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Undocumented Weapons Flags - 1/2/2008 7:38:12 PM

BurntFingers

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Questions about undocumented Weapons Flags

When comparing Weapons Annexes produced from the DBEDIT option Print Annex, I noticed a couple of extras;-

Max Target Speed : 0 kt
Max Target Alt : -90480 m
Min Target Alt : 00 m
Max Separation : 00 m

These are not listed in the editor, and don't seem to exist within the data files themselves... Is it possible that they are there, or will be added later?

It might explain why ANW3.8 does not limit AAA effective height - it's using spurious data.

Oddly, USNI DB values for these are listed as negative numbers.

Can anybody explain? I'll include a full listing of such an entry so you can see where they fit.

=========================================================================
Weapon Annex ID : 19
Version Number : 0
WeaponName : 12.7mm/50 MG Burst
Weapon Type : Gun

Weapon Flags : Local Control Possible
Limited to Mount Arc

Legal Targets :
Surface Vessel
Aircraft
Land Structure
Soft Target

Payload :
12.7mm MG Burst

Fuel :

Propulsion :

Sensors :

Comm :

Directors :

Signatures bow side stern
Passive Sonar 0 0 0
Active Sonar 0 0 0
Visual 0 0 0
Infra-red 0 0 0
Radar 0 0 0
Length : 0.0 m
Span : 0.0 m
Weight : 0 kg
TextIndex : 1
Term. Traj. : 0
Cruise Altitude : 00 m
Waypoints : 0
Surface Near Ph : 25
Surface Far Ph : 15
Near ATA Rating : -29
Far ATA Rating : -29
Max Launch Speed : 0 kt
Min Launch Speed : 0 kt
Max Launch Range : 1.0 nm
Min Launch Range : 0.0 nm
Max Launch Alt : 1000 m
Min Launch Alt : 00 m
Max Target Speed : 0 kt
Max Target Alt : -90480 m
Min Target Alt : 00 m
Max Separation : 00 m
Air Threat Level : 0
Surface Threat : 0
Sub Threat Level : 0
Strike Threat : 0
Climb Rate : 0 m
Animation Index : 6

And a slightly easier question - what are the purposes of the Aircraft Primary AAW Gun and Aircraft Primary AS Gun flags? I can't find them documented anywhere. I presume they are records for mounts on aircraft? Or are they anti-aircraft mounts on aircraft and surface units?

< Message edited by BurntFingers -- 1/2/2008 7:40:37 PM >

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RE: Undocumented Weapons Flags - 1/3/2008 4:47:12 PM

BurntFingers

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quote:

ORIGINAL: VCDH

oh wow....

lol 9000 meters.� Donno if what would be crushed first....the gun or the round flying out of the barrel!

Seeing as it's negative, the gun would recoild upwards and the bullet would be buried in the dirt?

I would think if the bullet pentrated 90km into the earth, you would get a miniature volcano and an M2 in orbit.

quote:

ORIGINAL: VCDH
I'm looking at that same weapon entry now.� I have max speed/altitude/range values in my version of the in game editor.� They are under the ATA fileds for the gun.� My minimum altitude also shows 0.�

No, the Max TARGET height is not the same thing as Max WEAPON height. Target heights and seperation are NOT listed as editable with the ingame editor. It's like there are extra data fields there but the game doesn't let you edit them (and the values it interprets from... I don't know where!)

Print Annex should dump the relevant annex in the Doctrine folder, by the way. Betas put them in the root directory (which is probably more sensible).

quote:

ORIGINAL: VCDH

Given your values the gun would not be able to fire at any platform (IIRC the best depth a sub can do in the ANW DB is 750 meters....certainly no more than 900).�

What I was thinking of... is the game looking at the values? Where's it getting them from?

What determines when a plane (or satellite) is flying too high for a gun to hit it? That's the bottom line.

And finally...

Aircraft Primary AAW Gun and Aircraft Primary AS Gun? What are those flags for?

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ORIGINAL: VCDH

If you want I can send you the latest version of the ANW DB so you can test it.

Later
D

All donations gratefully accepted. I still can't AAA working properly in my database.

< Message edited by BurntFingers -- 1/3/2008 4:50:30 PM >

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