacked by 27 Betty from Shikka. Two missed a LCI, the other attacked a surface TF but with little success. They claimed two torpedo hits on the heavy cruiser USS Chester but she was not seen to be heavily hit. Another CA, a CL and two DD dodged torpedoes and AA fire shot down 6 bombers (4 G4M1 and 2 G4M2).

And then took place the first big disaster of the day. Only torpedo bombers units had correctly received the order to attack only targets at 60 miles or less, dive-bomber units still had their old orders. And so Japanese CV wing leaders had decide to send all available escort fighters with the dive-bombers against the Allied CV and the unescorted torpedo bombers didn’t fly at all, even against the unprotected ships off OJ.

At least the Japanese strike was well coordinated and all units reached together the target with 71 Val and 42 Judy escorted by 117 A6M5 and 6 A6M3a. But the Allied CAP intercepted them with 170 F6F, 18 Hellcat II and 3 Wildcat V. At this stage the Japanese commander who was anxiously following the day’s battles left the radio room of his HQ in Hiroshima and isolated himself with several sake bottles (in real world, I stopped watching the animation and just ended the turn by clicking, clicking, clicking… furious after myself).

Even the relative good news that this strike was not in vain was not enough to calm him down. On the positive side, the CVL Langley was set on fire by two bombs, the Yorktown was hit by another and a fourth one bounced on the armoured deck of the Indomitable. And 38 F6F were shot down.

But at an awful cost of 113 A6M5, 58 Val (5 to AA), 43 Judy (7 to AA) and 6 A6M3a.

The last air battle of the day took place when the Ki-57 bringing as usual reinforcement troops from Toyohara to PJ were intercepted by Allied fighters flying from the CVE of the beachhead, and Japanese fighters on CAP reacted. The latter managed to protect the transports but suffered 20 losses (9 Ki-61, 7 Ki-44, 2 A6M3 and 2 Irving) to score 14 victories (7 F6F and 7 FM-2). PJ-based fighters also suffered three losses (1 Irving, 1 A6M5 and 1 A6M3) in accidents.

When the staff had finished counting the naval search losses for both sides (14 Japanese losses (5 Judy, 4 Val, 2 Jake, 2 Pete and 1 Dave) and 33 Allied (14 SOC-3, 9 TBM, 5 SBD, 2 TBF, 2 Walrus and 1 Barracuda) shot down by enemy fighters, and a Mariner shot down over PJ by AA fire), the final body count for this day in the area was:
_ 330 Japanese losses: 299 CV aircraft (196 fighters, 98 dive-bombers and 5 floatplanes) and 31 land-based (23 fighters and 8 bombers).
_ 265 Allied losses: 257 CV aircraft (116 fighters, 125 attack aircraft and 16 floatplanes) and 18 land-based (17 heavy bombers, a Mariner).

The worst losses of the day were among the elite CV fighter units. Tens of veteran pilots were lost due to the Japanese commander mistake and will never be replaced.

The evening report of the KB fighter units was the following (from the best kill ratio to the worst one):
_ CI-1 claimed 10 kills and lost 2 fighters and 2 pilots (at least one WIA)
_ FI-1 claimed 24 kills and lost 8 fighters and 6 pilots (at least two WIA)
_ EII-1 claimed 26 kills and lost 8 fighters and 7 pilots
_ DI-1 claimed 27 kills and lost 9 fighters and 8 pilots (at least one WIA)
_ DII-1 claimed 15 kills and lost 9 fighters and 5 pilots
_ BII-1 claimed 21 kills and lost 9 fighters and 8 pilots (at least two WIA)
_ EIII-1 claimed 14 kills and lost 7 fighters and 7 pilots (at least one WIA)
_ DIII-1 claimed 16 kills and lost 8 fighters and 8 pilots (at least one WIA)
_ JII-1 claimed 14 kills and lost 9 fighters and 8 pilots
_ JI-1 claimed 13 kills and lost 8 fighters and 8 pilots
_ BI-1 claimed 12 kills and lost 12 fighters and 10 pilots
_ EI-1 claimed 8 kills and lost 8 fighters and 7 pilots
_ AI-1 claimed 11 kills and lost 13 fighters and 10 pilots (at least two WIA)
_ CII-1 claimed 6 kills and lost 6 fighters and 6 pilots
_ AII-1 claimed 6 kills and lost 8 fighters and 7 pilots
_ F1/261st claimed 5 kills and lost 26 fighters and 21 pilots
_ F1/653rd claimed 4 kills and lost 19 fighters and 18 pilots
_ F2/653rd claimed 3 kills and lost 20 fighters and 18 pilots
_ JIII-1 claimed 1 kill and lost 7 fighters and 6 pilots

The four worst units were logically the training units sent into the battle to boost the numbers of available fighters. Rookies were slaughtered. These four units lost 72 fighters and 63 pilots (KIA, POW, WIA) to score only 13 kills, while the experienced KB units lost 134 fighters and 107 pilots to score 223 kills.

More bad news arrived later, concerning the naval battles off PJ. The expected air support (either from PJ or from the KB) had been unable to get trough the clouds covering the area during the whole day and so the Allied TFs were intact to engage the Japanese warships, setting the place for the bigger battle since the Jutland as 5 Japanese BB, 8 CA, 4 CL and 19 DD met 3 Allied BB, 5 CA, 5 CL and 22 DD. On the paper the Japanese had the advantage but in reality late-war Allied CL are better than CA while Japanese CL are more close to a DD, so the only net advantage of the IJN was in the number of BB. The plan for this battle was to engage warships damaged and disorganized by air strikes, not an intact fleet.

Each side was divided into a BB TF and two cruiser TF.

On the Japanese side:
_ the BB TF had 5 BB, 3 CA, 1 CL, 6 DD
_ the first cruiser TF had 3 CA and 8 DD
_ the second (led by Tanaka) had 2 CA, 3 CL and 5 DD

On the Allied side:
_ the BB TF had 3 BB, 1 CA, 8 DD
_ the first cruiser TF had 2 CA, 3 CL and 7 DD
_ the second (led by Tanaka) had 2 CA, 2 CL and 7 DD

The battle started badly for the IJN as the Imperial BB TF was surprised in bad weather by the Allied BB TF. The BB Hiei was critically hit during the first minutes of the minutes and was later sunk by more shells but the exchange of fire was then more equilibrate. None of the other Japanese BB was seriously hit, but two DD (Niizuki, Minekaze) were heavily damaged and one (Satsuki) set on fire. The Allied TF lost the DD USS Wilson and HMS Panther sunk, the BB USS West Virginia, the CA USS Louisville and the DD USS Smith, Porter and Phelps heavily damaged and the BB USS Alabama and the DD USS Clark and HMAS Stuart on fire.

The IJN BB TF was then attacked by the first Allied cruiser TF that managed well despite its inferior firepower. All three Japanese destroyers damaged in the previous battle (Niizuki, Satsuki and Minekaze) were sunk, two more (Kishinami and Amagiri) were damaged and the BB Kirishima and Musashi, the CA Atago and Ashigara and the DD Yamakaze were set on fire. The Allied TF achieved this with moderate losses: the DD Thatcher sunk, the CL Richmond and the DD Stevens, Monssen and Gwin heavily damaged and the CA Pensacola and Salt Lake City, CL Emerald and DD Trathen set on fire.

The first Japanese cruiser force was following the BB TF but was also surprised by the second Allied cruiser TF and all of its ships were badly hit in the close-range battle that followed. Five destroyers (Hayanami, Maikaze, Shiranuhi, Shiratsuyu and Samidare) were sunk, a sixth, the Murakumo, was heavily damaged, and the five last ships (CA Maya, Myoko and Mikuma and DD Arare and Harukaze) were set on fire. On the Allied side, the DD Walke was sunk, the CA Wichita and the DD Warrington and O’Brien were heavily damaged and the CL Newcastle and the DD Welles and Frazier were set on fire.

This long series of Japanese disasters was finally stopped by Tanaka that led the second Japanese cruiser TF into the battle. It first engaged briefly the first Allied cruiser TF that was retiring and sank without any damage two damaged ships, the CL Richmond and the DD Stevens.

Tanaka then sailed at full speed towards the Allied beachhead and found the Amphibious TF that was leading the Allied landing (the AGC Blue Ridge, having aboard an Amphibious HQ, escorted by 3 DE, the Osterhaus, McConnell and Charles R Green). The DE did their best to cover their flagship and managed to hit and set on fire the DD Oshio and Namikaze, but the Japanese TF sank all four Allied ships and 1059 men of the HQ were drowned.

Tanaka had still an almost intact TF and attacked the second Allied cruiser TF and defeated it. The DD Namikaze took more shells and was heavily damaged while the DD Tokitsukaze was set on fire, but they were the only Japanese losses. On the Allied side three damaged ships (the CA Wichita and the DD O’Brien and Welles) were sunk, and the DD Duncan, Woodworth and Frazier were heavily damaged.

And so ended the naval battle of PJ on this second day of the battle. Losses were heavy on both sides. Including the night “suicide” of the Japanese destroyers and the DD sunk by a Japanese submarine, they were:
Sunk: 15 Japanese ships (a BB, 14 DD) vs 15 Allied ships (1 CA, 1 CL, 1 AGC, 8 DD, 3 DE, 1 AK)
Heavily damaged: 4 Japanese DD vs 11 Allied ships (1 BB, 1 CA, 9 DD)
On fire: 12 Japanese ships (2 BB, 5 CA, 5 DD) vs 8 Allied ships (1 BB, 2 CA, 2 CL, 3 DD)
More or less intact: 12 Japanese ships (2 BB, 4 CA, 4 CL, 2 DD) vs 7 Allied ships (1 BB, 1 CA, 2 CL, 3 DD)

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 56 men, Japanese ones 129 men, 1 tank and 6 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 235 977 men (+4891), 2435 guns (+22) and 528 vehicles (+29) for 4708 AV (+26) against 99 620 men (+80), 798 guns (-2) and 6 tankettes (-1) for 1790 AV (+2).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 24/0/0 (airbase/runway/port), 425 engineers, and 30 530 supplies (-864). OJ showed damage 5/28 (airfield/port) and recons reported 10 units (+1) with 23 900 men (+8 760), 53 guns (+14) and 54 vehicles (+16). So at least a new unit was unloaded in OJ, and given the number of landed men it might be an infantry division.

Of the ship hit today, 5 damaged DD were disbanded in PJ port. Two will probably sink, the others were so damaged that they could move only one hex a turn and so couldn’t escape with Allied CV in the area.
The less critically hit ships (2 BB, 5 CA, 4 DD, all still able to do 16 knots) will sail NW of PJ and then go to Shikka.
Tanaka gathered together the combat worthy ships (2 BB, 3 CA, 4 CL and 2 DD) and received orders to remain off PJ. The Allied remaining ships should be weaker than this TF. Tanaka reloaded shells in PJ, but there was no fuel available.

The pic below will show you the state of the surviving Japanese ships:




At the end of the day PJ had 143 aircraft able to fly CAP (including Rufe and Irving) and 124 available, and 8 Oscar II arrive to reinforce them. They should be enough to cover Tanaka ships, as both Allied CV attack aircraft and heavy bombers were decimated today.

The KB will move 60 miles west and will attack tomorrow Allied ships off OJ to stop Allied reinforcements landing there. In the evening Japanese CV had 223 fighters (209 serviceable), 55 dive-bombers (49) and 127 torpedo bombers (127). Tomorrow all AC will have a range of 1, and fighters will fly 90% CAP. 18 Kate (2 more crashed on the way) flew from Toyohara and 76 Val (1 crashed) from Sapporo to reinforce the KB. There was no available reserve fighter unit. Two units (JI-2 and JII-2) both reduced to a Judy left the KB and flew to Sapporo where they will be degraded to training units. So tomorrow, the KB will have 223 fighters (209 serviceable), 129 dive-bombers (119) and 145 torpedo bombers (143).
By the way it was hoped that the Allied CVE(s) off PJ will react to chase Japanese CV and so may come in range and be destroyed tomorrow.

Betties of Shikka and Toyohara also received orders to attack ships off OJ only, so were reduced to range 8.

The CL Isuzu was detached from the KB escort and will sweep waters 60 miles east of PJ tomorrow. At this place it should find only very damaged ships and achieve them. It might also attack Allied convoys that will be chased from PJ by Tanaka and which escort will be in a bad shape then. It will then sail at full speed to Etoforu Jima.

The three Japanese submarines sailing between Kuriles and Aleutians islands will also chase cripples. All moved in the area roughly midway of PJ and Attu/Kiska.

Both ARs of Etoforu Jima will sail at full speed and unescorted to Shikka. They may run into an Allied submarine but to save Japanese warships is worth the risk.

In Toyohara the troops gathered for the OJ operation (2nd, 18th, 48th and 116th Div, 21st and 25th Eng Rgt, 1st, 2nd and 3rd Yokosuka SNLF) boarded ships. In one day all troops were aboard and the ships began to load supplies. That should assure a one day landing in OJ. The speed will be essential for the success of this operation.

This force was planned to be escorted by the KB’s surface TFs but the strong losses of warships today made that no more possible. So a quick survey was made of Japanese ports and a CA, a CL and 8 DD that were repaired here and were combat worthy (SYS < 5) were ordered to rally Toyohara at full speed, starting from half a dozen of ports.

Six submarines also left Japanese ports towards Kuriles waters: two with Glen, another I-boat and 3 Ro boats, including a brand new one commissioned today in Tokyo.

Southern Pacific

The 4th Div finished to land in Guam. It was then divided into three parts and each part received orders to defend Guam, Tinian and Saipan, until more troops will be available.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 19 B-24D, 11 B-25C and 10 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 18 P-38G and 2 P-38J bombed Rabaul, did 17 casualties, and scored 2 hits on the airbase and 44 on the runways, while 45 B-25J from Lae escorted by 20 P-38G attacked Wewak, did 11 casualties and scored 7 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 38 on the runways. Two B-25J and two P-38G were lost operationally, while Allied fighters shot down two Dinah III during the day.

Rabaul reported damage of 91/60/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 534 supplies (-0) for 4731 (-6) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 27%, +5%) and Wewak finally didn’t repair all damage and had 8/0/0 in the evening, but had now only 37 remaining supplies (+33).

I-176 reported three Allied AP 360 miles south of Gili Gil, probably sailing for Brisbane. She will try to follow them, and the damaged I-31 (17/0/0) will come close to track them too with her Glen. The Naka and her escort DD sailed from Noumea and will try to intercept this convoy off Australia.

Japanese airmen identified an Allied MLE off Lae, probably to lay mines off new Allied bases only some days after their capture.

Timor-DEI-Australia

During the night the CA Furutaka and 10 DD attacked Allied ships off Kai Island. Their first target was a convoy of six Dutch AP escorted by two old DD, the HMAS Vendetta and the HMS Thracian. The only damage to the Japanese DD was a 4in hit on the DD Sazanami but that was enough to set her on fire, while the Vendetta was sunk by gunfire, the AP Van Rees heavily damaged by two torpedoes (with 68 casualties amongst embarked troops) and the Thracian was set on fire by 6 shells. The Japanese TF then found the solitary AK American Leader and sank her with concentrated gunfire before retreating at full speed.

In the morning five squadrons of P-38J took off from Kai Island to sweep Kendari skies. 57 P-38J reached the target area and met 87 Japanese fighters on CAP (68 Ki-44, 15 A6M3a and 4 Oscar II) that won the battle. For 16 losses (7 Tojo, 5 Zero and all 4 Oscar) the Japanese pilots shot down 30 P-38J and three more were lost operationally, bringing the cost of the raid to a 60% casualty rate.

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 15 B-25C from Derby and 33 B-24J and 33 B-24D from Darwin that did 40 casualties, disabled 2 guns and scored 18 hits on the airbase, 7 on supplies and 46 on the runways, Dili was the target of 39 B-17E escorted by 9 Kittyhawk III from Darwin that did 20 casualties and scored 1 hit on supplies and 34 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 10 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 19 Kittyhawk III and reported 1 hit on the airbase and 5 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Koepang and a B-17E and a B-24D were lost operationally.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 54% (+6%)), Koepang had damage 29/45/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 82/74/0, Lautem 53/32/38, other bases undamaged.

The DD Sazanami had damage 34/8/12 and was unable to follow the TF. All ships will return to Kendari to refuel.

Betty bombers had still naval search orders, and so didn’t attack the Allied convoy that retreated and so was no more covered by Allied CAP….

Two Chutai (one of Oscar II and one of A6M3a) left Kendari for Clark Field after being reduced to 2 and 3 pilots respectively. There they were recompleted with rookie pilots that will be trained here.

SRA

A convoy will load 21k resources in Rangoon and bring them to Singapore.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 841 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 45 B-25J and 79 escorts from Ledo, Imphal, Jorhat and Kohima on the airfield (62 casualties, 2 hits on the airbase and 72 on the runways), 330 fighter-bombers, 283 bombers and 104 escorts from Imphal, Jorhat, Ledo, Kohima, Dimapur and Dacca against 4 divisions and 1 regiment of the garrison (453 men and 15 guns hit). Two B-25J, two P-35A, a B-25C, a P-47C, a P-40N, a P-40E and a Beaufighter Mk 21 were lost in accidents. A Japanese Dinah III was shot by Allied fighters during a recon sortie to Jorhat.

On the ground Allied artillery didn’t fire at Myitkyina. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (64 Allied men and 3 guns hit), where 1085 Japanese AV (+2) faced 1722 Allied (-4).

The evening report showed damage of 67/63 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 120 supplies (-14) for needs of 12 436 (-115). Mandalay was damaged at 10/0 (airbase/runway) and Lashio at 69/36.

The Allied retreat from Myitkyina continued. They were now 24 units near the city (-6) and 14 north of it (+4). Recon aircraft will fly tomorrow to the hex south of Ledo to confirm that troops were here too, as two units were lacking in the above numbers.

China

114 training and 31 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan against Chinese troops NW of Changsha, and hit 22 men for three operational losses (2 Oscar II and a Val).


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9 October 1943: Musashi, Kirishima, Haruna sunk, Kongo ... - 10/28/2007 1:00:50 AM   
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That was the worst day of the war so far... and once again weather was on the Allied side with the Allied CV active on both phases and the KB clouded in both... but this time the price to pay was much heavier than planned.

9 October 1943

Northern Pacific

The night saw more bad news for the Japanese Navy. Off PJ Tanaka’s TF (BB Kongo and Haruna, 3 CA, 4 CL and 2 DD) engaged twice an inferior Allied surface TF (2 CA, 2 CL and 8 DD), was unable to repulse them and reach the Allied convoys and lost the gunfire duels. The CA Mogami, the CL Jintsu and the DD Akigumo were heavily damaged and the CA Chokai set on fire on the Japanese side, while on the Allied one the CL Minneapolis and the DD Kimberly were heavily damaged, and the CA Chicago, CL Perth, DD Spence and Meredith were set on fire. This Allied victory enabled the Allied convoy to continue to unload troops. CD defences only fired 36 shells and hit 22 men and 1 gun. This convoy unloaded the last troops during the day without more loss.

More east the CL Isuzu sent to chase cripples met 60 miles off PJ a far bigger game, an Allied CV TF (CV Intrepid and Enterprise and CVL Princeton escorted by 2 CL, 2 CLAA and 8 DD) and was sunk without scoring any hit (she fired torpedoes on a CL but missed).
180 miles ESE of PJ the SS I-174 missed the damaged DD Duncan sailing alone. Two other damaged Allied ships, the DD Warrington and the AP Jeremiah S Black, sank during the night in the area.

In the morning the Japanese submarine RO-63 first was chased by two DD (one on fire) 240 miles ESE of PJ but then found the damaged DD Gwin sailing alone and sank her with one torpedo.

But then weather was once again on the Allied side. Clouds covered the KB, OJ and PJ but not the Allied CV… and not the cripple TF that was only 120 miles northwest of OJ. This TF was supposed to be able to sail at 18 knots and was ordered to sail at full speed, so was planned to be at least 120 miles more west at dawn. And so the Japanese command had decided to keep the KB closer to PJ and to not cover the crippled BB and CA with CV. But the damaged ships only sailed 180 miles in two phases (while it should have done 420 at 18 knots, and was expected to have done 300) and paid heavily for that.

Because the three Allied CV TF that had spent the night 120 miles east of PJ reacted in the morning westwards to close on the Japanese CV, that didn’t react themselves and remained under clouds. And so the damaged BB and cruisers of the cripple TF were a perfect target for the Allied airmen that attacked them in 4 waves this morning:
_ 64 SBD, 26 TBM and 15 Barracuda escorted by 23 F6F and 6 Hellcat II
_ 10 TBM
_ 18 SBD and 5 TBM escorted by 6 F6F
_ 7 TBM escorted by 4 F6F
The damaged Japanese warships had no air cover and were badly punished. The BB Kirishima took a total of 9 torpedoes and sank, the Musashi was heavily damaged by 6 torpedoes (and also reported two dud hits) and the CA Maya took a bomb that destroyed one of her main turrets. Japanese AA fire was only able to shot down 2 TBM, 2 Barracuda and 1 SBD, while another SBD and a F6F were lost operationally.

The afternoon was not far better. The KB was still covered by clouds but was the only cloud spot on the whole area. The Allied CVE TF off PJ sent 5 TBM and 2 TBM escorted by 6 F6F and 5 FM-2 to finish the Musashi and the superbattleship was hit by two more torpedoes, capsized and sank. 35 SBD, 22 TBM and 8 Barracuda sent from the main Allied CV TF arrived to late to attack the battleship. Most crew searched her without success while some attacked the damaged cruisers in the same area, scoring a torpedo hit on the Maya (reported on fire) and on the Ashigara (heavily damaging her).

The Allied CV also attacked Japanese warships off PJ but lost cohesion during the flight and were met over the island by 72 Japanese fighters (20 Ki-61, 18 A6M3, 9 Ki-44, 9 A6M3a, 6 Irving, 5 Oscar II and 5 Rufe). The first Allied group to reach this area was 11 SBD escorted by 32 F6F and 6 Hellcat II. Allied fighters won the battle and for 11 losses (10 F6F and an Hellcat II) shot down 43 Japanese fighters (19 Ki-61, 9 Ki-44, 6 A6M3, 5 Oscar, 2 Irving and 2 Rufe) and opened the way to the SBD (only one was shot down by a Zero). The dive-bombers attacked the Japanese BB Haruna and scored two hits that bounced on her armor. AA fire shot down a SBD, and a F6F was lost operationally. After this raid two other Allied groups, 4 TBM and 18 SBD, arrived unescorted but were repulsed by the remaining CAP that shot down 4 SBD and 2 TBM without loss.

PJ airmen also tried to retaliate and 19 Ki-49 were sent under escort by 10 Ki-61, 9 Irving, 8 A6M3, 5 Ki-44, 3 Oscar and 2 Rufe to attack Allied CVE just off the island. The raid was intercepted by 5 F6F and 3 FM-2 that shot down without loss 2 Ki-49, 1 Tony, 1 Oscar, 1 Tojo, 1 Iriving and 1 Zero. The remaining bombers missed the CVE Sangamon and Corregidor and lost two more of their number to AA fire.

A last battle took place in the evening when fighters of both sides fought each other around Topsy bringing troops from Toyohara to PJ. Once again Allied pilots won, scoring 11 kills (5 Ki-61, 4 Irving, 1 Ki-44 and 1 Oscar) for 6 losses (4 FM-2 and 2 F6F).

The only good news for air losses were on the patrol front. Despite being covered by clouds, KB was able to fly CAP, scoring numerous kills, and patrol, allowing a Val to hit the SS Corvina off PJ. Allied aircraft flew far more patrols but only sank a barge off PJ. Japanese fighters shot down 22 of them (9 TBM, 7 SOC-3 Seagull, 3 SBD, 2 TBF and 1 Barracuda) while only 5 Japanese crew (2 G4M1, 2 Emily and 1 Dinah III) were lost to the Allied CAP (mainly because KB patrols were limited in range and didn’t reach the Allied CV). By the way the KB escort repulsed in the evening the SS USS Redfin and scored 4 near-misses on her. And the SS USS Hackleback, heavily damaged by CV airmen two days ago, sank off OJ in the evening.

A last thing that was not a good omen for the future: Allied aircraft finally flew to OJ and the daily recon reported that 18 Corsairs flew CAP there today.

The day was already a bad one for the IJN but now arrived the day naval battles off PJ. Once again the weather had cancelled most of the air raids planned to support the surface fleet, and it had to fight alone. After the night’s battles, Tanaka had still two BB (Kongo and Haruna), the CA Kako, three CL (Noshiro, Yura and Oi) and the DD Kiyonami. Not much opposition was expected, but the Allied surprised the Japanese by being able to throw a new surface fleet in the battle, with four CL (St Louis, Helena, Phoenix and Nashville), 6 US DD and a DMS. The number of Allied warships had been underestimated by the Japanese staff.

But the biggest surprise today was not the fact that these ships were there to cover the Allied convoy: it was that they won the battle that was fought in two rounds.

During the first one, the Allied warships charged the Japanese line and closed from 17 000 to 3000 yards before retiring in order. At close range the faster rate of fire of the American CL was devastating and they left the CA Kako, the CL Yura (also hit by a torpedo) and Oi and the DD Kiyonami heavily damaged and both Japanese BB on fire after taking more than twenty shells each. Japanese torpedoes had all missed and gunfire had only heavily damaged 2 DD and set on fire 2 CL, 1 DD and the DMS.

At this stage the Allied admiral had already fulfilled his orders to protect the convoy but he saw the opportunity to do far more. He reorganized his ships and pursued the burning Japanese ships. A very long gunnery exchange (37 rounds) was then fought between 23 and 8 000 yards. The price paid by the Allied TF was heavy: the destroyer USS Morris, Patterson, Lang and Sterett and the DMS Perry were sunk, the CL Nashville was on fire and all other ships (CL St Louis, Helena and Phoenix and DD Jarvis and Stack) were heavily damaged. But it was worth it. Allied gunfire sank the DD Kiyonami (hit by a total of 16 shells in both rounds), the CL Oi (57 hits), Yura (19 hits, and a torpedo) and Noshiro (45 hits) and the CA Kako (49 hits), but also the BB Haruna, hit 65 times during the day but each time the shell didn’t penetrate. I never had seen a BB sunk by cumulative SYS and fire damage done by “bouncing” hits in WITP and couldn’t believe it when I saw the BB sink during the battle. Tanaka was lost with his flagship. Surviving such a defeat was not possible for the superstar of the IJN. The only remaining Japanese ship was the BB Kongo that had taken during the day 54 shells and 1 torpedo and was in a such port state (damage 74/54/49) that the IJN staff considered her as lost when reports were known. So the cost of the day was four battleships (3 already sunk and one doomed), a CA, four CL and a DD. The Japanese battleline will never recover from today’s losses.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 135 men, Japanese ones 477 men and 8 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 237 083 men (+1106), 2461 guns (+26) and 530 vehicles (+2) for 4737 AV (+29) against 99 952 men (+332), 808 guns (+10) and 6 tankettes for 1802 AV (+12).

The evening report of PJ showed no more damage and fortification of 5, 85%, 425 engineers, and 29 152 supplies (-1378). AA defences reported to have shot down two PBM Mariner flying recon over the base.

OJ showed damage 0/6 (airfield/port) and recons reported 15 units (+5) with 29 600 men (+5 700), 57 guns (+4) and 113 vehicles (+59). Worst was the fact that Allied aircraft were now based here: 44 fighters and 9 patrol aircraft. Most of the landed troops were probably air base and Seabee units. So the plan to retake the island was still doable, despite the heavy naval losses.

The remain of the escort TF attacked today by Allied CV (5 CA, 4 DD) will continue to sail to Shikka. From the remains of Tanaka TF, four ships (CA Chokai and Mogami, CL Jintsu and a DD) will sail also to Shikka. The BB Kongo will dock in PJ to fight fires.

At the end of the day PJ had 92 aircraft able to fly CAP (including Rufe and Irving) and 81 available. An Oscar II Chutai reduced to two pilots flew to Mukden and was degraded to training status and rebuilt with rookie pilots. 19 replacement fighters arrived in PJ to reinforce the base. They will probably have to fight a CV attack tomorrow against the Kongo. By the way transport flights to PJ will stop tomorrow to avoid CAP vs CAP battle.

The KB will follow tomorrow the warships leaving PJ. Fighters will fly 90% CAP, attack crew will fly 100% naval search to chase Allied submarines and do sneaky attacks on Allied ships.

Betties of Shikka and Toyohara received orders to no more fly naval attack, but only naval search due to the Allied Corsairs in OJ. Two Chutai will bombard OJ airfield tonight.

The three Japanese submarines sailing between Kuriles and Aleutians islands will continue to chase cripples. A BB and several cruisers were possible targets for them.

Both ARs of Etoforu Jima arrived in Shikka without being attacked.

In Toyohara the troops gathered for the OJ operation (2nd, 18th, 48th and 116th Div, 21st and 25th Eng Rgt, 1st, 2nd and 3rd Yokosuka SNLF) were now aboard and the ships had loaded supplies, while AK with only supplies were also with the fleet but they will wait for the KB to come back.

OJ had probably not much reinforced ground defences but now had three PT flotilla (more than 10 PT each…) and Corsairs to defend itself. It will need an all-out naval and air offensive to clear the way to troop transports, and even that will be difficult. What could be done with the remaining Japanese forces will be a swarm a small transport TF, with the available DD as hunter-killed groups escorting them. For the Corsairs an all-out air offensive from Japanese LBA might tire them and allow for a KB air attack that will close the AF. Then a one-day landing should be enough to drop enough troops to take the base.

Given the loss of the control of sea and air in the area, this “desesperate” counter-attack was thought to be the only chance to neutralize OJ before the situation became unbearable. With a quarter of a million Allied troops in PJ the base may still hold if it is supplied by sea and to be supplied by sea OJ should be retaken.

Heavy losses were expected in LBA units during the OJ operation. So reinforcements were ordered from other parts of the empire.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 9 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 14 P-38G bombed Rabaul, and scored 9 hits on the runways.

Allied patrol aircraft and a raid by 10 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Kiriwima sank three Japanese barges off Torokina, Bougainville, during the day.

Rabaul reported damage of 91/55/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 534 supplies (-0) for 4715 (-16) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 31%, +4%) and Wewak finally repaired all damage, and still had only 37 remaining supplies.

The convoy seen south of Gili Gili was lost of view but both submarines will continue to search it and the Naka and her escort DD will continue to sail westwards to arrive in position tomorrow. 19 Betties flew from Lunga to Norfolk Island to fly naval search to assist this operation.

Timor-DEI-Australia

During the night the Dutch AP Van Rees, damaged by Japanese warships, last night, sank off Kai Island.

During the day 4 B-24J from Darwin tried to attack Japanese ships off Kendari but the heavy CAP (75 Ki-44, 18 A6M3 and 11 A6M3a) shot all of them down at the cost of a Tojo lost to return fire.

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 13 B-25C from Derby and 27 B-24J and 23 B-24D from Darwin that did 35 casualties and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 45 on the runways, Dili was the target of 36 B-17E escorted by 16 Kittyhawk III from Darwin that did 39 casualties and scored 2 hits on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 15 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 13 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 11 Kittyhawk III and reported 65 casualties and 2 hit on supplies and 8 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Lautem.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 59% (+5%)), Koepang had damage 38/65/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 86/70/0, Lautem 55/31/38, other bases undamaged.

The CA Furutaka and her escort will sail to Davao and will probably return to Japan. Only the damaged DD Sazanami now (43/3/1) will remain one more day in Kendari for emergency repairs.

Japanese airmen reported that the Allied convoy was back off Kai Island, but the surface TF was back there too.

17 Betty bombers left Kendari and flew to Toyohara to support the OJ campaign.

SRA

During the day the submarine HMS Truant attacked 60 miles SE of Sinkep Island a small convoy carrying resources from Toboali to Singapore. The small AK Sansei Maru was first heavily damaged by a torpedo. The escort (two APD) was unable to find the submarine that attacked again in the evening and achieved the damaged transport with two torpedoes and escaped unscathed.

The convoy carrying an IJA BF attacked yesterday arrived in Takao and started to unload.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 216 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 10 B-25J and 17 escorts from Ledo on the airfield (9 casualties, 3 hits on the airbase and 9 on the runways), 12 LRCAP sorties (by P-40N), 34 fighter-bombers, 80 bombers and 63 escorts from Ledo, Dimapur and Dacca against a division of the garrison (192 men and 6 guns hit). A Japanese Irving was shot down by an Allied fighter over Dacca and a Dinah III was shot by AA fire during recon flights, while a B-25C was lost operationally on the Allied side.

On the ground Allied artillery fired again at Myitkyina (where 2202 Japanese AV faced 2925 Allied) and hit 107 men and 2 guns. More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (79 Allied men hit), where 1085 Japanese AV (+0) faced 1717 Allied (-5).

The evening report showed damage of 70/65 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still 95 supplies (-25) for needs of 12 165 (-271). Lashio was damaged at 69/27 (airbase/runway), other bases were undamaged.

The Allied troops didn’t move today from Myitkyina. They were still 24 units near the city and 14 north of it. Recon aircraft flew to the hex south of Ledo and counted 3 more units here, probably returning to India for R&R.

The last two IJNAF flying units in Burma, 26 Betties and 12 A6M3, left Rangoon to go to Japan and take part in the OJ operation. The bombers flew directly to Toyohara, the fighters flew to Pescadores as a first step.

China

117 training and 31 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan against Chinese troops NW of Changsha, and hit 67 men for no loss.

35 Tojo and 32 Oscar II left Changsha and Wuhan to Japan to join the Kuriles campaign without having finished their op training program. A fighter of each type crashed on the way with its pilot. A Chutai of 12 Tony was also reaffected from China Army to Northern Force and flew from Lanchow to Seoul and will then go to PJ.

54 Zero pilots having finished basic training in Shanghai and Lanchow moved to Wuhan and Changsha to start operational training.

23 Ki-21 from Hanoi will bomb tomorrow Yunan airfield. Chinese bases will be bombed in the next weeks by IJAAF bombers to reduce Chinese supplies and delay the eventual move of Allied aircraft to this area. Three other groups (one of Ki-49, two of Ki-48) arrived in Kweiyang and Changsha to take part to this offensive.

Japan

After the recent heavy losses in DD, a change of priority was done in naval production. Both the CV Taiho and the sixth Unryu-CV, the Ikoma, were stopped. Four DD and 8 PC were accelerated, and two RO sub were restarted.

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Just in case: I just posted three posts after weeks of unactivity in this AAR... The two post above this one describe the worst defeat of Japan during the war, and also give an analysis of what the Japanese HQ decided to do after this serie of disasters.

10 October 1943

Northern Pacific

During the night, 8 Betty from Shikka and Toyohara bombed OJ airfield but missed.

The was no more battle (by lack of Japanese warships!!) and the Allied convoy unloaded some more men (without loss) on PJ before leaving at dawn.

During the night submarines of both sides found targets but didn’t score. The I-40’s torpedoes missed the damaged CA Pensacola 300 miles west of Kiska, while the SS USS Redfin was seen and chased by seven DD NW of OJ, but both submarines escaped undamaged.

The day was also quiet, as the Allied CV TF retired towards the Aleutians and heavy bombers were grounded by bad weather over their bases. There was no raid launched by either side but patrolling Vals of the KB scored one hit on the SS Batfish 180 miles ESE of Shikka, two on the SS S-33 NE of Shimushiru Jima and one on the damaged CA Louisville off OJ. Allied fighters (from OJ, where recon reported 20 F4F-4, 16 Corsair and 8 Kittyhawk I on CAP¨, but also from the CV) shot down in the area 4 Val, 2 Kate, 1 Emily and 1 G4M2 but lost a F6F to return fire.

Finally some good news reached the Japanese HQ in the evening: the submarine I-174 found the damaged CL Minneapolis 180 miles ESE of PJ and sank her with 3 torpedoes. At the same time the CL Helena sank 120 miles east of PJ from the damage received during her duel yesterday against the BB Haruna (that she won, by the way). And a new submarine, the USS Corvina, sank off OJ from the damage made by CV airmen (she was hit yesterday).

On the ground at PJ, Japanese artillery fired on Allied troops that launched a new deliberate attack that was a total failure (4545 Allied AV vs 1761 Japanese, adjusted to 2978 vs 11 404, so 0 to 1 and no fortification reduction). Allied losses were 4392 men, 216 guns and 9 tanks, Japanese ones 1268 men, 76 guns and 1 tank.

The evening report of PJ showed no more damage and fortification of 4, 98% (+13%), 425 engineers, and 26 699 supplies (-2453, for the first time the base is in pink status for supplies). Again the AA gunners reported to have shot down one of the PBM Mariner flying recon over the base.

OJ showed no more damage and recons reported 15 units (+5) with 28 800 men (-800), 67 guns (+10), 131 vehicles (+18), 50 fighters and 5 patrol aircraft. At the end of the day PJ had 110 aircraft able to fly CAP (including Rufe and Irving) and 100 available.

At the end of the day the naval situation was the following:
_ two convoys were still off PJ, with a small escort and no surface covering force
_ a convoy was also off OJ, and was protected by 3 PT TF and a SS. The badly damaged CA Louisville was also here, probably under escort by a DD.
_ the Allied CV and CVE TFs were 240 miles ESE of PJ, probably returning to Kiska to complete their air groups after the losses of the last days.
_ some convoys and TK TF were 60 and 120 miles of PJ, probably sailing back to Attu.
_ there were also a number of damaged ships between the Kuriles and the Aleutians.
_ nine submarines were seen today west of the Kuriles and two were damaged by KB aircraft

On the Japanese side the AO TF arrived in Shikka, where the three damage AO were docked while the other unloaded their cargo. Both escort TF made of damaged Japanese ships were 240 and 360 miles of Shikka, the latter being 120 miles NW of OJ and covered by the KB.

To land in OJ we will need to eliminate the PT boats off this island. With the US CV retreating it was decided to launch a first attack tonight. Two TF (first with the CA Nachi and 3 DD, second with the CL Agano and 3 DD) will sweep waters off OJ: the objectives of the attack were to sink PT, achieve the Louisville and if possible chase the Allied convoy off the island.

The KB will sail at full speed to Shikka to refuel and load replacement aircraft. The damaged ships will sail alone but should be out of range of Allied aircraft tomorrow.

37 Betties flew in the evening to PJ and with the local Helen will fly tomorrow naval search and attack at range 0, just in case Allied convoys will still be there.

Of the three Japanese submarines sailing between Kuriles and Aleutians islands two will continue to chase cripples between PJ and Attu, the last (the Glen-carrying I-40) will sail south and use her Glen to follow Allied moves. Two more RO submarines reached the area today from Japan and were now east of Etoforu Jima. Both were ordered to go near OJ to attack Allied ships in the area

In Toyohara the counter-invasion fleet was organised in two big transport TF (100 and 97 ships, each with an old 18-knot CL and an aircraft-empty CVE included to draw attacks away from the transport). These two TF will carry 108 000 men (infantry and combat engineers) to OJ, and also 82k supplies. A surface TF made of the CL Kuma and 6 DD, three ASW TFs and a TF made of 25 MSW will escort if. Also the CA Takao and 5 DD arriving from Tokyo will join the TF. Tomorrow the TF will sail to a position 60 miles east of Toyohara. The landing will be in 3-4 days.

Southern Pacific

The last three ML in Noumea sailed for the Gilberts and then will go to the Marianas. On the way they will lay their mines off Luganville.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 6 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 11 P-38G and 28 B-24D, 13 B-25C and 12 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 17 P-38G bombed Rabaul, did 8 casualties, and scored 4 hits on the airbase and 60 on the runways, while 53 B-25J from Lae escorted by 14 P-38G attacked Wewak, did 14 casualties and scored 7 hits on the airbase, 6 on supplies and 20 on the runways. A B-24D and a B-25C were shot down by AA fire over Rabaul, while an Allied fighter shot down in the area a Dinah III.

Allied patrol aircraft sank a Japanese barge west of Buka during the day. 12 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Kiriwima attacked this convoy and sank another, while 7 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Madang attacked in the morning another barge convoy off Kavieng and sank one, and attacked another off Hollandia in the afternoon and damaged it.

Rabaul reported damage of 100/60/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 534 supplies (-0) for 4699 (-16) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 36%, +5%) and Wewak had damage 1/0/0, and only 5 remaining supplies.

The convoy seen south of Gili Gili two days ago was again not seen today. Both submarines will continue to search it tomorrow while the Naka and her escort DD will sail to a waiting position 360 miles east of Brisbane tomorrow. An Emily from Norfolk Island will recon this port while other aircraft of the base will fly naval search. It the convoy could not be intercepted at sea the cruiser will sail to the port to attack any ships being here. It will probably be totally unexpected by the Allied and defenses should be weak.

Timor-DEI-Australia

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 27 B-24J and 24 B-24D from Darwin that did 12 casualties and scored 2 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 35 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 31 B-17E and 14 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 26 Kittyhawk III and reported 10 casualties and 1 hit on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 19 on the runways. A B-17E was lost in an accident.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 65% (+6%)), Koepang had damage 44/79/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 86/59/0, Lautem 58/34/38, other bases undamaged.

The damaged DD Sazanami (now at 41/0/0) left Kendari for repairs in Singapore.

Japanese airmen reported that saw today off Kai Island only a surface TF.

Burma

Allied airmen flew only 121 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 44 B-25J and 59 escorts from Ledo, Imphal, Jorhat and Kohima on the airfield (43 casualties, 3 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 32 on the runways) and 18 LRCAP sorties (by P-40N). Two P-40N were lost in accidents while on the Japanese side a Dinah III flying a recon over India was shot down by AA fire.

On the ground Allied artillery hit 38 men and 1 gun at Myitkyina (where 2193 Japanese AV (-9) faced 2963 Allied (+38)). More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (104 Allied men and 3 guns hit), where 1084 Japanese AV (-1) faced 1721 Allied (+4).

The evening report showed damage of 74/67 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still no more supplies (-95) for needs of 12 078 (-87). Lashio was damaged at 69/18 (airbase/runway), other bases were undamaged.

The Allied troops didn’t move again from Myitkyina. They were still 24 units near the city and 14 north of it. It was now probable that the Allied troops remaining were the freshest ones and will continue to besiege the city.

Allied engineers expanded Dimanpur airfield (used for strikes against Myitkyina garrison) to size 5.

China

20 Ki-21 from Hanoi bombed Yunan airfield, doing 12 casualties and scoring 2 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 16 on the runways.

147 training and 42 escort sorties were flown from Wuhan and Changsha against Chinese troops NW of Changsha, and hit 31 men for no loss.

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RE: 10 October 1943: Japan will continue to fight - 10/28/2007 1:57:34 AM   
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Good to see you back - i've been quietly following your exploits.
sorry that you got ALL the bad luck these last three days (8-10 Oct)

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11 October 1943: SS I-174 avenged Japan’s losses - 10/28/2007 1:21:24 PM   
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11 October 1943

Northern Pacific

During the night, 18 Betty from Shikka and Toyohara bombed OJ airfield and destroyed a Kittyhawk I on the ground, did 21 casualties and scored a runway hit.

This night two TF (one with the CA Nachi and 3 DD, the other with the CL Natori and 3 DD) were sent off OJ to chase Allied PT boats. During battles in Southern Pacific such little TFs had proven to be the most efficient against PT and so the tactic was used again here.
But they didn’t meet PT boats first. The Natori TF managed to surprise the Allied convoy still unloading here (and strong of 5 DD, 4 DE, 2 DMS, 5 MSW, 1 AP, 18 AK and 22 LCI). The Allied escort repulsed the attack and scored some hits on each Japanese ship, setting on fire the DD Arashi and Hibiki, but it was still a Japanese victory because the destroyer USS Hughes and Ringgold were sunk by shells and torpedoes during the battle. Only one AP was hit once by a Japanese shell.
But then the Allied PT flotillas altered by the battle attacked… and proved that the Japanese tactics that worked in 1942 didn’t work any more against 1943-PT.
The Nachi TF was attacked by 10 PT and torpedoes sank the DD Yamagumo and Oyashio while 20mm set on fire the last DD of the TF, the Otori. Only one PT was sunk by Japanese fire. The Nachi and her escort retired at full speed.
The Natori TF fate was even worse. Just after the convoy battle it was attacked by two PT flotillas (each strong of 12 PT) and if the Natori escaped undamaged, her three escort DD (Hibiki, Arashi and Yugure) were heavily damaged in the first clash and sunk in the second by AA guns and torpedoes. None of the Allied PT was hit in these two clashes.
And so five more Japanese DD were lost, to sink two American DD and a PT, neither of both being in short supply on the Allied side, while the IJN is running out of destroyers.

The day was better. There was again no raid launched by any side, and only patrol activity. The Allied CAP over OJ shot down five Japanese aircraft (2 Dinah III, 2 Betty and a Alf) while AA fire shot down a PBM Mariner over PJ. A Emily attacked and hit the damaged DD Kimberly 240 miles ESE of PJ.

But the real hero of the day was the submarine I-174. She had sunk the CL Minneapolis yesterday but did better today by sinking two damaged ships 240 miles ESE of PJ, the CL St Louis in the morning and the DD Jarvis in the evening.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 17 men and 1 gun, Japanese ones 223 men and 3 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 230 728 men (-6355 in two days), 2197 guns (-264 in two days) and 526 vehicles (-4 in two days) for 4234 AV (-503 in two days) against 96 474 men (-3478 in two days), 708 guns (-100 in two days) and 4 tankettes (-2 in two days) for 1732 AV (-70 in two days).

The evening report of PJ showed no damage and fortification of level 5 (+1), 12% (+14% in fact), 425 engineers, and 26 839 supplies (+140). At the end of the day PJ had 111 aircraft able to fly CAP (including Rufe and Irving) and 103 available. 12 more Tony arrived in the evening from China.

OJ showed no more damage and recons reported 15 units with 29 400 men (+600), 61 guns (-6), 187 vehicles (+56). The aircraft based here were probably three fighter squadrons, and no patrol aircraft, as none was seen in the area and more important none saw Japanese ships at sea.

At the end of the day the naval situation was the following:
_ both Allied convoys had left PJ waters and were now 240 miles more east
_ the convoy attacked off OJ during the night was NE of PJ in the evening, probably retreating to the Aleutians. The base itself was still protected by 3 PT TF (now 31 PT, with between 5 and 10 having expanded all or part of their torpedoes) and a SS. The badly damaged CA Louisville was still here, probably under escort by a DD.
_ the Allied CV and CVE TFs were 60 miles west of Kiska. They will probably reach it tomorrow, refuel and recomplete air groups tomorrow evening and might be back in Kuriles in 3 days.
_ all ships and TF seen yesterday between Kuriles and Aleutians were still sailing eastwards. One was probably the badly damaged BB West Virginia slowly sailing back to Kiska.
_ three submarines were seen today west of the Kuriles.

So far the score of the three Japanese submarines sailing between Kuriles and Aleutians islands n this phase of the battle is excellent. In four days, the I-40 sank a DD (and missed a CA), the RO-63 a DD, the I-174 two CL and a DD (and missed a DD). At the same time none of them was hit. The I-40 had already sailed to safer waters, and this evening the I-174 received orders to sail to Japan to receive a hero welcome (and also reload torpedoes). Only the RO-63 will remain in the area and will try to find and attack the damaged BB reported by airmen.

By the way six new submarines will reach the area in the two next days or were already there. One will go tomorrow to OJ to seek the Louisville and achieve her (OJ only had a size 1 port and so the cruiser won’t be protected).

All CV TFs of the KB reached Shikka and refuelled there. Pilots and crew without aircraft received new ones for a total of 41 A6M5, 9 Val and 1 Kate, bringing the “power” of the KB to 265 fighters (220 serviceable), 135 dive bombers (124) and 142 torpedo bombers (141).

The counter-invasion fleet was now east of Toyohara and received orders to sail at full speed towards OJ. The KB will join it at sea tomorrow and will cover it from Allied LBA. The fleet should be in range of Allied patrols from Aleutians and will probably be attacked by submarines but should use at his best the fact that the Allied CV are not there.

A general air offensive on OJ was planned since several days, but the KB will be too far tomorrow. The plan then will be to send heavily escorted raids from KB and OJ, and then to follow them by a general attack by Betties from Toyohara and Shikka under escort by Oscars. But tomorrow OJ will be bombed only at night, with a Chutai now based in PJ joining the attack. Other bombers based in PJ will fly extensive naval search tomorrow. The general air offensive will be launched the day after.

The plan for the landing will be to arrive during the day and to launch attacks on PT from the air to reduce their efficiency, then land half of the troops in the evening. The landing will then continue during the night before PT could strike again and this second day Japanese troops will attack while paratroops will be launched on the Allied base from Toyohara…

36 Ki-44 and 12 A6M3 arrived in Etorofu Jima to serve of reserve during the battle.

Japanese intelligence learned today that the Allied AK Empire Moonbean, torpedoed on 30 August off PJ by CV airmen, was abandoned by her crew and scuttled some days later while trying to reach Attu.

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 10 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 9 P-38G and 26 B-24D, 22 B-25C and 3 B-17E from Dobadura escorted by 15 P-38G bombed Rabaul, did 39 casualties, and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 51 on the runways, while 32 B-25J from Lae escorted by 15P-38G attacked Wewak, and scored 1 hit on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 11 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Rabaul and two B-25J and a P-38G were lost operationally.

A barge convoy off Kavieng was attacked by a patrolling B-25J and 12 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Kiriwima and lost 3 barges sunk. 10 other Beaufighter Mk 21 from Madang attacked another barge convoy off Rabaul but missed. 7 from Madang attacked a barge off Aitape in the morning and returned in the afternoon with an escort of 8 Corsair and sank her.

Rabaul reported damage of 100/71/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 457 supplies (-77) for 4693 (-6) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 40%, +4%) and Wewak repaired all damage, but only had 37 remaining supplies (+32).

Both submarines searching east of Rockhampton found no target for the Naka TF, while airmen reported stronger naval defences than expected (including a “CA”, 2 DE, 3 PT and 1 SS for identified ships). Worst was the fact that the Alf of the cruiser flew a recon to Brisbane (I forgot to check what orders it had, it was recon without a target assigned) and was seen over the city, alerting the Allied command, and so the Naka raid was cancelled and she was ordered to sail back to Noumea, as will do both submarines assisting her.

Timor-DEI-Australia

During the night the American submarine S-32 tried to attack SE of Menado the Japanese surface TF sailing north from Kendari but was seen and chased by the 8 DD of this TF. She escaped after only one near-miss.

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 15 B-25C from Derby and 20 B-24J and 15 B-24D from Darwin that did 24 casualties, disabled a gun and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 5 on supplies and 34 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 39 B-17E and 15 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 26 Kittyhawk III and reported 43 casualties, a disabled gun and 3 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 43 on the runways.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 70% (+5%)), Koepang had damage 57/87/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 86/48/0, Lautem 66/55/38, other bases undamaged.

Burma

Allied airmen flew 770 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 46 B-25J and 55 escorts from Ledo, Imphal, Jorhat and Kohima on the airfield (127 casualties, 1 hit on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 62 on the runways), 298 fighter-bombers, 288 bombers and 83 escorts from Imphal, Jorhat, Ledo, Kohima, Dimapur and Dacca against 4 divisions of the garrison (612 men and 15 guns hit). Four P-40N, two P-40E, a B-25J and a Vengeance I were lost in accidents.

On the ground Allied artillery hit 42 men and 1 gun at Myitkyina (where 2167 Japanese AV (-26) faced 2998 Allied (+35)). More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (132 Allied men hit), where 1083 Japanese AV (-1) faced 1719 Allied (-2).

The evening report showed damage of 76/79 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still zero supplies for needs of 12 281(+203). Lashio was damaged at 69/8 (airbase/runway), other bases were undamaged.

China

20 Ki-21 from Hanoi bombed Yunan airfield, doing 21 casualties and scoring 1 hit on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 20 on the runways.

40 training and 10 escort sorties were flown from Changsha against Chinese troops NW of Changsha, and hit nothing for one operational loss (an A6M3a).

A Ki-49 Sentai based in Kweiyang will bombard Chengtu airfield tomorrow.

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12 October 1943: Shoho was torpedoed - 10/28/2007 3:53:18 PM   
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12 October 1943

After the losses of the last days, the Japanese surface and submarine fleet had been very seriously depleted. A survey reported the following number:

Operationnal (< 10 SYS damage): 1 old BB, 3 CA, 2 CL, 3 old 18-knot CL, 56 DD, 40 SS
Needing repair (SYS damage between 10 and 50): 2 BB, 5 CA, 6 CL, 14 DD, 13 SS
Needing heavy repair (SYS > 50): 1 BB (Kongo, stranded in PJ), 5 CA, 1 CL, 13 DD (including 4 at 99 SYS also stranded in PJ)

The BB Ise and Hyuga being rebuilt to carry more seaplanes in Osaka could be added to these numbers.

Northern Pacific

During the night, 8 Betty from Shikka and Toyohara and 4 other from PJ bombed OJ airfield but missed. One G4M1 hit by AA fire ditched on the way back.

Japanese submarines were still busy. This night 240 miles ESE of PJ the I-174 attacked a SC TF but missed. The was then chased by 5 SC but escaped undamaged. Off OJ the RO-105 sent to achieve the CA Louisville didn’t find her but met the damaged destroyer USS Frazier and sank her with two torpedoes. During the day, the I-174 was again chased by four SC and again escaped while the RO-63 sank the damaged DD Woodworth 180 miles west of Kiska.

But American submarines also scored today. In the morning two of them, the Devilfish and the Batfish, chased the KB 180 miles NW of Shimushiru Jima. The Batfish missed a destroyer and was then chased by seven DD but wasn’t hit. The Devilfish was first chased by 6 MSW that scored 3 near-misses on her but then managed to close on the CVL Shoho and torpedoed her twice, setting her on fire. Five DD then chased her but only scored a near-miss.

That didn’t stop the air patrols launched by the KB that concentrated on the Allied ships off OJ. The Allied CAP here shot down 3 Val, 3 G4M2, 1 Kate, 1 Emily and 1 Dinah III but Japanese airmen reported that the convoy attacked yesterday by Japanese warships was back off OJ. More interesting they found three crippled ships off the base, the CA Louisville and the submarines Dace and S-33, hit all of them with bombs and all three sank during the day.

After two quiet days, Allied heavy bombers returned to attack PJ airfield. 95 PB4Y and 8 B-24J from Kiska raided it on the afternoon and were intercepted by 60 Japanese fighters (17 A6M3, 14 Ki-61, 10 Irving, 9 A6M3a, 6 Rufe and 4 Ki-44). The bombers suffered heavy losses (31 PB4Y and 3 B-24J shot down by the CAP, and a PB4Y shot down by AA) but none turned back and they destroyed 6 fighters in the air with return fire (2 A6M3, 2 A6M3a, 1 Ki-44 and 1 Rufe) and 27 aircraft on the ground (12 Ki-61, 6 G4M1, 3 A6M3, 1 Rufe, 1 Irving, 1 A6M3a, 1 Ki-44, 1 G4M2 and 1 Ki-49). The bombs disabled 91 men and 2 guns and scored 15 hits on the airbase, 2 on supplies and 68 on the runways. Three more Japanese fighters (2 A6M3 and 1 A6M3a) were wrecked while landing on the cratered runways.

On the ground at PJ, both sides exchanged artillery fire. Allied losses were 18 men, Japanese ones 84 men and 8 guns. Allied troops on the island numbered 231 994 men (+1266), 2228 guns (+31) and 535 vehicles (+9) for 4294 AV (+60) against 96 570 men (+96), 718 guns (+10) and 4 tankettes for 1751 AV (+19).

The evening report of PJ showed damage of 13/27/0 (airbase/runways/port) and fortification of level 5, 12%, 420 engineers (-5), and 25 354 supplies (-1485). At the end of the day PJ had 98 aircraft able to fly CAP (including Rufe and Irving) and 54 available.

OJ showed no damage and recons reported 15 units with 30 620 men (+1220), 69 guns (+8), 226 vehicles (+39). Again no Allied patrol aircraft seemed to be based here, and the 52 aircraft reported were all fighters. The Allied convoy that returned to OJ unloaded more PT… Now four PT TF, all with 10+ PT, were counted off this base. And Allied engineers expanded the airfield of size 2 today. The nut will be even harder to crack than expected. The hope is that patrol AC and FB will be sent to OJ rather than more fighters…

The plan to invade Onnekotan Jima is the following. Tomorrow all available aircraft will be used to crush OJ AF. The day after the convoy will arrive in daylight to try to reduce the danger of the PT boats. Japanese fighters will then be used in defence while bombers will try to attack PT boats to burn their op points and if possible sink some. The next night troops will continue to land and the 3rd day paratroops will be launched from Toyohara while the landed troops will launch a shock attack. The estimated cost of the operation was 50 ships, hundred of AC and probably a half division drowned, but to eliminate the new Allied base it will be worth it. The great unknown is if the Allied CV will react tomorrow or be one day late, taking more time to complete their air groups…

This evening several air groups moved to prepare the battle. The Betty Daitai of PJ left the base for Etoforu Jima (EJ) to leave more place for more useful aircraft, and 36 Ki-44 arrived from EJ and 9 Dinah III from Japan. The latter, drawn from a training unit, will fly tomorrow to Kiska to check if Allied CV moved or not. 27 Ki-21 also arrived in EJ from Japan, ready to fly to PJ the day after. And 63 A6M3a flew from Mukden to Sapporo to be used as a reserve. These units had all experience 51 and should have gone to China for operational training but will be needed here first.

The first attack on OJ AF will be launched from PJ, with 15 Ki-49 escorted by 79 fighters, mainly on sweep. They were expected to be decimated but will at least fatigue, if not decimate in return the Allied CAP, opening the way for the next attacks.
These will be launched from Sakhalin, with 118 Betty from Toyohara and 25 Ki-49 from Shikka, escorted by a total of 177 Oscar II also mainly flying sweep.

The KB, the troop convoys and the surface and ASW TF escorting them will move tomorrow to 120 miles west of OJ. All KB attack aircraft will have orders to attack Allied ships at range 2 and if none is seen to bomb OJ AF in the afternoon. KB fighters will fly 50% CAP.
Before these orders were given the CVL Shoho (damage 45/31/15) was detached at full speed to Etorofu Jima with orders to disband there. Two DD will escort her. 11 A6M5 and 11 Kate aboard her will be unavailable for the battle, leaving the KB with 266 fighters (239 available), 132 dive bombers (130 available) and 130 torpedo bombers (127 available)

Four submarines (I-178 and RO-33, 63 and 105) were ordered to patrol in a line W of Kiska that was the most probable path of the Allied CV fleet towards the Kurile. So far trying to attack Allied CV had proved suicidal but everything should be attempted to delay the Allied CV to return to OJ area too soon.

More west ten damaged Japanese ships (5 CA, 1 CL and 4 DD) reached safely Shikka and were docked for emergency repairs. Two other CA and a DD will arrive in some days. In PJ the only ships able to sail, the DD Harukaze (damage 60/21/0, speed 13) will try tomorrow to flee towards EJ. It was discussed to send with her the BB Kongo (damage 80/52/0, speed 6) but she will be too vulnerable if Allied CV come and may draw more bombs in PJ port than at sea. The four other DD in the port have all 99 SYS and are little more than wrecks…

New Guinea-New Britain- Solomon Islands

In the afternoon 12 B-25C from Kiriwima escorted by 19 P-38G and 19 B-24D, 14 B-17E and 12 B-25C from Dobadura escorted by 5 P-38G bombed Rabaul, did 21 casualties, and scored 3 hits on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 55 on the runways, while 44 B-25J from Lae without escort for once attacked Wewak, did 11 casualties and scored 4 hits on the airbase, 4 on supplies and 10 on the runways. A B-25C was shot down by AA fire over Rabaul and a P-38G was lost operationally. On the Japanese side two Alf based in Wewak were shot down by Allied fighters based in Madang while flying naval search.

Allied airmen continue to sink more barges: five off Rabaul (victims of patrol aircraft and 24 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Kiriwima), one more south (sunk by a patrolling B-24D) and one off Wewak (under attack by 7 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Madang)

Rabaul reported damage of 100/76/28 (airbase/runway/port) and 725 supplies (+268) for 4701 (+8) required, Kavieng had still no damage and was building again fortifications (6, 45%, +5%) and Wewak repaired all damage, but only had 33 remaining supplies (-4).

The 39 Betties based in Lunga and Norfolk Island were transferred to Palau to serve as a reserve and to rest some time. Emilies from Norfolk and Lunga will start a serie of recon over Australian bases and a Betty raid on Cooktown resource centers (that are no more defended by CAP) might be attempted in some time from Hollandia.

Allied engineers expanded the airfield of Madang to size 4.

Timor-DEI-Australia

In the afternoon, Koepang was attacked by 24 B-25C from Derby and 20 B-24J and 12 B-24D from Darwin that did 6 casualties and scored 1 hit on the airbase and 33 on the runways, and Lautem was attacked by 35 B-17E and 11 B-25C from Darwin escorted by 26 Kittyhawk III and reported 11 casualties and 2 hits on supplies and 25 on the runways. A B-25C was lost operationally.

A barge convoy off Lautem was attacked by 10 Beaufighter Mk 21 from Darwin that sank one barge and heavily damaged another with bombs.

The evening area report listed the airfield status as: Maumere was OK (fort 4, 76% (+6%)), Koepang had damage 58/96/0 (system/runway/port), Dili 86/37/0, Lautem 68/57/38, other bases undamaged.

In the evening 24 Nick flew from Macassar to Maumere to fly LRCAP over Koepang tomorrow. And 22 Oscar II also left Macassar and flew to Menado. From there they will LRCAP tomorrow a convoy unloading in Morotai a small base force and a garrison unit.

SRA

A convoy will load 27k oil and 14k resources in Palembang and bring them to Singapore.

Burma

Bad weather closed many Allied airfield and Allied airmen flew only 30 sorties today, all in Myitkyina area: 11 B-25J and 11 escorts from Ledo on the airfield (1 hit on the airbase, 1 on supplies and 1 on the runways) and 8 LRCAP sorties (by P-40N). A P-40N was lost operationally.

On the ground Allied artillery hit 44 men and 2 guns at Myitkyina (where 2166 Japanese AV (-1) faced 3028 Allied (+30)). More west Japanese guns pounded Allied troops in Katha (53 Allied men and 2 guns hit), where 1082 Japanese AV (-1) faced 1713 Allied (-6).

The evening report showed damage of 78/75 (airbase/runway) in Myitkyina. In this town there were still zero supplies for needs of 11 935(-346). Lashio was damaged at 67/0 (airbase/runway), other bases were undamaged.

China

145 training and 42 escort sorties were flown from Changsha and Wuhan against Chinese troops NW of Changsha, and hit 33 men for four operational losses (two Val, a Kate and an Oscar II).

The Ki-49 Sentai based in Kweiyang didn’t fly today but was ordered again to bombard Chengtu airfield tomorrow.

Japan

A convoy started to load 56k supplies in Sendai and will bring them to the Mariannas. And an ASW group left Maizuru to go to Shikka and bring back damaged cruisers back to Japan.

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RE: 12 October 1943: Shoho was torpedoed - 10/28/2007 4:11:04 PM   
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Hi all,

Fantastic to have you back anf continuing this great AAR!

Sorry for Imperial Japanese looses... this is the first time the Gods of war turned their back on brave japanese fighting men... <SIGH>


Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: 12 October 1943: Shoho was torpedoed - 10/28/2007 4:14:47 PM   
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Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

After the losses of the last days, the Japanese surface and submarine fleet had been very seriously depleted. A survey reported the following number:

Operationnal (< 10 SYS damage): 1 old BB, 3 CA, 2 CL, 3 old 18-knot CL, 56 DD, 40 SS
Needing repair (SYS damage between 10 and 50): 2 BB, 5 CA, 6 CL, 14 DD, 13 SS
Needing heavy repair (SYS > 50): 1 BB (Kongo, stranded in PJ), 5 CA, 1 CL, 13 DD (including 4 at 99 SYS also stranded in PJ)

The BB Ise and Hyuga being rebuilt to carry more seaplanes in Osaka could be added to these numbers.


Darn... this is really really gravely serious...


Leo "Apollo11"

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