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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/1/2007 7:42:36 PM   
Nemo121


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Status: offline 		Personally speaking if you are running into a bug in which no air action is possible then the absolute minimum that AndyMac should do is agree to simply stand down the entire Red Air Force and agree not to base ANY Allied planes out of their bases. It is silly to pretend this is any sort of reasonable "game" when you can't launch attacks and he can.

Ideally he'd stand the whole theatre down but I doubt he will do this... He wants to win and he has made so many mistakes with his CVs and amphibious landings that now this may be his only option for a guaranteed win within the timeframe.


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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/1/2007 7:53:30 PM   
Gen.Hoepner


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Status: offline 		Agree. Ask for a stop of the air ops in that theatre

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/1/2007 8:21:33 PM   
pauk


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ahh PzB didn't realised that was Mech corps......

i suggest game on hold until experts solve (lets hope) this problem... I'm not for such hybrid solution as Nemo121 proposed...



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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/1/2007 8:32:06 PM   
jumper

 

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Status: offline 		Regarding the ground movement, I have experienced something similar in my PBEM. As japanese I have surrounded 80k allied troops in Darwin. I had tank regiments on all hexes around it just to be sure that enemy will not retreat to wilderness, but made a mistake and sent the tank regiment sitting on the railway south of Darwin to the city to join my 3 divisons there and launched shock attack. I thought the "J" is satisfying to prevent allied movement from shared hex. In the same turn my oponent tried to order retreat with the target base Charters Towers. And it WORKED!!! Despite the fact that half of the railway between Darwin and Charter Towers was in my hands (signed by two NLF advancing to Charter Towers to "J"). The Darwin was taken, as there were no defenders, because the whole enemy force marched south to the "J" hex in the same moment as my 100k troops attacked north. Somehow it happened they didn´t meet each other :-) We just changed the positions and now it was me, who was surrounded in Darwin with 2 australian division blocking the railway.. my reaction was "WTF!!!!"..

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/1/2007 8:33:50 PM   
Nemo121


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Status: offline 		Do you think the experten will have time to fiddle with the code on this so close to December 7th?

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/1/2007 9:10:23 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Thanx for the input guys!

The reason why I'm not too keen on just standing down all air ops and go on with the show is that
Manchukuo is the _one_ theater were Japan has complete air supremacy. We will loose a lot of points from not
destroying  the Red AF, bombing resources, industry and interdicting enemy LCU. The latter is vital to slow the Red Steam Roller down
and maybe inflict enough fatigue and disruption to tip the scale in our favor in THE most important battle (e.g. for Harbin).

We've already lost valuable time, for 10 days the AF should have been pounding ground units and hitting Red airfields.
Have to reach an agreement with Andy about what to do....


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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/2/2007 1:08:33 AM   
trollelite

 

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/2/2007 1:26:58 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Andy came with some suggestions and I sent mine back.
In short;

We will fight for Harbin without air forces.
The Red Air Force will stand down.

If Harbin falls I will retreat the Manchukuo Armies to Korea and then we will stand down all further combat.
Andy suggested that no army units should be moved out of Manchukuo but I said that my Southern Area Army units
have been moved to Manchukuo to defend Harbin. If Harbin falls I would like to be able to move them back to the Home Islands.

A compromise with a stand off at Harbin in other words. I _know_ I can't hold - but will not yield without a fight.
The good thing for me is that all of my Manchukuo Army will not be squashed even if I loose....and the Armored reserve will come
in handy in the Home Islands.

Can't say I'm really happy about this...


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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/2/2007 11:52:29 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Seems like I'm able to move troops from Arshaan even though there are numerous Red Army troops to the SE.
Just like the AI doesn't know that Japan is at war with the USSR...only that the USSR is at war with Japan

I'm moving our Air units out of Manchukuo - they will come in handy in the Home Islands. 150 Shindens and 150 Franks
as well as 500 level bombers will be made available.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/11/45

Air Combat

Heavy air strikes against Batan Island, Formosa and Okinawas.
We hit some Allied ships at Andamans and south of Bonins:

Day Air attack on TF at 59,59

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 13
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 5
Ki-100 Tony x 6
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Alfred L. Baxley
AK Redstone Seam, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 66,65

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 5
B7A Grace x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 12
Corsair IV x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 5 destroyed
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot
DD DeHaven
DD Eaton
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Day Air attack on TF at 57,60

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Clarksdale Victory
AK Gus W. Darnell
AK Elwin F. Knowles
AK Henry T. Scott, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK Frank E. Spencer
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LCI(G) LCI(G)-462, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ida M. Tarbell, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Cowell
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
P1Y Frances x 4
Ki-67 Peggy x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged
P1Y Frances: 4 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Cowell
DD Ralph Talbot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Morris, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 64,25

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 185229 troops, 2189 guns, 338 vehicles, Assault Value = 4499

Defending force 167 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied max assault: 9560 - adjusted assault: 4434

Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 4434 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Our last troops at Trim are liminated...

Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 25717 troops, 120 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 617

Defending force 2084 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Allied max assault: 536 - adjusted assault: 268

Japanese max defense: 7 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 268 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
3253 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
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Enemy Carriers that provided support for supply ships turned about to protect the crippled carrier sister,
leaving the merchants without air cover!






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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/2/2007 11:56:13 PM   
PzB74


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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/3/2007 12:02:36 AM   
PzB74


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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/3/2007 12:48:09 AM   
pauk


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hmmmm... you should try with BONSAI battle cry

good luck!

PS... i hope you are not Brann fan... my home town soccer team (Dinamo) plays agaist Brann in UEFA league

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/3/2007 6:55:35 PM   
Naskra

 

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Status: offline 		PzB, have you tried targeting a Soviet base in order to trigger a two-sided Russo-Japanese war?

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/3/2007 7:11:32 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		The traditional and war mongering government in Imperial Japan believes in the traditional war cries Pauk-San

Brann is a team from Bergen, some way north of were I come from.
They won the Norwegian League this year and could give a good fight, but they lack international experience...
Lost 0-2 for Hamburg in the last match.

Not only have I targetted a Sovet base, we marched into Okah in Sakalin and captured the place...


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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/3/2007 9:01:20 PM   
Naskra

 

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/4/2007 1:51:47 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Afraid I've tried most tricks in the book to activate the Russo-Japanese war properly
Now it's too late and I'm moving Base Force units to Korea and re-basing the Air Force.

Today's air strike from the Taiho met almost 100 CAP fighters and the AF at Pagan decided to take a break day despite
clear weather. Only 3 dive bombers got through but all failed to hit the carrier Hornet.

The enemy ships sailed a more south easterly course than we thought they would and our surface interceptors found
nothing but empty ocean!

Nothing else of interest to report really.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/12/45

Air Combat

Batan Island is taking a continuous beating, but is well stocked with supplies.

Day Air attack on Batan Island , at 47,47

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.XXVI x 15
P-40N Warhawk x 27
P-51D Mustang x 52
A-26B Invader x 196

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 16
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Day Air attack on Batan Island , at 47,47

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F-5C Lightning x 6
P-47D Thunderbolt x 16
A-26B Invader x 132
PB4Y Liberator x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Port hits 5
Port supply hits 16
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I've decided not to defend the Okinawas from enemy LBA. Can't wear down our AF now, still
building a powerful reserve of men and machine. Andy may try to land in the Home Islands soon.

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 5
B-24J Liberator x 178

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 98
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 321

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 4 destroyed
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
370 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 72
Airbase supply hits 32
Runway hits 329
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The Taiho's brave strike from 5 hexes. Somehow Andy managed to double his CAP.

Day Air attack on TF at 68,66

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 20
D4Y Judy x 22
B7A Grace x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 57
F4U-1 Corsair x 7
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
Corsair IV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 18 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 22 destroyed
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
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Our strike planes from Burma are too inexperienced to hit agile targets like destoyers:

Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Mullany
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Erben
DD Dashiell
DD Eaton
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 5
P1Y Frances x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Cowell
DD Eaton
DD Erben
DD DeHaven
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Heywood Edwards

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air Reserve Pools August 45

Reserves of critical ac like Shindens, Reppus and Franks is growing.
Even if we loose Shinden production in Harbin we should have sufficient production left to
keeps us supplied. Many smaller factories in the Home Islands are still increasing Shinden production.
I've actually stopped production of Franks for now.

The new oil reserves at Okah will improve our HI production capacity as well.




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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/4/2007 8:55:07 PM   
pauk


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i can not understand why Andy keeps sending transports to Russia too... perhaps he gathering because he wants Russians in the Home islands too?

Nice work, PzB... it is depressing that you can not conduct air attacks, but i'm not sure that air supperiority would help you a much against Red bear (especially if/when Andy split LCUs)... perhaps IJA and IJN AF will have a better job to do in HI?

Do you know why he is waiting with A-bombs? (perhaps he will drop them just before invasion?)..

And, please, can you count your all Ki-102 airgroups - how many of them you have? Soon i will recive them too, but i don't want to convert too many bomber groups to this FB. They will be quite useful for defending HI skies against B-29 until Andy can add figher escort to Superfortresses and thus will free figher groups for frontline duties...

Pauk-san sending you a top-figher daitai for HI defence - Bonsai daitai!

Bonsai!




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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/4/2007 9:43:35 PM   
Zond


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The Bonsai itself



And the l33t George Daitai !



Go Pzb!



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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/5/2007 3:02:28 PM   
saj42


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Status: offline 		PzB,
I think that to correctly activate the Russian and Japanese forces you may need to move a unit over the border on the road to Vladivostok. I remember reading that there were problems in the early release of the game and that was a Dev's 'work-around' to the problem. Could you give it a try?

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/5/2007 4:23:48 PM   
Honda


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Status: offline 		Maybe just to drop a few paras on a Soviet base...

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/5/2007 5:20:48 PM   
soeren01

 

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Status: offline 		Maybe just a sub landing at a soviet base ?

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 11/6/2007 10:53:29 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		I will count how many Randy units I got Pauk - still got one light bomber unit with Lily's to expend the last ac.
They're useful interceptors, but as soon as long range fighters arrive they're toast.

There's no reason to hold back the A-bombs - the longer he wait the longer our production centres will remain intact!
Maybe he's having problems?

Veery nice Bonsai's
(Why are the links dead today?)

We have already dropped paras on the Soviet base of Okah Sakalin, didn't help.
Troops are marching towards Vladivostok. Will arrive next turn - Andy is busy these days so no turns.


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Schweinfurt Raids - 11/23/2007 9:43:34 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Andy is back and here is the first turn!

We exploited his lack of local CAP and fighter escorts and massacred transports
and more than 100 4Es! Adios buggers

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/13/45

Air Combat

Okinawas

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 10
J7W Shinden x 9
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 27
Ki-100 Tony x 6
Ki-102a Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 5
B-24J Liberator x 125

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 6 damaged
J7W Shinden: 8 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 3 destroyed, 21 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 44 destroyed, 37 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
1 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 5
J7W Shinden x 4
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11
Ki-100 Tony x 3
Ki-102a Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 5
F-5C Lightning x 6
PB4Y Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 202

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 11 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F-5C Lightning: 2 destroyed
PB4Y Liberator: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 41 destroyed, 83 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Next time we have to support Naha!

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 298

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
534 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Airbase hits 36
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 570
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East China Sea

Day Air attack on TF at 31,51

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 13

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Saginaw Bay
CVE Kitkun Bay
CA Detroit
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Philippine Sea

Day Air attack on TF at 43,61

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 13
P1Y Frances x 8
Ki-102a Randy x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Anthony Ravalli, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ben B. Lindsey
AK Sea Sturgeon
AK John S. Bassett, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK George Crile, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kanlaon II, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
166 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 43,61

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK San Bernadino, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Francisco Coronado, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
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Andaman Islands

Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Cowell, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Erben
DD Dashiell
DD Ralph Talbot
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RE: Schweinfurt Raids - 11/23/2007 9:54:06 PM   
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RE: Schweinfurt Raids - 11/24/2007 7:55:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

you guys deserve medals for getting so far in your game.




And for being Nice enough to share it with us all too. AAR's don't happen by magic .. thanks

/waves bye bye to Duck

And Sooo Glad andys back , I missed this and Pauks AAR's

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RE: Schweinfurt Raids - 11/25/2007 1:28:16 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Thanx guys, it is mostly the general interest all readers have shown for this AAR that keeps it alive!
It is a bit demanding to play in 1945 - old bugs is one thing, the challenge is to keep full focus at times.
Andy is doing a great job, but I suspect that he isn't putting all heart and soul into all his turns.

Bombers are sent enmasse to targets without regards for losses and all our isolated bases are mostly left alone, allowing
us to hit unescorted troop and supply convoys at will. If Andy wanted to he could have smashed all these 'nests' in his rear,
kept our forward air bases suppressed and escorted his convoys. As it is our 'victories' are a bit empty, like shooting clay pigeons. Thousands of B-29s are pounding smalls islands from 5-7000 feet while ships are moving in the the Sea of Japan.

At times I wonder if I should just pack it up and call it quits - what else is there to show and achieve?
Right now I'm trying to re-build the Fleet for one last stand.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/14/45

All Andy's talk about not liking training camps. He's now using our isolated troops in Luzon as
target practice for thousands of ac...why shouldn't Japan be allowed to do the same without all the
complaining ?

Air Combat

The iffy things is that even after a Schweinfurt massacre Andy keeps sending unescorted
bombers against the same target the day after.

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 5
B-24J Liberator x 68

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 101
Port fuel hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 44,59

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 4
P1Y Frances x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged
P1Y Frances: 10 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Robert S. Bean
AK Augustin Daly, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK John Dockweiler
AK Mariscal Sucre

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
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Ground Combat

We can manage some 5000 AV at Harbin, but without mountain terrain I think it will be futile.
Huge Red Armies are massing at the doors and we can't do anything but wait.

Ground combat at 63,33

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 98609 troops, 1121 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 1995

Defending force 5510 troops, 59 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Japanese max assault: 2140 - adjusted assault: 2812

Allied max defense: 113 - adjusted defense: 55

Japanese assault odds: 51 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
701 casualties reported
Guns lost 18
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
357 casualties reported
Guns lost 18
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Spoiling attacks towards Vladivostok

Can this trigger the AI?





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RE: Schweinfurt Raids - 11/25/2007 7:17:42 AM   
Rob Brennan UK


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quote:

nAll Andy's talk about not liking training camps. He's now using our isolated troops in Luzon as
target practice for thousands of ac...why shouldn't Japan be allowed to do the same without all the
complaining ?


on a personal note i don't do this as allies, however it seems andy is getting lazy (or not interested) those 4E losses are horrible ..eek

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RE: Schweinfurt Raids - 11/25/2007 2:11:30 PM   
PzB74


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From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		I take a few days break when I feel that I don't have the motivation to finish a turn 'properly' by going through
the entire routine; checking all squadrons, ships, factories etc. Can easily understand that this is a monstrous task
for the Allies in 45!!  Just the US subs require lots of time to place and move.

Talking about subs, with more than 60% of our ASW assets blasted or busy with other tasks, it would have been a true
menace to have them in our remaining supply and com lanes right now. Fortunately? not a single sub has been spotted lately.

I haven't seen anything of the nuke's yet either, strange....we're just a few days away from the historical VJ day.



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RE: PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel - 11/26/2007 2:27:07 AM   
Fornadan


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Status: offline 		I haven't been on this board for years, but on a hunch I thought I'd check how it all ended, and you're still playing

though methinks PzB will feel empty inside once this game ends

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The War Grinds on - 11/29/2007 1:11:51 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Nice to hear from you Fornadan!
We're still battling on here Must admit that the war is not really geared up right now.
Like to punch drunk fighters limping around each other, too exhausted both physically and mentally for
another devastating round.

I can't do anything in Kwantung despite continued attacks and advanced into USSR territory.
Andy is massing a huge army next to Harbin, I can muster a mere 6000 AP + forts. Won't be enough.
Really dislike not being able to fight back properly...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/15/45

Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Denver
CA Northampton
CA Chester
CA Shropshire
CA Alaska
CA St. Paul
CA Wichita
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Texas
BB New York
BB Richelieu, heavy damage
BB Missouri
BB Wisconsin
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa
BB Alabama
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
1954 casualties reported
Guns lost 19
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Davao , at 41,61

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 1 damaged
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 11 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 46
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Day Air attack on Legaspi , at 44,55

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 23
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 10
B-24J Liberator x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 65
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Day Air attack on 1st Aus Army Tank Battalion, at 15,23

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2
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Day Air attack on TF, near Trimcomalee at 15,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 36
Thunderbolt II x 1
Beaufighter VIF x 6
Mosquito FB.VI x 3
P-38J Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 21 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF, near Yanam at 22,21

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 18

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
P-38J Lightning x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 18 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
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NO enemy CAP over Andaman and the poor destroyers are sitting ducks!

Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Cowell, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD DeHaven
DD Morris, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Cowell, on fire, heavy damage
DD Heywood Edwards
DD Erben
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Day Air attack on TF, near Masbate Island at 44,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samuel G. Howe
AK Robert J. Banks, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Gabriel Franchere
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Day Air attack on TF, near Masbate Island at 44,56

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 4
P1Y Frances x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 4 damaged
P1Y Frances: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Bowdoin Victory
AK Brown Victory
AK Helena Modjeska, Torpedo hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF, near Masbate Island at 44,56

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DM Lindsey
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Ground Combat

Clean impossible to squeeze this enemy fort out of the way, even with overwhelming
odds.

Ground combat at 63,33

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 97353 troops, 1100 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1940

Defending force 4835 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Japanese max assault: 1232 - adjusted assault: 751

Allied max defense: 66 - adjusted defense: 45

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
482 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Allied ground losses:
377 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
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First limited enemy attack on our remnants in Bataan.

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 63212 troops, 477 guns, 1404 vehicles, Assault Value = 1233

Defending force 75883 troops, 141 guns, 105 vehicles, Assault Value = 1400

Allied max assault: 1121 - adjusted assault: 619

Japanese max defense: 817 - adjusted defense: 303

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
2130 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1660 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 42
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Colombo ain't going to be an easy target!
Adjusted defense of 2218!!

Ground combat at Colombo

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21302 troops, 242 guns, 185 vehicles, Assault Value = 689

Defending force 17620 troops, 149 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 268

Allied max assault: 619 - adjusted assault: 337

Japanese max defense: 229 - adjusted defense: 2218

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
588 casualties reported
Guns lost 21

Allied ground losses:
941 casualties reported
Guns lost 22
Vehicles lost 1
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