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Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 9:29:31 PM   
Ike99


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Status: offline 		I was surfing around ¨home of the underdogs¨ one day and came across a game called...

¨Buzz Aldrins Race Into Space¨

I had never heard of the man or the mission,

but decided to check it out anyways. What I found was a very addicting strategy game on the Race between the Soviet Union and United States to land a man on the Moon and return him to the Earth alive first.

Wonderful concept and a really first rate game despite its age.

Matrix Games like doing remakes and bringing old games up to modern specs and redoing this game should be one a developer should seriously consider.
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 9:54:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ahh yes, I should add the copyright to this game is now the game designers and he has given permission for anyone to download the game and play it, as long as it isn´t sold.

So someone get on the phone and start tossing ideas around for a remake...please.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 11:13:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can never get these DOS games to run but I have often thought a game based on the space race would be good and I would certainly join you in suggesting Matrix take a look.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 11:16:21 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 11:16:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space is now available in a proper Windows freeware version on sourceforge, so you don't need to go the ILLEGAL way.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 11:28:57 PM   
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Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space is now available in a proper freeware version on sourceforge, so you don't need to go the ILLEGAL way.


How can there be an ¨ILLEGAL¨ way terminus when the person who owns the copyright has given permission to host it and download it as long as it isn´t sold?

Punk reaper there is a Windows CD ROM version for download, maybe it will work on your system.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 11:41:02 PM   
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I can never get these DOS games to run but I have often thought a game based on the space race would be good and I would certainly join you in suggesting Matrix take a look.

This game works on WindowsXP reaper. I just checked the specs.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/4/2007 11:45:03 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/5/2007 12:52:26 AM   
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Oh great Russia we have landed!

I step on the new world of mankind, a world of communist.








http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=yO3J9Gr4uLc

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/6/2007 5:53:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ike99

quote:

Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space is now available in a proper freeware version on sourceforge, so you don't need to go the ILLEGAL way.


How can there be an ¨ILLEGAL¨ way terminus when the person who owns the copyright has given permission to host it and download it as long as it isn´t sold?

Punk reaper there is a Windows CD ROM version for download, maybe it will work on your system.


I was wondering how Terminus came to that conclusion too. There's no difference.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/6/2007 7:45:47 PM   
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The sourceforge version is nice, runs quite well on Windows XP. I am very happy that old copyrights are getting loosed... Home of the Underdogs has been keep some of the best abandonware alive. Some of the greatest ideas came out of that silver age of PC gaming.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/6/2007 9:01:05 PM   
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I was wondering how Terminus came to that conclusion too. There's no difference.


I´m thinking many people have a predjudice when they hear ¨home of the underdogs¨ or other such sites believing the games posted there are automatic pirated. That´s what I am guessing. I don´t know.

I would say to anyone download the game from Sourceforce as Terminus said though as it seems the game maker is there and improved some things on it.

It seems the forum is active. Amazing for a 15 year old PC game.

mkmccarty@raceintospace.org There you go Matrix, the developers email. (Hint) (Hint)

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/6/2007 9:25:23 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/6/2007 11:38:21 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/7/2007 8:26:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ike99

I´m thinking many people have a predjudice when they hear ¨home of the underdogs¨ or other such sites believing the games posted there are automatic pirated. That´s what I am guessing. I don´t know.

I know. Home of the Underdogs hosts games that they consider as abandonware, and I believe that counts games like Panzer General, Battle Isle and Steel Panthers. If copyright owner of the game or its representative demands Underdogs to remove game, Underdogs does so. I guess many similar sites act like that, but there are so many of them and new ones popping up, that if game you're looking for is removed from one site, it's likely on some other.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/7/2007 9:16:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It actually started off as a board game, which can still be acquired directly from the designer, Fritz Bronner.  Here's my review of the board game:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/206796

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/8/2007 5:16:18 AM   
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It actually started off as a board game, which can still be acquired directly from the designer, Fritz Bronner. Here's my review of the board game:


I don´t know how frustrating the board game is as you write in your review Rainbow but I can certainly say the PC version is very frustrating.

Especially as your capsule burns up in re-entry along with crew (-10 prestige, capsule safety 6)and the Soviets jump way ahead of you.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/9/2007 6:29:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I failed many a mission in Liftoff!, and the worst is when I have a series of failures which throws off all my plans for years.  But I also found, the board game at any rate, that catching up just means taking a few more chances.  There is also a built in mechanism with the card draws that tends to even out income over time, so that there isn't a runaway winner.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/9/2007 10:54:00 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/10/2007 2:01:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

I can never get these DOS games to run but I have often thought a game based on the space race would be good and I would certainly join you in suggesting Matrix take a look.


Just get dosbox here:

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1&begaming_website_session=4c96dc9209fb69b92426f0cd3a25d095

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/10/2007 6:30:25 PM   
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Just get dosbox here:


Not needed. The version at Sourceforce works on all windows systems. It has a lot more historic video footage than the old diskette version as well.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 12/12/2007 11:28:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ORANGE

I would like to see a computer version of the old Avalon Hill game Up Front or something similar.


Years ago I tried the first and got pretty close (one or two signatures away) though for a long list of reasons it will not and should not ever happen by anyone. I then started work on the second. For a different set of reasons I decided it not very plausible as it was. A good bit after that I began an enhanced version of the project. The irony here is that should I ever finish the 3rd incarnation while it will be what I would personally consider a superior game in all ways to Up Front, it is being built upon an engine that would be easily moddable into the first (well at least for 70%-80% of its rules/components if not more should someone actually want to bother) and then through additional releases other genres and/or forms of combat (naval/air etc.). Thus its plausibility to offset the insane amount of effort..

I hesitate a bit more than some would to call Up Front a flawed game. It was certainly revolutionary for its time, but uber-fanbois aside, most today consider it at least partially flawed, overcomplicated, and with some of the most poorly defined and written rules ever. Certainly any new player would. MMP to this day has still failed at a remake. I must say though, being challenged with coming up with a better game myself, I have I think a unique appreciation for some of the challenges Courtney faced and can't really criticize his solutions to them. Having done extensive playtesting and contributions to a later title of his and having subsequentlely fully finished my own card game back then based largely upon the same mechanics (Which never saw the light of day when AH died mere months later) I have an unparralleled love for all titles in the line...

I guess thats what still drives me to do it, even though I'm still a bit uncertain how exactly popular card games are, especially in a computer-based version.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 1/25/2008 12:42:52 AM   
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I wrote an AAR of my first game here.

Posted some screen shots of the game and some links to resources that were helpful.

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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 1/25/2008 1:04:30 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 1/25/2008 2:32:37 PM   
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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 1/25/2008 2:50:44 PM   
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http://www.retroscene.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=AmigaSupremacy

I liked that one

And what a surprise to see ravinhoods first post in the thread being on topic and helpful.


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RE: Can we get a Space Game? - 1/25/2008 3:06:12 PM   
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As for Spam. How about Monty Python in space :).

Or related. How about a space game heavily influenced by Hitchhikers Guide to Galaxy? A bit like
Starship Titanic. I don't want ot see yet another generic 4X game.


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