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COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/16/2007 6:56:45 AM   
DeadInThrench

 

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Status: offline 		I just DLed a COW scenario from Rugged Defense, the Frist Punic War, and in the zip file there is a file that LOOKS like it is the scenario file (the other is the doc) but it does not end with .sce and the editor would not see it. So, I added the .sce to the file and, well, the editor sez it is invalid.

Looked at the Wargamer Games Depot and the zip file from there had a different name but the same files.

So, anyone know anything about this, and know any way this scenario can be played in TOAW3??

Thanks,

DiT

P.S. Yeah, was looking for a simple scenario that was smaller number of units over longer period of time... and had some PO.
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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/16/2007 8:32:28 AM   
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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/16/2007 5:18:40 PM   
DeadInThrench

 

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Status: offline 		Hmmmm... Opart 3.exe is around 9 Meg in size, while this file is just 95K. Added .exe to the filename and it tried to run in DOS but would say the file is too big. Opened it up in a hex editor and it sez... TOA scenario... <scenario name>... opart 100.

opart 100 sounds like a TOAW 1 scenario but I am not sure.

If it is, any way I can convert it to TOAW3... given I only have TOAW3 not any previous version?

Thanks,

DiT

P.S. The scenario was listed as COW on both RD and GD, but apparently it is not COW.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/16/2007 5:39:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it has to be saved up the line from T2 to COW to T3, but I'm not sure. I posted the same request 10 days ago but got no response. So I guess that no one that has T2 and COW has checked in here recently.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/17/2007 9:12:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		They're for COW100 version. I had no problems opening them OPART CW.exe editor, re-saved them and then opened them in TOAW 3. Most times this works.

Here you have them converted for use in TOAW 3:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PVFFV660

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/17/2007 9:35:14 PM   
sPzAbt653


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Status: offline 		You must have the magical version of COW. I ran OPART CW.exe and opened the editor, but it still wouldn't load any of them. It's encouraging to know that somebody can do it!

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/17/2007 10:28:31 PM   
sPzAbt653


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Status: offline 		But I did get 1st Punic to open, here it is in a zip.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/17/2007 11:00:21 PM   
JapLance


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Status: offline 		Nothing special, ACOW patched to 1.04.01 .

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 2:44:00 AM   
DeadInThrench

 

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Status: offline 		Guys, thanks to you two, I managed to get this 'beer and pretzel' scenario up and running!

Uh, if you are so inclined, the author did two others along these lines, the 2nd Punic War and one called The Restoration of Rome. The author makes no calms about the TOAW engine not really being designed for this period, but given that and the small number of units combined with the length of the scenarios (100 turns or so), make them interesting beer and pretzel games, IMO.

So, if you want to update these so they will run in TOAW3 and upload them with the doc to Games Depot and/or Rugged Defense, well, you can add your name to the credits <g>. Yeah, zip is preferred though I have an 'unrarer' on this computer here someplace.

DiT

P.S. Thanks again for the update!

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 6:04:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		JapLance, I got 1.04.01 also. Could you try this one to see if you can get it?

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 6:31:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		1st and 2nd Punic didnt work for me, but Restoration and pretty much anything from TOAW I to COW works instantly for me.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 6:52:30 AM   
sPzAbt653


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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 7:21:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the conversion of the Punic War scenarios

The author in question is Brian Topp who has some interesting scenarios out there.

About The Restoration Of Rome -I quote:
...basically a chess puzzle - an "alternative history" scenario simulating (as close as I can get TOAW to do it) a fascinating period in the history of the Roman Empire (teleported through a flaw in the space/time continuum to roughly 1934 in TOAW).

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 7:33:56 AM   
DeadInThrench

 

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Status: offline 		Hmmm... yeah... guess I never looked at the zip for Restoration of Rome. The scenario file in there actually ends with .sce and works fine.

So, guess the only one of these three that I don't got working is 2nd Punic War.

Looking at RoR.... hmmm... One item we might add to the official wishlist: Multi-Player Play.

With this, when this option is selected (maybe allowing up to 16 as a max) the number of players on a side would be selected when the game is started and all formations would have to be assigned to this player or that, and then each would have separate turns.

For RoR, maybe 1 player on the Roman side and maybe 5 players on the barbarians side. Being a 120 turn game, would take ages to complete, but would be fun IMO.

With the TOAW3 game system, should fit right in (albeit, each player would do their turn separately), and significant for most of the scenarios, if players want to go that way.

DiT

P.S. Checked the wishlist and it is already there <g>. Whatever.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 7:51:16 AM   
DeadInThrench

 

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Status: offline 		Didn't realize JapLance had included both scenarios in the rar download, so re-downloaded that, dug up my 'unrarer' program, and now got both of these. Yeah, brought up PW2 to take a look and, there is Hannibal with those elephants to start things off.

Thanks for the help on this!

DiT

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 9:27:53 AM   
JapLance


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

JapLance, I got 1.04.01 also. Could you try this one to see if you can get it?


No problem, mate, here it is:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OIHSC14V

Sorry for the RAR files but, believe it or not, I don't use Winzip anymore.

Regarding the conversion to TAOW 3, I think I know what happens here. Older TOAW Vol.1 scenarios need to be saved in the latest patch of TOAW I (1.07 I think) to be able to open them in COW. In this aspect, I always get my scenarios from Rugged Defense, as the webmasters take their time to do this extremely important step. That Franco's Nightmare scenario didn't load as it was in the download sPzAbt653 attached to this post, so I got it from RD and... , everything worked flawlessly.

So the key point here, for very old scenarios at least, is this intermediate action. Saving them in TOAW Vol.1 v1.07 (or its equivalent in TOAW 2) will let you play them in TOAW-COW and TOAW 3.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 9:32:45 AM   
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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 9:51:11 AM   
Silvanski


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Status: offline 		JapLance, now you're at it... I always wanted to look into these two (maybe for future mods)

Corridor of Death
http://www.the-strategist.net/RD/scenarii/display_scenario.php?menu=off&Id=282

Krasni Bor Crucible
http://www.the-strategist.net/RD/scenarii/display_scenario.php?menu=off&Id=179

I second "Dead In Trench" 's suggestion of uploading converted scenarios into one of the games depot.
There are a number of interesting scenarios designed under TOAWI which peeps like me cannot convert.


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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 11:06:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Silvanski

JapLance, now you're at it... I always wanted to look into these two (maybe for future mods)

Corridor of Death
http://www.the-strategist.net/RD/scenarii/display_scenario.php?menu=off&Id=282

Krasni Bor Crucible
http://www.the-strategist.net/RD/scenarii/display_scenario.php?menu=off&Id=179

I second "Dead In Trench" 's suggestion of uploading converted scenarios into one of the games depot.
There are a number of interesting scenarios designed under TOAWI which peeps like me cannot convert.


You wish is my command

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BT0L9LDL

I have a bunch of old TOAW Vol.1 scenarios from Rugged Defense converted. It'd be a pleasure to share them with anybody that wants them, if it's no problem with the original authors.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 11:53:04 AM   
Silvanski


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Status: offline 		Muchas gracias!

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/18/2007 4:13:22 PM   
DeadInThrench

 

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Status: offline 		For what it is worth.... I have never used WinZip. Go a long ways back with PKZip/PKUnZip but, I currently use one called Zip Central, and another called 7-Zip which is what I used as my 'unrarer'. Got both free from download.com.

DiT

P.S. Also got a nice calculater... looks like the calculater that comes with OS, except it has full hexadecimal and other calculations... use that one all the time.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/19/2007 3:31:15 AM   
sPzAbt653


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Status: offline 		That did the trick! Thanks JapLance, Rugged Defense is the answer!

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/19/2007 9:41:27 AM   
JapLance


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Status: offline 		Always glad to help!.

Actually, I thought all this was common knowledge in the TOAW3 World. Maybe an explanation on how to convert very old (pre-COW) scenarios should be stickied in the forums.

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/19/2007 12:07:31 PM   
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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/19/2007 4:18:58 PM   
JapLance


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Status: offline 		Century of War, the version of TOAW prior to TOAW 3.

The whole saga is:

TOAW Vol.1 (1939-1955)
TOAW Vol.2 (1956-2000)
TOAW WOTY (Wargame of the Year)
TOAW COW (Century of War)
TOAW 3 (any extra names here? Matrix Edition perhaps? )

These are the most important editions, there were some others (elite editions, battle packs etc.) but I don't know them by heart .

< Message edited by JapLance -- 11/19/2007 4:21:06 PM >

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/22/2007 10:05:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm in the process of downloading all Vol.1-only scenarios in Rugged Defense and converting them to TOAW3. It'll take me a while (there is about 150) and I still don't know what to do afterwards, but if anybody needs a particular scenario, just whistle .

When I say converting, it means just opening them in COW, saving and reopening in TOAW 3 to save again, nothing else. I haven't tested or edited them in any way, I leave that to more expert people.

< Message edited by JapLance -- 11/22/2007 10:08:21 AM >

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/22/2007 6:18:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JapLance

I'm in the process of downloading all Vol.1-only scenarios in Rugged Defense and converting them to TOAW3. It'll take me a while (there is about 150) and I still don't know what to do afterwards, but if anybody needs a particular scenario, just whistle .

When I say converting, it means just opening them in COW, saving and reopening in TOAW 3 to save again, nothing else. I haven't tested or edited them in any way, I leave that to more expert people.


Great job You rock!
I'm gonna check the TOAWI scens and will PM you a list of the ones which catch my interest.

Maybe you can contact the RD site manager about submitting the conversions to the depot (email address is near the bottom on the "tab" scenarios --> news page)

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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/24/2007 10:33:47 AM   
JapLance


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ORIGINAL: Silvanski
Maybe you can contact the RD site manager about submitting the conversions to the depot (email address is near the bottom on the "tab" scenarios --> news page)


I just posted a new thread in their forums with an explanation and a link to this thread. Hopefully they will answer soon .


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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 11/24/2007 12:11:05 PM   
Silvanski


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Silvanski
Maybe you can contact the RD site manager about submitting the conversions


I just posted a new thread in their forums with an explanation and a link to this thread. Hopefully they will answer soon .



I read it. Wow that's a lot of scenarios you converted, great job!


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RE: COW to TOAW3, Strange - 12/24/2007 3:44:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		btw, if someone could convert and upload a converted version of Mc Bride's Gotterdammerung im Osten 1944-45 it would be great
I erased it since I thought it was the original version of the scenario Silvanski updated earlier, but it is another one

thanks in advance and merry Christmas to all of you

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