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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/21/2007 4:38:54 PM

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In the meantime supply levels are rising up at Karachi. 280,000 supplies present today with more 30,000 coming from Aden and more 110,000 which are being loading at Bombay that will arrive at Karachi (if the KB doesn't ruin my plans) within the next week or so. Let's say that in a month i'll be able to mass some 350/400,000 supplies at Karachi. Not bad at all. Some 20,000 oil is also moving on TK towards Karachi in order to make the HI running fine and smooth for some more time.

Looking at the replay screenshot (the one that shows the KB moving along the western coast of India) i'm thinking that he's not really coming for Bombay. I guess he wants to smash Mangalore ord Pangim harbour and land there, so to estabilish an AF close enough to Bombay and a port on the western Coast.
While if he's really coming for Bombay...well i'll lose some ships, probably some planes...but nothing serious. (i hope)

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/21/2007 5:39:16 PM

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Several questions/ideas regarding your available air units in India/PI :
No way you can upgrade a RAAF squadron from Hudson to Beaufort?
Perhaps you can also upgrade a US fighter group from P40 to early P38.Ok its a one shot action due to the low replacement pool, but still a nasty surprise for him, especially if his elite fighter daitais are very tired from constant realocation

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/21/2007 6:33:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: TenChiMato

No way you can upgrade a RAAF squadron from Hudson to Beaufort?
Perhaps you can also upgrade a US fighter group from P40 to early P38.Ok its a one shot action due to the low replacement pool, but still a nasty surprise for him, especially if his elite fighter daitais are very tired from constant realocation

No way, i could only downgrade them to Dakotas (and that's what i did in order to be able to rescue those 2 important units trapped at Mangalore and i also hope to save the Madras base force all the same).

- The P-38 isn't a bad idea, gotta take a look if it's possible cause i think i still do not have 24 P-38s ready....gotta check!

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/21/2007 6:56:57 PM

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Checked...only 18 P-38s ready...no way to change them...good idea however!

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/22/2007 9:21:29 AM

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Ok, got the turn file.

As you can see from the screen shot, our P-40s did a pretty good job in the PI last turn. 12 crack zeros shot down, along with some bombers. Not that bad.We lost 27 P-40s but mainly the non-experienced pilots...those who were above 60 exp managed to stay alive.
Now i've rebased them at Manila, along with 2 bomber groups. I wanna force him to keep on bombing Luzon.
Clark is still more or less operative. If he doesn't bomb it again tomorrow i could rebase here my bombers!

In India, we have a problem.
I'm not that sure that the one i see from my naval recon is the real KB. We've spotted and identified the CVE hosho, in a TF with- what my pilots say- 4 CVs. The problem is that the entire KB cannot be contained in only 1 CVTF, so i think it is only 1 CV division, probably a reinforced baby-KB...so where the hell is the real KB!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Anyway 3 more BB TFs are moving along the coast. Considering the overcast weather forecasted for tomorrow i think it's plausible an attack en masse against Bombay Fortress.
He has TONS of planes at Bengalore, in range to smash Bombay...3 BB TFs are a bit to much for a bombing run against Pangim or Mangalore...so Bombay must be the target. I've rebased my fighters which now are spread in more bases and left at Bombay only 10 Catalinas.
At Bombay there are also some 30 ships that are loading fuel and supplies...they are expendable, while my fighters are not!

I've also ordered to my transport planes to try a sneaky action:save 3 depleated units from the shock-pursue combo of his tanks! If i manage to bring every men back in one turn i can slow him down considerably because he won't be able to jump one hex per day no more...let's see.

RN is at sea, just in case.

I've converted the U.S. group of Mohawk at Karachi to P-40s...need the best i can for the final defence!

In the pacific, i've ordered to form the sub screen west of the Marshalls...20 subs are dispacthed for this task. Their goal is to inform us if the KB is coming...if it's so we must reconsider the invasion...

...my CVs are a bit late...however tomorrow we'll start to bomb Kwalajein and in 3 days we'll land at Tarawa with 2 NZ Bde, 1 CD unit, 1 Base force and 2 arty units. The Tarawa landing will have two goals: place my catalinas closer to the area of operation and distract him from the real target. At the same time we'll put every effort in the PI bombing campaign in order to force him to keep his nells there.... It's risky, i know but we need to gamble

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/22/2007 9:23:11 AM

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Indian theatre.

As you can see our retreat is going just fine. If we manage to cat-n'-mouse at Bombay for a bit we should delay him some more....and there are 1900 mines waiting for his BBs at Bombay

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/22/2007 3:49:07 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/12/42

Ok, it's confirmed it's not the whole KB. just a baby KB escorting some 4 BB TFs heading for Bombay. I managed to evacuate most of my transports from Bombay. Just 5 TKs will probably be left beyond because i forgot to give them the right orders last turn. However all my planes are safe!

and can fight another day!
Now the porblem is: the the KB is?????? It will be the most important task for the next days...find the KB!!! If the KB is in the pacific i think i'll have to completely change my plans....first rule: survive and fight another day!

In China he sent his bombers from Formosa to hit Whuchow, where my bombers had moved. just 4 are lost on the ground, so not a big problem. Now my B-25s are back at Luzon, while my B-17s are moved back to India. Gotta keep him concentrated at Luzon.

The air bridge in India went perfectly! We've saved what remained of the badly depleted Indian regiment and when he shocked he didn't find anyone to pursue

This will slow down his advance...

Bad weather in CentPac...my bombers won't take off tomorrow from Wake

There will be some news in China tomorrow...

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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39 *not impressive!*

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
G3M Nell x 29
G4M1 Betty x 53
Ki-49 Helen x 16

Allied aircraft
I-153c x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 3 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed
IL-4c: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 26

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Day Air attack on TF at 15,9 *the baby Kb managed to find and sink 2 AKs near Bombay...not a big deal and we have the confirm that only CVE and CVLs are present...*

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 33

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Spray, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Trust, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 16,6 *his subs have started to operate again between Aden and Karachi*

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
AK Empire Rani, Torpedo hits 1
MSW Banka

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Ground combat at Raipur *CUCU, nobody is here to follow

*

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1192 troops, 0 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 12

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Raipur base !!!

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Ground combat at Malir *he tried to close my back door with a paradrop....you can catch me off guard with the same trick only once my dear friend

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Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 98 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Defending force 6566 troops, 118 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Japanese max assault: 8 - adjusted assault: 0

Allied max defense: 51 - adjusted defense: 31

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported

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KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/22/2007 7:04:28 PM

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Ok, i was wrong. The whole KB has sprung from nowehere and went hunting my ships between Karachi and Aden. So he didn't want to bomb Bombay with his BBs....wonder why he has brought with him the BBs if it was only a CV raid...

However i've lost several ships. Mostly AKs but also some Aux vassels used for the ASW. Nothing serious however. The main fleet is safe...oh, well...almost safe. Let's see if tomorrow the clouds or some easy luck will make my BBs arrive at Aden unseen...let's cross the fingers. My CVs will try to LRCAP over my main combat fleet..it will be a risky operation!

Anyway, for what concerns the land war in India, we managed to save also the last Indian Bde trapped at Hydebarn. The shock attack of the japs found noone to follow or pursue

. Now my units all reached the defensive perimeter (see picture). I'll wait untill he advance and then i'll move back from Bombay to Ahmadabad and from Bohpal and Delhi to Jaipur...doing well i think.

In the PI he didn't bomb today but his planes remain at Formosa...which is good. With the KB in the Indian Ocean i ordered to speed it up the Marshall operation.... If the weather will be good (thunderstorm forecasted) tomorrow we'll start bombing Kwalajein and in 2 days we'll land at Tarawa...

However there isn't any more traffic in the China southern sea...he had to divert his main convoys

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Slaughterhouse in the Indian ocean

Day Air attack on TF at 13,4

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Lakeland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Tana, Torpedo hits 2, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 16,1

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
D3A2 Val x 26
B5N2 Kate x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Lynx, Bomb hits 1
AK Empire Wyclif, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Voice, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 16,1

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Wyclif, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK City of Manchester, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Lynx, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 16,2

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
MSW Bendigo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Circe, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Burnie, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Maryborough, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PC Raub, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PG Indus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 19,8

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Empire Emerald, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Empire Amethyst, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 19,2

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 25
B5N2 Kate x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
SC Nigella, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Cromarty, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Cromer, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
SC Aster, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Lismore, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC Hollyhock

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Day Air attack on TF at 19,2

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
MSW Lismore, on fire, heavy damage
SC Hollyhock
MSW Cromarty, on fire, heavy damage
SC Aster, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 20,3

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 21
B5N2 Kate x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PG Shoreham, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SC Cyclamen, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Poole, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SC Genista, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PC Netravati
SC Fritillary

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Day Air attack on TF at 20,3

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 25
B5N2 Kate x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Virginian, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Homer, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Chaucer, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Ground combat at Hyderabad

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2956 troops, 0 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 346

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

*there's none to pursue neither here my friend

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Japanese max assault: 154 - adjusted assault: 79

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 79 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hyderabad base !!!

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/22/2007 7:17:29 PM

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Honestly i'm quite happy about the overall view. I was terribly scared the KB would have slipped away unseen from India and that it was heading towards the pacific. While it seems that he's concentrating every effort in the Indian sub-continent, leaving a good door open in the pacific. If i manage to get ashore and estabilish a solid bridge head in the Marshalls the tide can really change.
Anyway now my main concerns are about India. We have to see how much time the KB will spend near Karachi. It's gonna start a very interesting war of supplying karachi. I'd like to add to its defence also a tank unit that is coming within 10 days at Aden but i have to be carefull not to be caught there by those damned CVs...which however will surely have to sail back to Tricomale sooner or later to refuel and refit a bit.
It's gonna be like Malta in the WW2...yes, it's going to be cool and very interesting.
With this retreat plan i think i'll be able to master easily 2500 AVs at Karachi for the final stand. With some luck 3,000. His BBs will surely play a foundamental role in the siege...i'm terribly looking forward to see how this war will unfold

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/22/2007 8:33:07 PM

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KB still in the IO is really good news. I wonder how he reacts when you start assaulting his islands in the pacific. Should be a terrible christmas present for japanese morale.

Strategically I think he already lost the game. He simply cannot withdraw that many forces from India without risking to loose the whole continent again. On the other hand those forces will be terribly missed in the PI and Pacific area. But I'm sure he still has some tricks up his sleeve. The next weeks are going to be interesting.

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/22/2007 9:19:22 PM

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Good grief Hop, you've got a 15 page AAR, and it's only 02-15...

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/22/2007 11:18:24 PM

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Well, now you have finally confirmed that the bulk of KB is _DEEP_ into the Arabian Sea......now you have at least 3-4 weeks for your Marshalls offensive(or even transport supply/reinforcements to the PI). I have a feeling that KB has replenishment TFs standing by and will be interdicting the sea lanes from Aden to Karachi for some time to prevent 7th AIF or 7th Armored from reinforcing Karachi.

Did you manage to get a command HQ(SEAC or Malaya) and a corps HQ(III Indian) 100% prepped for Karachi to Karachi?

After the Marshalls ops, any chance of using the USN CVs to ferry some Marine F4F-3s to the PI?

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/23/2007 12:27:58 AM

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What are your plans for after you get your bases in Marshalls? Do you plan to push farther if circumstances allow or do you hope to draw forces from India operation?

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 9:33:08 AM

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How many divisions could he potentially have afloat right now? He may be going for an invasion straight for Karachi or Aden with this move, otherwise all the other shipping he brought with KB makes no sense.

Jim

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 11:33:04 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/14/42

What a carnage!!!!
His CVs are spread all along the Karachi gulf, just stopping any shipping lane between Karachi and Aden. NEarly 30 ships sunk, luckly none of them till now had any troop aboard...just supplies...however my ASW RN fleet is lies on the bottom of the Arabic Sea right now and i simply cannot interdict his mighty carriers...just have to suffer and wait that the storm is passed by

It doesn't seem to be any transport TF along with the CVs, not any replenishment TFs...so probably this is just a raid to find my combat fleet, which is now safe at Aden (well, safe so to say...). I'm trying to cat-mouse between Bombay and Karachi with my RAF, but as soon as he decides to destroy it there won't really be no hope to hold both his CVs and his LBAs.... Today he stormed Poona, finding only some Dakotas

that managed to get safe the Madras BAse force before Mangalore was conquered and the garrison in it surrendered.
The strange thing is that there are 2 transport TFs heading for Bombay...

without any CV cover....quite strange...let's see if we can make him a present here

....i have to keep in mind that my goal is to gain time....gain time to let the americans do something good in the pacific....the second front so to say!

As you can see from the second screenshot attached the 7th Armoured Bde is arriving at Aden in 9 days... i do not think he has anything particularly big loaded right now for a landing at Aden...there are so many troops in India...he will need at least 4 divisions for the Aden adventure...probably even more considering the 9 forts and the urban hex and those 16inch guns....nor i think he can keep his KB forever at sea...all those big ships drink so much fuel!!!

Today he smashed again Clark Fields with the same force that attacked it 4 days ago. That means his Nells and zeros are still up there...but he totally forgot Manila, where my bombers now have been rebased along with some more 30 fighters...

...and finally tomorrow the forecast says clear weather over Wake...my bombers should start to ruin Kwalajein!At the same time tomorrow we'll land with a Fast transport TF at Tarawa, which is empty from enemy units. then the next day will land the bulk of my invasion NZ force and 24 catalinas will immediately be based here.

18 B-17s are getting ready at Darwin...wanna start to give him some problems also at Ambonia and Kendari asap!

The Retribution operation is going well. undetected we're grouping south of Johstons. The CVs are just 2 days away...tomorrow we'll start to move towards Maloep! Can't wait guys....

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Sub attack at 16,3 *he has deployed a great numbers of subs with his CVs in the Arabic Sea*

Japanese Ships
SS I-20

Allied Ships
AK Empire Oryx, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 12,2 *just at the beginning of the Aden Channell*

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
DD Yugumo
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
MSW Banka, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
AK Empire Johnson, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Empire Morn, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Empire Rowan, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
AK Empire Sunrise
AK Empire Zephyr

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Day Air attack on Poona , at 19,12

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 104
Ki-21-II Sally x 160
Ki-15 Babs x 7

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged
Ki-15 Babs: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
Dakota I: 2 destroyed
C-47 Dakota: 5 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16

This raid was particularly uneffective!

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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51 * 150 bombers...i have to keep these bastards away from the Marshalls...*

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
G3M Nell x 80
G4M1 Betty x 52
Ki-49 Helen x 38

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 61

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Day Air attack on TF at 11,1 *i avoid to post every single attack against my shippings near Karachi...let's just say that i've lost 33 ships today...*

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 24
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Zephyr, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Sunrise, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Poona , at 19,12 *again an ineffective raid against Poona*

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
G3M Nell x 156
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 destroyed, 17 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Dakota I: 2 destroyed
C-47 Dakota: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 8

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Ground combat at Mangalore * We lost here the Mangalore base-force-garrison along with a fragment of the Madras Base force*

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 25030 troops, 93 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 551

Defending force 7224 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 74

Japanese max assault: 888 - adjusted assault: 755

Allied max defense: 65 - adjusted defense: 61

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mangalore base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
8666 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 11:34:09 AM

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The reinforcement scheldue for Aden

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 11:35:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Feinder

Good grief Hop, you've got a 15 page AAR, and it's only 02-15...

-F-

Yes, i'm amazed how much this AAR is becoming popular

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/23/2007 11:38:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: Admiral Spruance

Well, now you have finally confirmed that the bulk of KB is _DEEP_ into the Arabian Sea......now you have at least 3-4 weeks for your Marshalls offensive(or even transport supply/reinforcements to the PI). I have a feeling that KB has replenishment TFs standing by and will be interdicting the sea lanes from Aden to Karachi for some time to prevent 7th AIF or 7th Armored from reinforcing Karachi.

Hi,
As said i have not noticed any replenishment TF along with the KB....
The 7th AIF is already at Karachi, while the 7th arm. Bde will arrive in 9 days..

Did you manage to get a command HQ(SEAC or Malaya) and a corps HQ(III Indian) 100% prepped for Karachi to Karachi?

Indian HQ and SEAC HQ are at Karachi, 40% prepped for it, while the III Indian HQ is at Aden waiting for a chance of getting to Karachi...

After the Marshalls ops, any chance of using the USN CVs to ferry some Marine F4F-3s to the PI?
Well, it's a chance...but if the Marashall operation goes very well i think the next target will be the Mariannas, in order to create a brigde with the PI...

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RE: the Struggle for India - 12/23/2007 11:41:26 AM

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What are your plans for after you get your bases in Marshalls? Do you plan to push farther if circumstances allow or do you hope to draw forces from India operation?

If i manage to get ashore at Maloep, i'll use Kwalajein as a training camp for my air crews and at the same time i'd like to push further...MArcus Island and the Mariannas could be an idea, but i have to play carefully...i really think that the next main goal would be to streghten is a certain way the PI, hoping that in India the Brits won't be kicked out of the war

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 11:46:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

How many divisions could he potentially have afloat right now? He may be going for an invasion straight for Karachi or Aden with this move, otherwise all the other shipping he brought with KB makes no sense.

Jim

Hi Jim,
Potentially 4/5, not more. I've seen in the last 3 days at least 3 divisions and the 65th Bde in southern India, so i do not really know...

Going directly for Aden i think it's too risky, while Karachi is a possibility...however i really do not see how he can do that without having a close supporting port for his BBs and an AF close enough to bomb the hell out of Karachi... I have 500 AVs at Karachi right now, with the 7th AIF division which is an elite division, with more 300 AVs at Malir...sounds quite tough to go for Karachi right now....however let's just see...i'm ready to order a general retreat as soon as i see any big transport formation approachin Bombay

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 12:20:42 PM

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340,000 Supplies at Karachi right now. Think i'll have to live with them for quite a long time cause now the shipping lane to Aden is closed.
Maybe the HI will produce some more of them...

Guys...the Brits are in a terrible situation...

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 12:54:07 PM

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Actually the Japanese are in a teribble situation. Watch as Trolite over reacts to your landings in the Pacific. You should be prepared to take islands quickly and isolate islands like Kawjalein. Land at Eniwetok and build a base. Land LBA and crush him when he comes running back. But most of all have fun doing it and have a Merry Christmas.

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 1:45:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: okami

Actually the Japanese are in a teribble situation. Watch as Trolite over reacts to your landings in the Pacific. You should be prepared to take islands quickly and isolate islands like Kawjalein. Land at Eniwetok and build a base. Land LBA and crush him when he comes running back. But most of all have fun doing it and have a Merry Christmas.

What worries me most in this AAR is that my opponent okami comes to a similar conclusion as I do.

We just started our game (RHS) but I hope it's going to be as interesting as yours is GH.

Merry Christmas everyone!

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 2:20:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: okami

Actually the Japanese are in a teribble situation. Watch as Trolite over reacts to your landings in the Pacific. You should be prepared to take islands quickly and isolate islands like Kawjalein. Land at Eniwetok and build a base. Land LBA and crush him when he comes running back. But most of all have fun doing it and have a Merry Christmas.

Hi Okami,
i won't land immediately at Eniwetok cause i want to avoid his LBA from Truk.
Kwajalein would be closed by BBs and as soon as we estabilish the AFs at Maleop and Wotje, by everything i have that can fly.
I will surely lose some ships due to the hundreds of mines that he surely has posed in the Marshalls and due also to his LBAs that can appear from Formosa. However i think that i has lost so few capital ships during this war that i can be somehow aggressive and accept some losses in terms of CVs and BBs...

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 3:28:59 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/15/42

Ok readers, the first stage of Retribution operation has finally started. Scheldued for mid Feb 42, we're on time.
Let's follow a strict order...:
In India the Kb finally is going south...the channell is open again and my TFs are already moving from Aden to Karachi. Cannot wait too much because every day that passes he advance northwards, estabilishing new AFs closer to Bombay and Karachi.
Today we tried to pay him a visit against a strange 10 ship transport TF between Pengim and Bombay...my unexperienced swordfish crew didn't manage any good hit...however the Cat-n-mouse game with my planes at Bombay is working fine

Now i moved them all back to Karachi...so if he'll come tomorrow he's not going to find anything on my AFs at Bombay

At the same time during nightime a fast transport TF landed a fragment of the 8th NZ Bde at Tarawa. The isle was empty and we managed to conquer it the following day. Tomorrow CD guns, base force, artillery units and another NZ Bde will land.
At the same time we started the bombing campaign over Kwalajein...my B-17s aren't experienced, so the results are a bit poor but i take it and hope they'll get better.
We didn't see any movement of planes from Formosa to Kwalajein....at least for now...moved at Manila one more B-17D group, in order to foul him again with some Long Range naval attacks...this should force him to keep an eye well open on Luzon...

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TF 1075 troops unloading over beach at Tarawa, 84,95

Allied ground losses:
469 casualties reported

So here we go!!

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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 81,84

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 50
LB-30 Liberator x 11
F-4 Lightning x 1

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 15 damaged OUCH!
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
F-4 Lightning: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
all planes bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 17,13 *south of Bombay....the results were poor

...but the psycological effect is gained!*

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 12
Buffalo I x 13
Hurricane IIb x 12
Vildebeest IV x 11
Martin 139 x 9
P-40B Tomahawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 1 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Ryuto Maru
AK Kenshin Maru
AK Shirogane Maru
MSW W.4
AK Akashi Maru
PG Idzumo, Torpedo hits 1
MSW W.1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kosei Maru

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Ground combat at Tarawa

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1599 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 57

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied max assault: 54 - adjusted assault: 28

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 28 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tarawa base !!!

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 3:30:17 PM

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 3:43:40 PM

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This AAR is becoming more and more interesting. I've been lurking for some time waiting impatiently for the Marshalls operation. I do hope you plan to provide plenty of screen shots.

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 3:44:54 PM

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I'm trying to do as much screenshots as possible OSO...will try to be as descrictive as i can!

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/23/2007 10:40:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

I'm trying to do as much screenshots as possible OSO...will try to be as descrictive as i can!

Great read and some good ideas I shall have to consider implementing when it comes to my and Dixie's game.

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RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! - 12/24/2007 2:57:16 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/16/42

A crazy day! I made a huge mistake...left my wirraways on Naval attack, while my bombers were on naval search to avoid the carnage...result is somehow not that bad as i could fear, but could have been defenetly better!! Fierce a2a combats all over the skies of Karachi.The allies lost overall 116 planes, while the KB lost some 85 planes!!! quite a number for the KB!!!
Hi goal seems however to distrupt my ships...very strange indeed...yes he gained points, but strategically i do not think where's the trick!!

He landed a suicide fragment at Bombay, just to take a look at what i have there...this mismatched the movements of my troops at Poona that were catapulted eastwards...

This is a tactic that i hate!

He sent his SCTF to sink my ships at Karachi...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kiso
DD Minekaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze
DD Hokaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
AK Empire Launcelot, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kiso
DD Minekaze
DD Sawakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze
DD Hokaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
TK Empire Coral, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Empire Norse, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Empire Onyx

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kiso
DD Minekaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze
DD Hokaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
AK Derrymore, Shell hits 7
AK Empire Razorbill, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Deslock, Shell hits 1
AK Jalapalaka, Shell hits 5, on fire
AK Madura, Shell hits 2

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kiso
DD Minekaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze
DD Hokaze
DD Nokaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
SC Hollyhock, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
SC Fritillary
MSW Cochin, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
PC Pathan
PC Netravati, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PC Parvati, Shell hits 3, on fire

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Kuma
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
LCVP LCP(L) No. 182, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Kuma
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
AK Orestes, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Kuma
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
AP Cape Sable, Shell hits 35, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 1
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 3

Allied Ships
PG Georges Averoff, Shell hits 32, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
CL Tama

Allied Ships
ML Teviotbank, Shell hits 1
AO Pleiodon, Shell hits 3, on fire
TK Empire Druid, Shell hits 1
AO Appleleaf, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 2
Port hits 2

Then he sent his zeros to sweep over the skies of the Indian city...

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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 74

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Hurricane IIb x 22
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Hurricane IIb: 11 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 18,11

While, as predicted, at Bombay he tried to find my fighters...but none of them was there

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 67
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 58
Ki-21-II Sally x 38
Ki-49 Helen x 41

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18

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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 81,84

Have to keep my bombers down tomorrow...their morale is already very low and only few of them took off

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 2
B-17E Fortress x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB2Y Coronado: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

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Day Air attack on TF at 18,5

Yes, i know...i'm an idiot...

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 194

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Buffalo I x 13
Hurricane IIb x 36
P-40B Tomahawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 19 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Buffalo I: 12 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 32 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 10 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 18,5

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 175

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Buffalo I x 6
Hurricane IIb x 18
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 13 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 3 destroyed
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 18 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 6 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Zuiho

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Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3

His Vals and kates paid an heavy price nonetheless...

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 24

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 8 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Waterhen, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Peisander, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Borgfred, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 25

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Empire Diplomat, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Empire Unity, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
TK Harpa, Bomb hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
B5N2 Kate x 8

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Needwood
AK Matua

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Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 24

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Aorangi
AP Mount Vernon, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 25

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Empire Tamar
AP Empire Trooper, Torpedo hits 1
AP Cap St. Jacques, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Rajula

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Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 11

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Dardanus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Ulysses, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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TF 87 encounters mine field at Bombay (18,11)

TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Bombay, 18,11

The suicide TF....

Japanese Ships
MSW W.16
MSW W.15
MSW W.9
MSW W.8
MSW W.7
MSW W.6
MSW W.4
MSW W.3
MSW W.2
PG Iwate
PG Idzumo
AK Unkai Maru #6, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Bombay, 18,11, firing at TF 87
427 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AK Shirogane Maru
PG Iwate, Shell hits 24
AK Ryuto Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kosei Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Akashi Maru, Shell hits 3

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported

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