Curtis Lemay
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It looks like P1/P2 problem is Ralph priority. I've looked again at the wishlist and must say, that I would like to suggest different solutions of supply and movement recovery.
Presten Bob's propositions are:
1.1.1 Each side's supply computations occur separately at start of respective player turns
1.1.2 Each side's movement recovery occurs at start of both player turns (recovered twice per game turn)
So, both players are TOAW3 P1 on supply and movement recovery. Both get full penalty in the case of unit's sully line cut by enemy and no benefit if the cut supply line are restored during own turn but cut again in next enemy's turn. There is no reduction of unit's movement rate if the unit is retreated or it moved as a reserve. The simple alternative is to make both players TOAW3 P2. This way there is no penalty for cut supply line as long as you are able to restore it in your own turn but full reduction of movement rate in the case of retreat. But..
What about a compromise - both side have supply check and movement recovery at begining of each player's turn, but with halved values: 1) An unit gets half of present supply at beginning of enemy turn (if supplied) and the second half at beginning of own turn (if still supplied). It's unsupplied in own turn, if enemy cut her supply line, but it's supplied in enemy turn if was able to restore it.
2) An unit get half of it's movement rate at beginning of enemy turn - if it isn't attacked or doesn't react as reserve, it gets the second half of its movement allowances at beginning of own turn. If it's movement ability, available in enemy turn, is consumed, it have only 1/2 of potential movamant allowances at the beginning of own turn.
You've forgotten about variable initiative. You can have two friendly turns in a row or two enemy turns in a row. Even without that, you wouldn't get the same full recovery as now, since part of the movement recovery would be made with only half the supply recovery.
There are ways to account for retreat & reserve movement with the way we're doing it. We would just have to keep track of what that movement cost was and then deduct it after the next friendly recovery phase. Now if I can just convince Ralph & James to go along. So far, they haven't thought it's worth the effort.
I can see some slight merit to doing the supply calculations twice @ half-rate. But note that that will double the calculation time from how it works now. Is that worth the benefit? Plus, the supply values are integers, so halving it would cause rounding effects that would give slightly different results from how it works now.
< Message edited by Curtis Lemay -- 3/31/2008 7:48:36 PM >
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P1/P2 supply and movement recovery - 
. I'm not Monty - I've found encirclement as basic military procedure. This is the really important P2 adventage - if I'm able just to make a (for sure) temporary, very weak encirclement, I'm sure that all encircled units will be unsupplied during my next attacks. So, I prefer such weak encirclement to save my troops for a general attack in next turn to make a final, strong encirclement. P2 as defender needn't be affraid about weak units cutting my supply lines - I have my whole turn to restore the supply line before my troops get any negative effect. You find this a very minor problem?
We could try a match of Agonya y Vicoria by JMS 
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