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Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:31:29 AM   
John 3rd


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Hi Forum.

I am debating on letting my Japanese CV air groups to changeover from the 1/3 F, 1/3 DB, 1/3 TB composition. What do people think about that? I HATE losing those Kates/Jills but can always use more Fighters.

If I do go with the change all I have to do is be disbanded in a Port, have plenty of supply, and set my Daitai to accept replacements--Right?



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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:38:23 AM   
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Er, that composition happens by itself. Nothing you can do about it.

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:50:53 AM   
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True, you never know when or if that will happen.  I have a carrier in Apr 43 that still has the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3.  It still hasn't converted.

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:55:04 AM   
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I must have missed something somewhere. The group ratios change at some point?


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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 1:06:32 AM   
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Well I am in March 1943 with Canoerebel and NONE of my CV Air Groups have changed!  Until about 10 days ago nearly all of my CVs were in Tokyo/Osaka...

Mynok--They change from the 1/3--1/3--1/3 to 3/8--3/8--2/8 or, more simply, in a 72 plane CV from 21--21--21 to 27--27--18.


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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 1:21:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Well I am in March 1943 with Canoerebel and NONE of my CV Air Groups have changed!  Until about 10 days ago nearly all of my CVs were in Tokyo/Osaka...

Mynok--They change from the 1/3--1/3--1/3 to 3/8--3/8--2/8 or, more simply, in a 72 plane CV from 21--21--21 to 27--27--18.



Isn't it rather 24-24-24 to 27-27-18? (for a CV with 72 planes)
and 21-21-21 to 24-24-15? (for a CV with 63 planes)
but i don't know when it happens

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 4:16:01 AM   
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Color me silly! 

I needed another beer to catch that mistake!  Must have been thinking of Hiryu/Soryu and not the larger flattops...

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 7:32:37 AM   
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It is just my opinion but from a performance view I would want more Kates not less.

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 2:15:28 PM   
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I've had some of my Japanese carriers do odd things. 

27-24-18 Akagi
23-24-21 Soryu
23-23-15 Hiryu
24-24-24 Shokaku
24-27-18 Zuikaku

This is in Apr 43, stock.

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 4:26:24 PM   
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quote:

If I do go with the change all I have to do is be disbanded in a Port, have plenty of supply, and set my Daitai to accept replacements--Right?


If the mechanics are the same as for Allies, then you need a Command HQ affiliated with that port (base) to be present (e.g. Home Defense HQ).



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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 4:45:08 PM   
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He, they are 2 "Sylvester" on this forum

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 5:09:12 PM   
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quote:

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He, they are 2 "Sylvester" on this forum


Oh, goodie...I don't need to fear Pepe Le Phew any more...



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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/4/2008 2:22:01 AM   
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I had my CVs upgrading and disbanded in Toyko and Osaka for quite a while before they left and their Air Groups NEVER changed. 

I love the Kates as well... 

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/4/2008 2:54:25 AM   
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I hate the Kates  ...the less the better.

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/5/2008 1:24:51 AM   
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I do have to admit that I have thought about pulling a DB Daitai off of one the 72 plane Japanese CVs and replacing it with a CV Capable Torpedo Daitai.  Imagine:  24 Zero and 48 Kates!  That would be quite fun to do.  Wonder if that is gamey?


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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/5/2008 4:18:00 AM   
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Not gamey, IMO. Just don't want to be on the receiving end of it.

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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/5/2008 9:13:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

I had my CVs upgrading and disbanded in Toyko and Osaka for quite a while before they left and their Air Groups NEVER changed.

I love the Kates as well...


Did you have Home Defense Force HQ present in either Tokyo or Osaka?

BTW, the trigger date (according to manual ) is July 1st 1942.



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RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/6/2008 4:49:28 AM   
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I did have everything in place at Tokyo as well as HQ units in Osaka.  Didn't get the upgrade...

I have decided that CV Akagi or Kaga is going to be transformed into a Kate CV:  24 A6M3a and 51 Kates...

EVIL!


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