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How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/2/2008 11:04:12 PM

KG Erwin
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I play in the reserve clause era, but many of you use finances. Do you think it's a reasonably accurate representation, or do you manually alter each team's available money?

I'm curious about this, as I may move into the modern era at some point. Actual payroll figures are available, so I will probably input these numbers.

We all know that, despite revenue sharing, some teams are just awash in cash. Smaller-market teams (think my Pirates) just can't compete in signing big-ticket free agents.

So, do you guys really enjoy the accounting aspects of the game?

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RE: How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/2/2008 11:19:19 PM

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When I do fictionals, as I am getting ready to restart with the Minor league teams, I give "Equal Finances", and set at "no financial concerns".

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RE: How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/3/2008 1:53:06 AM

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I do not mind the financials but I play a NY metro team: I have cash to burn. Instead, I find myself looking at ages, performance and how much willing am I to pay long term for these players.

I wonder how much the money part plays into the game. Do players do better in walk years than drop off? Or are all things equal and they play to their "potential"?

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RE: How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/3/2008 5:32:11 AM

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I enjoyed my foray into the financials with the first assn I ran, the Dixie Capital Assn. Some observations:

I ran a 57-year assn using real players. This assn was set up as Multiplayer, with all teams under human control.

The first few seasons, I recall, some teams had trouble staying within the budget and actually had to "sign" some fictional scrubs at very low salaries just to fill out their 35-man roster.

Team bankrolls rose each year, of course. After about 10-15 seasons, the team bankrolls had risen at such a rate that no team ever had a problem with reaching their limits. I noticed a somewhat smaller increase in the max. per-year salaries demanded by the players. Their one-year averages peaked at just under $18 million per season. Up until the final season, players never asked for more than $18 million per season.

The first season (1969), the highest team payroll was Tallahassee's $182.5 M. The lowest was Richmond's $152.0 M. Richmond won their division, but lost in the WS. Tallahassee finished 2nd in their div (out of 5 teams).

The final season (2025), Little Rock had the highest team payroll at $199.7 M. The lowest was Jackson at $126.8 M. Little Rock won their div., but lost in the WS. Jackson finished 4th in their div (out of 7 teams).

I recall team bankrolls in excess of $300 M. Consequently none of the teams ever needed to worry about it after a few seasons. It became kind of like the NFL in that regard. ALL teams had such high bankrolls, even the lowest bankroll could pursue talent at will.

To combat this, I developed my own methods for players declaring free agency, salary arbitration, etc. to maintain a fair balance.

Although my "methods" may not be ideal for everyone, I found the financial model "workable" overall, as Shaun has given the user the ability to enter his own variables. By playing as Multiplayer, I was able to work around any issue and had a blast doing it!!!

During this post, I made the mistake of rebuilding this assn's Almanac.......rrrrrr. I could've sworn I heard my hard drive cursing at me. A 57-year history takes a long time to rewrite

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RE: How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/3/2008 7:19:56 AM

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KG ... I found the financial model can be a challenge to some teams as being managed manually in the long haul, however I agree with motnahp, it doesn't makes a difference who has the most bankroll or the least to win the World Series - it's how you played the game and the ability to bring out the best from the team ... PureSims ROCKS!!

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RE: How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/6/2008 7:10:50 PM

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The financials are a challenge to small market teams for sure and of no concern to the big market cities. I think the player requests during initial draft and FA period are accurate and reflect the players' worth. I am pleased with the financial model, just not so much with how the AI sometimes handles it.

The players have a tough time handling their finances too. I have found that players that don't get signed in the FA period who were demanding millions just drop their salary demand to the league minimum before spring training. Especially position players and especially guys over 28yrs old. I play a small market franchise in my fictional association and I don't sign any players in the FA period. I restock my lineup every season by waiting until the FA period ends and then grabbing all-star players for 5 yrs at the league minimum. I set a limit on myself doing that and sometimes I sign them and trade them for scrubs but that is a glitch in the system I would say.

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RE: How Do You Feel About the Financial Setup? - 2/6/2008 9:21:59 PM

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Financials are the way to go IMO. It makes me look much harder at the individual player stats, histories, age, etc... Fit that in with a salary cap and try to decide whats the best move for the team for the buck$ allowed. Definitely adds another layer of challenge.

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