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Campaign Questions - 3/27/2008 2:29:58 PM

hobobeast

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Just picked up this game from matrix and it looks pretty interesting. Can you guys help me with a few campaign questions:

1. Any way to change the airfield of planes assigned to your command?

2. Is there a way to pick which planes go on which raids. Whenever I generate a Raid the game seems to pick the planes from the worst airfields to attack the specific location.

3. Lastly, which setting allows you to have the plane identifiers shown on the screen when in combat? My old monitor cannot pick out a plane at more than 600 yards.

Thanks,

Hobo

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/27/2008 5:21:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: hobobeast

Just picked up this game from matrix and it looks pretty interesting. Can you guys help me with a few campaign questions:

1. Any way to change the airfield of planes assigned to your command?

LW or RAF ? , I not sure about the LW but the RAF, yes, bring up the unit page/popup, where it shows the Dairy button, it will show airfield and command, you can change those to what you want, it may take a day or so, for the order to go though

2. Is there a way to pick which planes go on which raids. Whenever I generate a Raid the game seems to pick the planes from the worst airfields to attack the specific location.

I have to go look, in testing, I been working on the RAF side for the tests, so out of patices with the LW

3. Lastly, which setting allows you to have the plane identifiers shown on the screen when in combat? My old monitor cannot pick out a plane at more than 600 yards.

if I read you right, you can hit the T key, and it will bring up a color line saying what the plane type is, in the settings, you can work with what colors you want

Thanks,

Hobo

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/27/2008 5:34:55 PM

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open up the Squadron pop up, and pick a Squadron

go to that units pop up, at the bottom there are two bottons for the airfield and Command

here I have told the 609 Squadron from MiddleWallop 10 Group to go to Biggen Hill 11 Group

either during the day or at the end of the day, the move should take place

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/27/2008 5:40:13 PM

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not a good snap but shows the idea

hit the T key and you get a colored label for the planes

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/27/2008 7:00:13 PM

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Thanks Guys.

As best as I can tell, the ability to change airfields is limited to the RAF. That is too bad, I really wanted to try a different approach to the battle.

- Hobo

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/27/2008 7:11:37 PM

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well, won't hurt to ask, but to be honest, the LW should be able to change, I believe it was the 29st Aug, most of the fighter units from Luft 3 were moved into the Luft 2 area, along with the Stuka units, and Luft 3 pretty much went over to night bombing (which was the plan)

a number of the units in Luft 3 were there just for the Kanalkampf

we got some other issues we working on right now, but I hope we can get some OOB work in also

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/30/2008 4:08:01 AM

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HARD,

Fear not to post your OOB thinking at the BoBII Shockwave forum. I told you to do this before.
You may be treated as a presumptive, ignorant, colonial American, and have a hail storm
of mud clods, rocks, and (my favorite) snow balls packed around a pebble core!
missiles thrown your way.
I toss a few rocks at the Englishmen myself.

I'll not contest your research with Battle of Britain. Never researched it myself.
Doubt that many of the hard core Englishmen at BoBII know much of the LuftWaffe.
Fear not! and Fire Away!

Aloha!
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Battle of Britain Developemnet Group.

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/30/2008 4:15:22 AM

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oh never fear on that account, Buddye got alot on his plate right now

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/30/2008 4:23:49 AM

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hobo,

The LW player cannot transfer air units to different fields.
If the game was made in Berlin, instead of London, the LW Campaign may have had more attention paid to it.
(did I just toss a rock at the English!?)

That said, I have a lot fun with LW Campaign, even with the problems we have with it.
This airfield transfer deficiency will not be fixed soon. Other problems being looked at first.

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/30/2008 7:34:15 AM

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Though the Luftwaffe player cannot start out picking which units are assigned to a raid, once a raid is generated the assigned units can be changed. I can't recall exactly how at the moment, but it is in the manual. It involves changing the assigned gruppen once the computer has drawn up an initial raid.

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/30/2008 11:30:27 PM

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Hey Guys -

There is definetly a Britt perspective to the game. Don't get me wrong, I do like it. I just wish the LW campaign was a little more polished. A few more questions and comments after a few more hours of playing:

    1. I knocked out the low range Radars but keep getting intercepted in the channel when attacking at the lowest allowable height. Do you think this is do to faulty intelligence or does the game not really model the radar stations?

    2. There has to be a simpler way to show on the map which units are where. I just want to click on a handful of airports to select the proper groups, click on the target or a location for a sweep, and select a RAID button for the raid to be generated.

    3. I am getting frustrated trying to get the bombers and fighters I want for a particular raid. The groups I want seem to be available and ready, but I am not allowed to access them. Do you think it is cockpit error (me) or game bugs?

    4. I would love to send ME110 fighter sweeps but it appears they can only be used as an escort.

    5. Frequently my fighters and bombers seem to miss their renedvous resulting bombers attacking alone and getting slaughtered.   I guess this is real life circa-1939 but I wish I could have an option just to come home if the fighters get lost.

    6. Would be nice if the strategic map showed the location of the individual groups. I would love to know without jumping in the cockpit whtrher my bombers were by themselves.

I will stop the rant here. Again, great game. My plan was to play LW and get use it before playing the RAF as it was probably intended.

- Hobo

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/30/2008 11:59:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hobobeast

Hey Guys -

There is definetly a Britt perspective to the game. Don't get me wrong, I do like it. I just wish the LW campaign was a little more polished. A few more questions and comments after a few more hours of playing:

1. I knocked out the low range Radars but keep getting intercepted in the channel when attacking at the lowest allowable height. Do you think this is do to faulty intelligence or does the game not really model the radar stations?

one of the setting for the RAF is to patrol holes in the radar screen, you may be hitting patrols ?

2. There has to be a simpler way to show on the map which units are where. I just want to click on a handful of airports to select the proper groups, click on the target or a location for a sweep, and select a RAID button for the raid to be generated.

3. I am getting frustrated trying to get the bombers and fighters I want for a particular raid. The groups I want seem to be available and ready, but I am not allowed to access them. Do you think it is cockpit error (me) or game bugs?

4. I would love to send ME110 fighter sweeps but it appears they can only be used as an escort.

5. Frequently my fighters and bombers seem to miss their renedvous resulting bombers attacking alone and getting slaughtered. I guess this is real life circa-1939 but I wish I could have an option just to come home if the fighters get lost.

we working on this

6. Would be nice if the strategic map showed the location of the individual groups. I would love to know without jumping in the cockpit whtrher my bombers were by themselves.

which settings are you using, you can set the icons for the screen, to I believe, JG, Gruppen, or Staffel, I think it is the filter button

I will stop the rant here. Again, great game. My plan was to play LW and get use it before playing the RAF as it was probably intended.

- Hobo

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/31/2008 12:26:02 AM

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2. There has to be a simpler way to show on the map which units are where.

Yes, there should be, in game. I have been think of making some printable maps with the names of all units by each airfield icon. Would this help?

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3. I am getting frustrated trying to get the bombers and fighters I want for a particular raid. The groups I want seem to be available and ready, but I am not allowed to access them. Do you think it is cockpit error (me) or game bugs?

This bad coding I think. It is also the most frustrating thing for me in the LW Campaign.
Often, I have do some strange clicking and re-clicking to get what I want, and sometimes I still cannot get what I think should be allowed.
i know of no dependable work-around for this.

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4. I would love to send ME110 fighter sweeps but it appears they can only be used as an escort.

I mostly use ME110's as bombers, escorted and unescorted. Rarely do I use them as escorts.
So, they are not only used as escorts.

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5. Frequently my fighters and bombers seem to miss their renedvous resulting bombers attacking alone and getting slaughtered. I guess this is real life circa-1939 but I wish I could have an option just to come home if the fighters get lost.

This is aproblem we will soon try to fix. I have a manual work-around that will make the Fighters and Bombers rendevous OK 90% of the time.
Basically, it is this: Drag the Fighter Rendevous Way Point back and onto the Bomber Rendevous Way Point.
Try it.

BTW, I usually use One Icon per Staffel. This is in Filters - Aircraft menu.
This way the map icons seem to look to be at more actual locations. The 2D map icons do behave oddly at times.

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/31/2008 5:02:59 AM

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I started to make some maps with the airfields named, and the units assigned to each.
First, I needed two printed out sheets of paper to tell me where the game assignes units.
Here is the ME110's and and the Stukas. (print the JPEG in portrait)

Here is the Kampf & Jagd Geschwaderen. (print in Landscape) Made to fit a clip board.

Aloha!

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/31/2008 9:44:05 AM

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I whipped this up tonight, for Pas de Calais.
Trying to make it printable, which it is,
(though beware! the price of color ink cartridges surpasses the price of gasoline!)

Pas de Calais area has 4 of 5 of the Lufftflotte 2 ME109 fighters, concentrated forward.
You will see some Ju88 and Stuka units here too, that are from Luftflotte 3.
I have given a purple slash on these.
I do not assigne units, only illustrate where upon they be.

For the other airfields, I can put them on two more pages, for those that like to refer to a printed page,
when wondering "where the faak is every body!?"

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RE: Campaign Questions - 3/31/2008 2:40:30 PM

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Hmmmmm

we need work on the OOB that is for sure

there is no III/ZG2 until 1942

we missing all of the LG's, that gives another Gruppen of 109s and 110s, plus a Stuka Gruppen, not to mention the 3 bomber Gruppens that are missing

we get one of the ZG Gruppen from X. Fliegerkorps, but none of the bombers

and, for the way you use the 110s, we should have ErprGr 210 added

also, KG 76 should be bomb groups, not recon units, the LW did have it's own recon units

and to be honest, I think the RAF OOB is worse then the LW

not to mention, getting the names correct

but when they are ready, we got lots to talk about

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