Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

Situation: AI Russia has declared war on Sweden. France got her, and decided to try something odd: Placing the bulk of the Swedish troops in Sveaborg, in a corps counter. To make the ruse work, I put a 1-factor corps into the two capitals (Stockholm and Abo). As expected, Russia attacked Abo, but left Sveaborg alone. Russia also did not garrison his depot between Sveaborg and Viborg, leaving a tender, tasty morsel for the Swedes to eat.

Russia attacked Abo, broke in, and killed the factor. Then, Russia placed one of her own factors in what looked like the city. However, as will be seen in the picture, it is actually a RURAL garrison, and it is besieging the empty city!

Anyhow. Sweden attacks Abo, and besieges the city. Or, rather, clicks the button that does double-duty: Move into the city or besiege. Well, in this case, it moved Sweden's corps into the city all right, to be besieged by Russia's 1-factor garrison. This went on for 3-4 turns. I kept wondering how I was never breaking in, and then it dawned on me: I wasn't even being given the chance! When I looked carefully, I saw the problem: Russia's 1-factor city garrison (see the picture of the unit in the picture) wasn't IN the city, but in the rural area.

Nothing I could do could correct the problem. I gave up on the game.

NOTE: This is version 1.01b (beta).

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

Situation: AI Russia has declared war on Sweden. France got her, and decided to try something odd: Placing the bulk of the Swedish troops in Sveaborg, in a corps counter. To make the ruse work, I put a 1-factor corps into the two capitals (Stockholm and Abo). As expected, Russia attacked Abo, but left Sveaborg alone. Russia also did not garrison his depot between Sveaborg and Viborg, leaving a tender, tasty morsel for the Swedes to eat.

Russia attacked Abo, broke in, and killed the factor. Then, Russia placed one of her own factors in what looked like the city. However, as will be seen in the picture, it is actually a RURAL garrison, and it is besieging the empty city!

Anyhow. Sweden attacks Abo, and besieges the city. Or, rather, clicks the button that does double-duty: Move into the city or besiege. Well, in this case, it moved Sweden's corps into the city all right, to be besieged by Russia's 1-factor garrison. This went on for 3-4 turns. I kept wondering how I was never breaking in, and then it dawned on me: I wasn't even being given the chance! When I looked carefully, I saw the problem: Russia's 1-factor city garrison (see the picture of the unit in the picture) wasn't IN the city, but in the rural area.

Nothing I could do could correct the problem. I gave up on the game.

NOTE: This is version 1.01b (beta).

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ORIGINAL: Monadman
Jimmer,

I don’t see a rural garrison in Finland. When I run your file everything works just fine. Did you post the correct file? If so, load it again and see if you can duplicate the problem. This may be one of those AI bugs that happen infrequently and are hard to trap with saved games files.

Richard

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ORIGINAL: zaquex

I experienced an interesting repatriation "bug" that at least is new to me even though it might have been reported before.



Playing France I'm besieging Vienna with Napoleon and 4 corps in the area is also Murat with a cav corp but he is not besieging the city.



In the diplomacy phase Austria surrenders unconditionally, ceding bohemia, tyrol and moravia to france. Paying full reparations and giving enforced access to france.

The french forces under napoleon are now repatriated to the new french moravia protectorate but murat in the same area is not repatriated.

The consequenses of this is apart from being inconsistant and wrong also that the french guard corp no longer are within one area of a depot and reinforcements are lost.

Need this to be looked into or alternativly a confirmation its fixed in 1.02

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ORIGINAL: bresh

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ORIGINAL: zaquex

I experienced an interesting repatriation "bug" that at least is new to me even though it might have been reported before.



Playing France I'm besieging Vienna with Napoleon and 4 corps in the area is also Murat with a cav corp but he is not besieging the city.



In the diplomacy phase Austria surrenders unconditionally, ceding bohemia, tyrol and moravia to france. Paying full reparations and giving enforced access to france.

The french forces under napoleon are now repatriated to the new french moravia protectorate but murat in the same area is not repatriated.

The consequenses of this is apart from being inconsistant and wrong also that the french guard corp no longer are within one area of a depot and reinforcements are lost.

Need this to be looked into or alternativly a confirmation its fixed in 1.02

Could be fixed in 1.02, think Marshal wrote instead of teleporting corps, you might get 3 months to leave ?

Regards
Bresh

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ORIGINAL: ndrose

Russia declares war on Sweden, Britain gets control. A couple of possible bugs arise:

First, Britain places a British garrison (as well as the Swedish one) in Stockholm, but there's no depot there. How did they do that? Also, are they allowed to do that even with a depot if they're not supporting the minor by going to war with Russia? (Maybe they are; but it creates a weird situation, as follows.)

Then, the British garrison starts causing other problems. First month, Russia gets no breach, but the Swedish garrison starves, leaving the British garrison. The game then moves the Russian corps out of siege. I suppose that's because Russia and Britain are not at war. However, the Russian corps is not allowed inside the city (which presumably it should be with only a neutral garrison there?) and cannot detach factors to garrison. So the Brit. garrison is treated as hostile for the purpose of Russia getting into the city, but as neutral for the purpose of Russia trying to besiege.

The game will let the Russian corps move back into siege position, but will not let it attempt to assault the city. I haven't seen yet whether the siege puts the British garrison out of supply so that it might at least eventually starve; if not, I guess there will be no way ever to get into the city....

Nathan

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ORIGINAL: zaquex

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ORIGINAL: ndrose

Russia declares war on Sweden, Britain gets control. A couple of possible bugs arise:

First, Britain places a British garrison (as well as the Swedish one) in Stockholm, but there's no depot there. How did they do that? Also, are they allowed to do that even with a depot if they're not supporting the minor by going to war with Russia? (Maybe they are; but it creates a weird situation, as follows.)

Then, the British garrison starts causing other problems. First month, Russia gets no breach, but the Swedish garrison starves, leaving the British garrison. The game then moves the Russian corps out of siege. I suppose that's because Russia and Britain are not at war. However, the Russian corps is not allowed inside the city (which presumably it should be with only a neutral garrison there?) and cannot detach factors to garrison. So the Brit. garrison is treated as hostile for the purpose of Russia getting into the city, but as neutral for the purpose of Russia trying to besiege.

The game will let the Russian corps move back into siege position, but will not let it attempt to assault the city. I haven't seen yet whether the siege puts the British garrison out of supply so that it might at least eventually starve; if not, I guess there will be no way ever to get into the city....

Nathan

This is a serious anomaly and a breach of the rules

As soon as you besiege none hostile forces in an area you are at war with the neutral forces are immidiatly forced to surrender

If marshall implements this rule alot of anomalies disapears


Regards

zaq

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

If GB assigns a fleet to a piracy mission against France (who is at war with GB), it all seems to work. But, the next turn, the fleet will no longer be assigned to any nation. It's just sitting there using up saltwater.

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ORIGINAL: Monadman

Jimmer and zaquex

That is the programs {ahem} strange way of reporting a unit’s location in the Selected Area Info box when the side that controls the city does not also control the territory. Although functional when working (albeit illogical as presented) there are now problems associated with it (not the first time either).

Added it to the list, thanks for the files guys.

Richard

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ORIGINAL: Monadman

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

If GB assigns a fleet to a piracy mission against France (who is at war with GB), it all seems to work. But, the next turn, the fleet will no longer be assigned to any nation. It's just sitting there using up saltwater.

Jimmer,

Click on the fleet in the Privateer screen. Its target should be highlighted with a red border.

Richard

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

Unfortunately, I took that fleet off pirate duty, so I can't give you the saved game. I'll try to reproduce in a non-PBEM game and post the save files.

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

Bresh,

I've seen that, too. I wasn't sure until two days ago if it was really happening, but yes, it was definitely not showing up (some times -- other times it worked).

I can get a saved game file showing this, if you guys need it (actually, gwheelock has the saved games where this is occurring.

Bresh, was your game a PBEM game, or a "human vs. AI" game? Ours is PBEM.

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ORIGINAL: bresh

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

Bresh,

I've seen that, too. I wasn't sure until two days ago if it was really happening, but yes, it was definitely not showing up (some times -- other times it worked).

I can get a saved game file showing this, if you guys need it (actually, gwheelock has the saved games where this is occurring.

Bresh, was your game a PBEM game, or a "human vs. AI" game? Ours is PBEM.

Nope, all humans, I was wondering if gamelog only able to show 1 move-change during the turn, and Naval-move beeing first. So GB's in this case.
You might only see France changing move-order, if GB doesnt change his naval-moveorder same turn.

Regards
Bresh