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The Tudors - 2/28/2008 9:07:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone watching this cool tv-series?

Shouldn't this inspire some new cool rennaissance games? So much
intrigue and sex(ok skip the last part for the game but the rest).

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RE: The Tudors - 2/28/2008 9:21:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is it good? The promos make it seem like one big soap opera. I had been looking forward to it, but there always seems to be something else I'd rather watch. Is it as good, say, as HBO's/BBC's "Rome," which it seems to be trying to outdo?

Of course, if a developer did a Tudors game they could hide some sex scenes as Easter eggs, and then let the outcry serve as free publicity...

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RE: The Tudors - 2/28/2008 12:04:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is good, its like Crusader Kings in tv form

Hardly very historical but it would make a great platform for a game. It has
all the elements I like, intrigue, history(some) and sex.

Though, if you are the type that has to double check a lexicon for accuracy every other scene then it might not be the best.

All the characters are there though. And gorgeous women.

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RE: The Tudors - 2/28/2008 9:24:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its not too bad a series,lots of innaccuracies but what the hell,is history 100% reliable?Cant wait for the second series.

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RE: The Tudors - 2/28/2008 10:24:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I liked the first series. It kind of fills in the blanks on Henry's fickle diplomacy. Whether the series provides historical reasons is another question, but it reminds you that personality and family ties had as much to do with diplomacy as similar objectives and common sense in the age of kings.

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RE: The Tudors - 2/28/2008 10:42:16 PM   
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How come the most prolific regent they ever had, almost never had any good
series/movie about her. There has been some but they werent all inclusive or just
didn't have the right budget.
I am of course talking about Queen Victoria.
With all the murder attempts she survived it would make a great high budget series.
Nevermind the huge empire she administrated longer than anyone else before or after.

Give me a Vicky series :).




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RE: The Tudors - 2/28/2008 11:58:41 PM   
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Hardly very historical but it would make a great platform for a game. It has
all the elements I like, intrigue, history(some) and sex


Bit like the present royal family...oops MI5 are probably monitoring this ....only joking. i'm sure the rich, pompous, land stealing, nose looking down, hereditary monachy we have are really nice people.

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RE: The Tudors - 2/29/2008 6:35:50 AM   
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RE: The Tudors - 2/29/2008 8:41:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: marcusm

Regarding British/English kings and movies.

How come the most prolific regent they ever had, almost never had any good
series/movie about her. There has been some but they werent all inclusive or just
didn't have the right budget.
I am of course talking about Queen Victoria.
With all the murder attempts she survived it would make a great high budget series.
Nevermind the huge empire she administrated longer than anyone else before or after.

Give me a Vicky series :).






Well she did reign for many many years and alot of it was quite boring and dead as a dodo regarding excitement.Plus you would have to be very careful as not to offend
a.The Germans
b.The Russians
c.The British
d.The South Africans
e.The Chinese
f.The Indians
g.The Australians.
h.The Canadians
i.The New ealanders
j.The Gurkhas
k.The Malayans
l.The Singaporeans
m.The Arabs


im sure theres more but i think that will be enough to be going on with.



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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 2:19:53 AM   
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I doubt anyone would be offended by a historically correct (yet interesting) series.

Obviously one would have to pick "highlights" from her life but it would be the same with
any attempt at making a movie of anyone. You need to use some creative freedom like Tudors
to make it exciting, as long as it doesn't go to "Michael Bay" extremes.

I just find this period the most interesting in British history. This small island managed to affect
the entire World in a profound way (even though it started earlier).


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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 6:09:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: marcusm

Regarding British/English kings and movies.

How come the most prolific regent they ever had, almost never had any good
series/movie about her. There has been some but they werent all inclusive or just
didn't have the right budget.
I am of course talking about Queen Victoria.
With all the murder attempts she survived it would make a great high budget series.
Nevermind the huge empire she administrated longer than anyone else before or after.

Give me a Vicky series :).






Wow, I thought she was well liked. I never knew that there were multiple murder attempts on her!

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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 6:53:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

I liked the first series. It kind of fills in the blanks on Henry's fickle diplomacy. Whether the series provides historical reasons is another question,



It would of been interesting if they had reporters as we do today. Could you imagine what would happen if that reporter asked Henry a question about his policies.This might be the answer.

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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 7:02:05 AM   
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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 8:29:48 AM   
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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 8:34:03 AM   
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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 12:57:49 PM   
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actors in stiff dramas just doesn't cut it anymore.


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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 7:53:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I'm looking forward to is the forthcoming series of George R R Martin's A Song Of Ice and Fire. Rome was excellent but although I haven't yet watched the Tudors, and I probably will, so dont spoil the storyline whenever the trailers came on tv it seemed to have the appearance of a soap opera with lots of moody looks and shouting...Hope I'm wrong.

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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 8:33:25 PM   
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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 8:48:08 PM   
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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 9:43:17 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxtIt_PQHiE

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RE: The Tudors - 3/2/2008 11:51:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is it as fallacious as I suspect that so many movies/shows show Henry VIII as a good looking and athletic guy?  I'm referencing mainly "The Tudors" and also "The Other Boleyn Girl" movie that just came out-  I was always under the impression that Henry was a gluttonous, fat tub of lard for most of his life, but am not Medieval history expert so might be wrong...

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RE: The Tudors - 3/3/2008 12:06:22 AM   
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I doubt the women had those nice racks as well ;).




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RE: The Tudors - 3/3/2008 10:31:01 PM   
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Is it as fallacious as I suspect that so many movies/shows show Henry VIII as a good looking and athletic guy?  I'm referencing mainly "The Tudors" and also "The Other Boleyn Girl" movie that just came out-  I was always under the impression that Henry was a gluttonous, fat tub of lard for most of his life, but am not Medieval history expert so might be wrong...


From memory, I think he started to supersize in his late thirties, early forties.

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RE: The Tudors - 3/4/2008 8:42:59 AM   
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RE: The Tudors - 3/4/2008 3:08:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Apparently he was very active for most of his life, played sport, chased women, ate well.

He had an accident that injured his leg late in life (stopping his active life style but not his appetite) and within a couple of years was dead.

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RE: The Tudors - 5/28/2008 9:05:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Having caught up on Season 1 back in March and finished with Season 2 two nights ago, I'd like to thank you all for the recommendation. It is definitely an excellent series, and is reasonably close to history (from what I can tell). The best part is how the series looks -- it does for Tudor England what HBO's "Rome" did for, well, Rome. (That said, I think that "Rome" was the better series because its writing, especially in terms of dialogue, was clearly superior. In "The Tudors," the dialogue is more than adequate, but not brilliant.)


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