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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/3/2008 3:07:32 AM   
tekk

 

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Joined: 1/9/2008
Status: offline 		Wow they've lost a ton of tanks too. Are you able to fly in troops or does his CAP devastate your transport planes to much?

< Message edited by tekk -- 4/3/2008 3:12:50 AM >

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Then it hit me so hard...like a perfect diamond shot me right in the forehead, the will to do something like that

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/3/2008 4:40:24 PM   
IKerensky

 

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Status: offline 		Nice job the both of you. I am surprised to see Andy fly his B-29 at the minimum 6.000 feet against your Figthers... Wouldn't you have more losses and him less if he fly the super at 10-15.000 feet ? with more than 200 of them I dont think he will lack too much in payload delivery...

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/3/2008 5:28:18 PM   
wild_Willie2


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Joined: 10/8/2004
From: Arnhem (holland) yes a bridge to far...
Status: offline 		Remember that this is a STOCK game, AA effect is minimal in stock and 4E accuracy is maximal at 6000 feet.... 200 B-29's have a HUGE detection value, so the chance of escaping fighter interception by bombing at higher altitude is almost nill..

So bombing at higher altitudes would decrease accuracy, but would yield about the same losses as bombing from 6000 feet...

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In vinum illic est sapientia , in matera illic est vires , in aqua illic es bacteria.

In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is strength, in water there are bacteria.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 1:14:32 AM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
Joined: 10/3/2000
From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		I have expended most transport ac by now. Trying to rebuild a few units but it will take time.
Uber CAP shoots down most flying object around Amami.

Today I readied another 600 fighters and 400 bombers.
Had hoped to both weaken the enemy CAG even more and then hit the carriers at Amami.

Some fighters were sent on LRCAP, these did a good job - even a few Shindens somehow managed to
stray in.

The sweep fighters came in piecemeal - even those launched from the same base. Why is this
Had hoped to weaken enemy Uber CAP - or at least disrupt it. Think we succeeded, but not enough to
allow enough bombers to get through.

Kamikaze ac launched in dribs and drabs while the only 'big strike' was another mediocre affair were
most bombers stayed home. It's so frustrating - we have the means to finish the enemy but the game
just doesn't allow me enough coordination to use them

We only sank a destroyer today, but another CVE was reported sunk (another 2 had lucky escapes from our LBA).
It took with it 25 Corsairs to the bottom

Enemy surface ships also caused some carnage but quite a few troop ships managed to unload and I'm hoping that
Amami can hold for a while. Supplies are getting scarce and I'm concentrating on running in more from now on.

In India Dehli fell - it's a slow campaign. I'm only trying to hold on to Bombay and Karachi for as long as possible
and tie up enemy resources.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/27/45

Night Air Combat

Thought I was finally going to hit something, but no luck as usual.
Never any luck against Andy

Night Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
H8K Emily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill
CV Enterprise

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x H8K Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x H8K Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AG AG-111, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Kete
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Sub attack at 56,43

Japanese Ships
AG AG-355, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O23
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Arrgh, more bad luck! Scratched together another few ships and the last light cruiser
was torpedoed in Nagasaki. She survived but is all wrecked and of no use for the rest of the war....

Sub attack near Nagasaki at 58,42

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Natsuzuki

Allied Ships
SS Jack
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Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Kagoshima at 58,43

Japanese Ships
AP America Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Clarence Bronson
DD Wilkes
DD Arunta
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Sikisan Maru, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AG AG-107
AG AG-110
AG AG-355
AG AG-356
AG AG-363, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-5069, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-5090, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5117
AG AG-5138
AG AG-5142
AG AG-5143, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-2055
AG AG-2058, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Fukusei Maru, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely

Japanese ground losses:
778 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Taito Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely

Japanese ground losses:
1200 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Higane Maru, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Takao , at 48,45

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 52
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Day Air attack on Tainan , at 48,44

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 22
A-26B Invader x 110

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 106
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 4
A-26B Invader x 82

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 101
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Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 29
Mosquito FB.VI x 15
PB4Y Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 28
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Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 33
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10


Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
TBM Avenger x 11

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1
Port hits 1
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 23

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 21

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A7M2 Reppu x 1
Ki-100 Tony x 15
Ki-102a Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
P-51D Mustang x 6
P-61A Black Widow x 4
B-29 Superfortress x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-61A Black Widow: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
Ki-100 Tony x 5
Ki-102a Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 5
B-24J Liberator x 6
B-29 Superfortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Runway hits 3
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 56

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F4U-1D Corsair x 21
F6F-5N Hellcat x 17
TBM Avenger x 4
Kittyhawk III x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
17 x F6F-5N Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-5N Hellcat x 19
P-51D Mustang x 12
P-61A Black Widow x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 8 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed
P-61A Black Widow: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on 33rd USA Division, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 17

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-5N Hellcat x 19
P-51D Mustang x 11
P-61A Black Widow x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 17 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 damaged
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-61A Black Widow: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on 38th USA Division, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 11

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-5N Hellcat x 19
P-51D Mustang x 10
P-61A Black Widow x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-61A Black Widow: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on 38th USA Division, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
C6N1-S Myrt x 17

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-5N Hellcat x 18
P-51D Mustang x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 8 destroyed
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Day Air attack on 121st Naval Construction Battalion, at 27,21

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Mixed/A Brigade, at 20,10

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 9


Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 41st USA Division, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-5N Hellcat x 18
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 damaged
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 37th USA Division, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 21

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 44
F6F-5N Hellcat x 17
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 21 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-5N Hellcat: 2 destroyed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A7M2 Reppu x 1
Ki-100 Tony x 12
Ki-102a Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
SB2C Helldiver x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 11 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14
MSW W.22

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 4
Ki-102a Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
SB2C Helldiver x 6
TBM Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Mitsuki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 2
TBM Avenger x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Tsuyama Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Shoto Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 35
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
SB2C Helldiver x 5
TBM Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 4 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Osaka Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Miyazaki Maru, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 19
F4U-1D Corsair x 11
SB2C Helldiver x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Chinko Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Amagi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kasuga Maru #2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 5
SOC-3 Seagull x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Mayasan Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x SOC-3 Seagull bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 1
SOC-3 Seagull x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kidokawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x SOC-3 Seagull bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SOC-3 Seagull bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 1

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Daihachikyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zeke x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zeke: 3 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 5

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 6
A6M5c Zeke x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 6 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed
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Today's "Main strike" - unfortunately 200 naval bomber stayed home...

Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 63
D4Y Judy x 3
B7A Grace x 15
G4M2 Betty x 38
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 6
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 54
Ki-100 Tony x 29

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F6F Hellcat x 71
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 42
F6F-5N Hellcat x 15
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 63 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed
B7A Grace: 14 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 30 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 54 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 29 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 23 destroyed, 11 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 19 destroyed, 4 damaged
F6F-5N Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill
CLAA Tucson
CV Shangri-La

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 48
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-5N Hellcat x 11
P-51D Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 14
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7
Ki-100 Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 48
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-5N Hellcat x 11
P-51D Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 14 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 7 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 46
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-5N Hellcat x 11
P-51D Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DE Charles E. Brannon
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 5

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 46
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-5N Hellcat x 11
P-51D Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,48

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships - ah, to bad...
CVE Hollandia

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 5

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 46
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-5N Hellcat x 11
P-51D Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 63,46

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Arunta
DD Clarence Bronson

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 47,48

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
AGC Rocky Mount

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 46
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-5N Hellcat x 11
P-51D Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
SB2C Helldiver x 8
F6F-5N Hellcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Awata Maru, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 1
SB2C Helldiver x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Sinko Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-5N Hellcat x 2
TBM Avenger x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Sado Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-5N Hellcat x 2
TBM Avenger x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Etashima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-5N Hellcat x 1
TBM Avenger x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Unyo Maru #2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 25
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 7
F6F-5N Hellcat x 3
TBM Avenger x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 4 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Nojima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 2

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 8
SB2C Helldiver x 4
F6F-5N Hellcat x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Nanrei Maru, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 1

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Arisan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 46,48

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Magoffin
AP Custer, Bomb hits 1
AP Windsor
LSD Casa Grande, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,42

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 3
B7A Grace x 7
G4M2 Betty x 2
Ki-49 Helen x 3
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Farenholt, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 9000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 59
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 35
F6F-5N Hellcat x 14
P-51D Mustang x 7
P-61A Black Widow x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 66 - mostly kamikaze Reppus (reformed Zeke units that were withdrawn and came back with Reppus)
A6M5c Zeke x 2
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 4
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 18
Ki-100 Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 59
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 35
F6F-5N Hellcat x 14
P-51D Mustang x 7
P-61A Black Widow x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 66 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 2 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 18 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-61A Black Widow: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill
CV Enterprise
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Day Air attack on TF at 47,48

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Manderson Victory

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 46,48

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Takanis Bay

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Delhi

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 53735 troops, 442 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 1410

Defending force 5077 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Allied max assault: 2264 - adjusted assault: 1430

Japanese max defense: 69 - adjusted defense: 53

Allied assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Delhi base !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
535 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Bombay

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37579 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1484

Defending force 87974 troops, 593 guns, 186 vehicles, Assault Value = 1148

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Amami

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 246418 troops, 1785 guns, 1019 vehicles, Assault Value = 4468

Defending force 72498 troops, 502 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 1499

Japanese ground losses:
538 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 3
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Ground combat at Ahmadabad

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7420 troops, 85 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 200

Defending force 10088 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 230

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Air Losses

Horrrible losses, but another 110 Corsairs and Hellcats are down and out.
Andy must be wondering if we're ever are going to run out




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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 9:55:27 AM   
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Remember that this is a STOCK game, AA effect is minimal in stock and 4E accuracy is maximal at 6000 feet.... 200 B-29's have a HUGE detection value, so the chance of escaping fighter interception by bombing at higher altitude is almost nill..

So bombing at higher altitudes would decrease accuracy, but would yield about the same losses as bombing from 6000 feet...


I thought that even in the stock game the fighter performance were alterated by altitude....

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 11:26:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KERENSKY


quote:

ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

Remember that this is a STOCK game, AA effect is minimal in stock and 4E accuracy is maximal at 6000 feet.... 200 B-29's have a HUGE detection value, so the chance of escaping fighter interception by bombing at higher altitude is almost nill..

So bombing at higher altitudes would decrease accuracy, but would yield about the same losses as bombing from 6000 feet...


I thought that even in the stock game the fighter performance were alterated by altitude....




only the Airacobra is hit by a penalty if operating over 10.000ft. No difference for all other aircraft.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 12:58:48 PM   
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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 1:03:54 PM   
1275psi

 

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you lost more planes this week than I build against tabpub in 6 months!

OH, to have such resources at my fingertips

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 6:30:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Also the Wirraway suffers from the same altitude problems afaik


As well as many other problems.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/4/2008 11:48:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Also the Wirraway suffers from the same altitude problems afaik


As well as many other problems.



You mean when they are shot down, it is a mercy killing ?

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 12:01:06 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Well, resources are dwindling but the Empire can manage another round of Total War!
I can feel the enemy's resolve is dwindling and our troops are beginning to think they can prevail

Today enemy fleets left Amami for the first time and although we lost another dozen transports most of the troops
are ashore and supply situation improved. Bad weather gave us a much needed respite and all major bases in Okinawas
and Amami are back in business

No more retreat but only fight!!!!!

Next time wAndy returns Shindens will drop from the sky like a blitz of lightning
Hopefully the Allies will understand that the Empire can not be defeated and sue for peace soon!

BONSAI!!!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/28/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Awata Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Kete
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Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Bandoeng Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-581
PT PT-582
PT PT-583
PT PT-584
PT PT-585

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kadina at 54,45

Japanese Ships
AK Gyoun Maru, Shell hits 31, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT PT-542
PT PT-543
PT PT-544
PT PT-566
PT PT-567
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Kinkasan Maru, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Charles Hughes
DD Duncan
DD Lansdowne

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14, Shell hits 10, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Charles Hughes
DD Duncan
DD Lansdowne
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Nittei Maru, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Charles Hughes
DD Duncan
DD Lansdowne

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Ehime Maru, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Wiley
DD Yarnall
DD Mayo

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Cheribon Maru, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Wiley
DD Yarnall
DD Mayo

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AG AG-2089, Shell hits 20, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Wiley
DD Yarnall
DD Mayo
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Taijun Maru, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Charles Hughes
DD Duncan
DD Lansdowne

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Syunsei Maru, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Wiley
DD Yarnall
DD Mayo

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Awata Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DE Hurst
DE Inch
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 54,46

Japanese Ships
AK Bunzan Maru, Shell hits 102, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT PT-568
PT PT-569
PT PT-570
PT PT-571
PT PT-572
PT PT-573
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Day Time Surface Combat at 55,44

Japanese Ships
AK Taijun Maru, Shell hits 14, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 30
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 5
B-24J Liberator x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 10 destroyed, 16 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 2
P-51D Mustang x 11
P-61A Black Widow x 4
B-29 Superfortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Runway hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 69,50

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9
P1Y Frances x 9
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 6 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Clarence Bronson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Wilkes
DD Arunta
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 18,20

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3122 troops, 12 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Defending force 2654 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Allied max assault: 58 - adjusted assault: 22

Japanese max defense: 66 - adjusted defense: 126

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Bombay

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37620 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1485

Defending force 87848 troops, 593 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1153

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Amami

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 248481 troops, 1825 guns, 1019 vehicles, Assault Value = 4696

Defending force 75283 troops, 539 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 1534

Japanese ground losses:
384 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at 27,9

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4530 troops, 0 guns, 210 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Defending force 3138 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52

Allied max assault: 196 - adjusted assault: 43

Japanese max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 1:09:26 AM   
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Allied Ships
DD Clarence Bronson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Wilkes
DD Arunta


Gosh is that THE original HMAS Arunta
At least a 1941 ship you didn't sink yet...?


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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 1:14:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		First I would like to say that I am a big fan of this AAR. As an Allied Fanboy, it is a tutorial in defensive strategy. Not that you could have been stopped in early 1942 but seeing what you have accomplished is a strong warning to all us AFB that we are in a precarious position to start the war and better act like it.

Second I would like to respond to a couple of statements that were made:

Gee PZB
you lost more planes this week than I build against tabpub in 6 months!

OH, to have such resources at my fingertips

Your running of the Japanese economy may be your greatest triumph here. Per my previous post I am amazed at the resources you still have available at this stage of the game That said, WiTP is so obviously tilted to the Japanese as far as this goes that it is silly. I'm guessing you stopped Nate and Nell production immediately and converted those units to Oscars and Betty's (SOP for JFB from what I've read). What if the Allied player could stop P-39 production on 8 Dec 1941 and convert all those factories to P-40's? What if the Allied player could stop say B-26 production and convert all those factories to B-24's? And of course as soon as P-38's came on line, all P-40 production would cease. But no the Allied player keeps producing lesser types long after the better ones become available. Just saying if the playing field were level, it would change the game

Hopefully the Allies will understand that the Empire can not be defeated and sue for peace soon!

No offense but from a historical view Japan has lost. It's access to SRA is cut and it's economy will soon grind to a halt. That said, I have to wonder if your play had been the historical model if Japan really might have been able to sue for peace in 1942 on its terms and get it. With the fall of India, if Japan had then turn south to Oz and threatened to annex the Aussies, maybe the Allies would have listened. Makes one wonder. I honestly beleive that if the real war had gone the way your game went, there was a truly good chance the UK at least would have capitulated. One wonders. So in my mind, Emporer PZBito has already won the war.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 1:36:59 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		The Arunta is one of the lucky ships together with the carrier Wasp

Thx Vettim, I was pretty green when I started plaing this game. Was my first WitP game
ever and I had very little experience with production. So whether I stopped, started or converted correctly
is impossible to say. The only thing I was aware of was that I should not increase production or facilities
to much.

Andy was appalled to find the Singapore repair yards had not been expanded at all when he marched in there
The same applies for a lot of factories, shipyards etc. I have simply converted factories and only slightly increased
them in size. Engine factories needed to be expanded, but even here I see that more would have been needed.

The B26 Marauder was a medium bomber, so I don't think it would be possible to convert it into producing
heavy bombers in a game without PDU. But I understand your point and I also see that Japan is squeezed into a corner.

Andy has pushed beyond almost all limits and capabilities in order to pursue an invasion of Japan and maybe pull of
a last minute victory. I'm not like Hoepner who continues to play the gent when Troll goes rampaging using any means.
My policy is an eye for an eye and if Andy pursues a strategy of massive death and destruction without any consideration
for his men and ships - I do the same and feel that the Japanese were much more obliged to obey such an order than the Allies were.

All honor to Andy, he has made this game a lot more exciting than I thought it could become back in 42 when India fell.
I'm still going to do my best to show that the cost of not securing your supply lines before conducting another 'jump' is to costly in the long run.

I'm pretty sure a real life invasion of Japan would have been immensely costly, mostly for the Japs but also for the poor Marines that would have to slug it out with millions of die hard troops and militia.

The only way Japan could have secured a separate peace with the Allies would be if the USSR surrendered to Germany.
Then I think the Allies would have had to concentrate all their strength to defeat the biggest evil and most dangerous foe.
The Nazi war machine was a lot more modern and dangerous to the Allies than the Empire of Japan could ever become.
If Germany was defeated Japan would be doomed....



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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 1:45:49 AM   
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The Arunta is one of the lucky ships together with the carrier Wasp



HMAS Arunta was awarded 48 battle stars, one Victoria Cross, twenty-five Georges Cross, one Congressional Medal of Honor, two Presidential Citations, three Legion d'Honneur & one order of Lenin for its Allied service in the Pacific. It is now a floating museum in Sydney.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 1:50:47 AM   
vettim89


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Status: offline 		The only way Japan could have secured a separate peace with the Allies would be if the USSR surrendered to Germany.
Then I think the Allies would have had to concentrate all their strength to defeat the biggest evil and most dangerous foe.
The Nazi war machine was a lot more modern and dangerous to the Allies than the Empire of Japan could ever become.
If Germany was defeated Japan would be doomed....


If true, then instead of going for India youshould have taken out the USSR. While not nearly as fun from the game perspective perhaps but in terms of course of the World War, perhaps actually better serving Japan's end game. Could the Russians have survived if facing a two front war in 1942. Historically we saw what it did to the Germans. While part of me has a hard time seeing the Allies capitulating to the Japanese under any circumstances, part of me wonders what would have been the effect of losing India entirely. An intesting picture would be India in Japanese hand and Japenes troops massed in SE Australia ready to put the Coup d' Grace on Oz. What if the Japanese made overtures at that point? Certainly a point for conjecture but it is an interesting scenario

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 2:11:17 AM   
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I've never been to happy with the ground combat model in WitP so I never considered invading the USSR.
The invasion of China was stopped because ground combat wasn't working properly.
India I mostly considered as an amph invasion.

From a historical point of view there is no doubt that Japan would have been much better of helping Germany,
but they had entirely their own agenda and after receiving a spanking in 39' they weren't keen on another conflict with the Russians.

I also think the Japs were overstretched as it was by mid 1942.
A campaign into India could have succeeded if supported by a major internal uprising.

I suggest that you read "Nemesis" by Max Hastings - the Battle for Japan, 44-45.
Excellent read. He also wrote "Armageddon" - same story for Germany, 44-45.
Here's a link: Nemesis

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 2:15:49 AM   
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To bad I didn't go to Sydney when I was down under...only had an old frigate in Brisbane!

That's our alternative reality version of HMAS Arunta, Admiral
Do you believe any ship could somehow expect to get 48 battle stars, 1 VC and 1 CMOH in the real war? This is not the HMAS Arunta from the real war - this is the lucky HMAS Arunta from the great, murderous, PzB war

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 2:36:03 AM   
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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/5/2008 9:26:41 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/29/45

Enemy fleets moved back to Amami and met minefields and CD guns!
The MSWs got a rude surprise....

In addition a fleet oiler and an AE were severely damaged by mines.

TF 1040 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Allied Ships
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
DE Roberts
DE Riddle
DE Parks
DD Walker
DD Wadsworth
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TF 1044 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

55 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Competent
MSW Champion, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Prevail, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Spear
MSW Swallow, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AO Tomahawk, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Hissem
DE Formoe
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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Allied Ships
MSW Saunter
MSW Starling
MSW Revenge
DE Wingfield
AE Nitro, Mine hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DE Waterman
DE Edsall
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Surface Combat

Our transports have mostly unloaded and had to pay the price...

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Nittei Maru, Shell hits 22, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
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Tried to send 2 destroyers east of Amami...only to run headlong into a monster size TF.

Night Time Surface Combat at 55,44

Japanese Ships
DD Natsuzuki, Shell hits 27, and is sunk
DD Sakaki, Shell hits 22, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 1
CLAA Flint
CL Cleveland
CL Birmingham
CL Mobile
CL Pasadena
CA Northampton
DD Bennett
DD Bennion
DD Conway
DD Cotten
DD Foote
DD Hale
DD Halford
DD Newcomb, Shell hits 1
CA Hobart
DD Bancroft
DD Meade
DD Forrest
DD Macomb
DD Rodman
DE Underhill
DE Weeden
DE Willmarth
DE Wiseman
DE Richard S. Bull
DE Dennis
DE Cecil J. Doyle
DE Haas
DE Heyliger
DE Edwin A. Howard
DE Hutchins
DE Jaccard
DE Robert F. Keller
DE Bright
DE Burrows
DE Ebert
DE Eisner
DE Roche
DE Snyder
DE Rhodes
DE Ricketts
DE Stockdale
DE Austin
DE Brackett
DE Cabana
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Syunsei Maru, Shell hits 23, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Taijima Maru, Shell hits 47, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Awata Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
MSW W.22, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Shunsei Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AG AG-105
AG AG-108
AG AG-115
AG AG-353
AG AG-5071
AG AG-5113, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-5114
AG AG-5116, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
AG AG-5160, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-2052, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
AG AG-2060
AG AG-2085
AG AG-2090

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Sado Maru, Shell hits 41, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Ryuzin Maru, Shell hits 35, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Hachirogata Maru, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AK Unyo Maru #2, Shell hits 27, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Nichiren Maru, Shell hits 64, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
MSW W.23, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
MSW Banshu Maru #56, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
MSW Wa 22, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Australia
CL Oklahoma City
DD John R. Pierce
DD Wadsworth
DD Walker
DD Waller
DD Wedderburn
DE Samuel S. Miles
DE Osterhaus
DE Parks
DE Riddle
DE Roberts
DE J.R.Y. Blakely
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Bombardments

Don't understand why Andy use these giant size bombardment TFs.
7-8 capital ships is enough in each TF.

Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Hikade Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
CA Astoria
CA Louisville
CA Canberra
CA New Orleans
CA Guam
CA Boston
CA Baltimore
CA Wichita
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Texas
BB New York
BB Arkansas
BB Missouri
BB Iowa
BB Alabama
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
2852 casualties reported
Guns lost 67
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 31
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Naval bombardment of Bombay, at 20,10 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

54 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 2
CL Nashville
CL Phoenix, Shell hits 15
CLAA San Diego
CA Shropshire
BB North Carolina
BB California
BB Colorado, Shell hits 14

Japanese ground losses:
422 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 6
Liberator VI x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Liberator VI: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1
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So it starts

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 76
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 2
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed, 31 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 1 destroyed
PB4Y Liberator: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 21 destroyed, 16 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Runway hits 18
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 45
C6N1-S Myrt x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
P-51D Mustang x 5
B-29 Superfortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed
B-29 Superfortress: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Runway hits 2
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 44
C6N1-S Myrt x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 21
B-29 Superfortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 7 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 7 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Runway hits 1
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 36
C6N1-S Myrt x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 99

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 13 destroyed, 11 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed, 30 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
347 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 76
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 17
C6N1-S Myrt x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 56
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 63
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Our LBA is suddenly free to harass enemy shipping and 20!!! ships are hit

Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 2
D4Y Judy x 3
B6N Jill x 2
B7A Grace x 13
G4M2 Betty x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed
B7A Grace: 5 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Frank H. Evers
DE Thomas J. Gary
AK Michael J. Monohan
DE Charles E. Brannon
AK Sylvester Pattie
AK George R. Poole
AK Terry E. Stephenson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Ulvert M. Moore
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
G4M2 Betty x 14
P1Y Frances x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 5
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged
P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Brister
DE McGinty, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Enos A. Mills, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK George Middlemas
AK Michael Pupin
AK T. A. Johnston
AK Ephraim W. Baughman, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
LCI(G) LCI(G)-543
AK Edwin D. Howard
LCI(R) LCS(L)-15, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Stephen T. Mather, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Stephen Smith, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Harold Dossett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
LCI(M) LCI(M)-588, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Thomas J. Gary, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sylvester Pattie
AK Frank H. Evers
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Thomas J. Gary, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Stephen W. Kearny, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Michael Pupin
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Day Air attack on TF at 72,52

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9
P1Y Frances x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 9 damaged
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Wilkes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Clarence Bronson, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 7

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
F6F Hellcat x 33
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
Corsair IV x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 6 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 16
D4Y Judy x 2
B7A Grace x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Camp
AK Harold H. Brown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Oliver Westover
AK Grover C. Hutcherson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
P1Y Frances x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 5 damaged
P1Y Frances: 9 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Frederick Austin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DE Charles E. Brannon
AK Frank H. Evers
AK Glamorgan Seam, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
LCI(M) LCI(M)-582, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Bombay

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37678 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1486

Defending force 87272 troops, 581 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1144

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Amami

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 250476 troops, 1869 guns, 1020 vehicles, Assault Value = 4908

Defending force 71793 troops, 457 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 1535

Japanese ground losses:
438 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 2
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Ground combat at 28,8

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4461 troops, 0 guns, 207 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 2140 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Allied max assault: 188 - adjusted assault: 56

Japanese max defense: 20 - adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 18 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Continued Air Battles




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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 4:35:36 AM   
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Good thing I always copy out the text before posting. Takes time with these big reports.

Another day of intense A2A combat - we refuse to give in and inflict more heavy casualties
on enemy CAG and 4Es. Bad weather makes it all a gamble - if bad weather had shut down enemy carriers
that launched 80 Corsairs in a sweep today enemy losses would have been twice as high.

This was the last day of November, the fighting will most likely continue well into December!
If we can only hold for a little longer there will be no time for the enemy to rest and prepare for another
round. Amami itself is of little value if this goal can be achieved.

We lost lots of transports today, most have been lightly loaded and even empty.
The number of troops brought in has been relatively small, mostly supply runs.
Didn't expect the battle for an atoll to drag out for so long and now I regret moving supplies from Amami to Kadina
Time to let it up as Andy has brought back a lot of surface ships to deal with them.

I read in 'Nemesis' - the Battle for Japan 44-45 - that the Japs used all kinds of small ships, including sailing
schooners to send men and supplies to reinforce the garrison after the landings at Leyte in October 44.
Losses were horrendous of course...

We don't have schooners so I decided to use a limited number of transports - still have hundreds of them lying idle in the Home Islands - but I've tried not to overdo it. A special mission called: "Ground ship and unload supplies" could be needed here


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/30/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack at 58,44

Japanese Ships
MSW Tomozono Maru #3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Uji

Allied Ships
SS Harder
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Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
CA Astoria
CA Louisville
CA Canberra
CA New Orleans
CA Guam
CA Boston
CA Baltimore
CA Wichita
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Texas
BB New York
BB Arkansas
BB Missouri
BB Iowa
BB Alabama
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
1091 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30
Port supply hits 2
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 19
TBM Avenger x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 4
Liberator VI x 8

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 2 damaged
Liberator VI: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 1
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 7
J7W Shinden x 51
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 3 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 24
J7W Shinden x 34
C6N1-S Myrt x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 30
Ki-100 Tony x 23

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F4U-1D Corsair x 44
Corsair IV x 18

Japanese aircraft losses - the usual silly dilly results when Corsairs are about. They're still more deadly than the Shindens!
174 of our fighters shot down by 74 Corsairs which lost 47 of their own numbers.

A7M2 Reppu: 25 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 40 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 19 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 15 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 39 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 36 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 34 destroyed
Corsair IV: 11 destroyed
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Fortunately enough CAP fighters were left to wing a lot of enemy bombers and some CAG fighters.

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 13
J7W Shinden x 22
C6N1-S Myrt x 2
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
P-51D Mustang x 18
P-61A Black Widow x 16
B-29 Superfortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F-5C Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 16 destroyed
P-61A Black Widow: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3
J7W Shinden x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 12
B-24J Liberator x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged
J7W Shinden: 5 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 8 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Runway hits 25
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3
J7W Shinden x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged
J7W Shinden: 9 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 55
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3
J7W Shinden x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 90

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 damaged
J7W Shinden: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 102
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Day Air attack on 21st/B Division, at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
F6F Hellcat x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Heiyo Maru, Shell hits 24, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 4
A6M5c Zeke x 8

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F6F Hellcat x 123
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
Corsair IV x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 8 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CL Pasadena
CL Birmingham
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 116
F4U-1 Corsair x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 19
Corsair IV x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 13
J7W Shinden x 16
C6N1-S Myrt x 10
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7
Ki-100 Tony x 8

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
F4U-1D Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 5 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 5 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 11
J7W Shinden x 16
C6N1-S Myrt x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 8
Ki-100 Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
TBM Avenger x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 8 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Hikade Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
G4M2 Betty x 3
P1Y Frances x 6
Ki-49 Helen x 3
Ki-67 Peggy x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged
P1Y Frances: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Tomahawk, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Prevail, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Swallow, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Daytime Surface Combat

15 ships and 5 barges were sunk by this uber sized TF.
Only showing one encounter not to bore you to death!-)

Day Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
PG Uji, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
BB Washington
BB Massachusetts
BB Alabama
BB Iowa
BB Missouri
BB Arkansas
BB New York
BB Texas
CA Minneapolis
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Wichita
CA Baltimore
CA Boston
CA Guam
CA New Orleans
CA Canberra
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Portland
CA Indianapolis
CA Chester
CA Chicago
CA Detroit
CA Houston
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Ground Combat

Enemy reduce a fort level at Bombay - by pure luck.
Think we can hold even without forts according to the modifiers given here!

Ground combat at Bombay

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 66846 troops, 666 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 1487

Defending force 87526 troops, 586 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1148

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Allied max assault: 1389 - adjusted assault: 477

Japanese max defense: 1199 - adjusted defense: 11593 - No way Andy will break this anytime soon

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)

Japanese ground losses:
2158 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
4393 casualties reported
Guns lost 120
Vehicles lost 2
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Ground combat at Amami

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 252199 troops, 1894 guns, 1022 vehicles, Assault Value = 5136

Defending force 71954 troops, 471 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 1569

Japanese ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 3
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2 enemy tank units have shock attacked on follow mode for 4-5 days - thus shock marching
from Dehli to Lahore in half the time that should be possible....annoying. Hope this is dealt with in AE.

Ground combat at 28,7

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4421 troops, 0 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 1499 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Allied max assault: 188 - adjusted assault: 130

Japanese max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 130 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
515 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Uber TF




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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 5:22:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Despite the superiority of the Corsairs, those Shindens are doing a good job. I wonder what the replacement rates are on those things (I mean Corsairs)? You seem to be severely damaging his airforce. (plus, all the ones that went down with the CVEs!)

Edited for clarity

< Message edited by cap_and_gown -- 4/6/2008 5:24:21 AM >

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 6:01:47 AM   
vettim89


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Status: offline 		Its like driving past a car wreck on the road - you know you shouldn't look but you just can't help yourself. everytime I see a new post by PzB, I have to stop in and see what happened. The carnage, the carnage, oh the humanity

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 7:39:23 AM   
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I know you are probably aware of this but sequential sweeps seem to really destroy enemy CAP---- it has to comprise, IMO, a minimum of 3 sequential sweeps but by the end of the third one the enemy CAP's casualty-causing ability will be severely attrited ( and this is the key ), even in the absence of significant casualties to that CAP.

Just suggesting it since he seems to have created a situation where he is going to have to bring another wave of troops into Amami and that'll give you the opportunity to launch multiple sweeps from multiple bases, combined with bomber strikes.



As an aside:
While the losses are massive what's REALLY interesting is that overall these losses, if spread across the Allied inventory, mean that AndyMac should be winning and winning handily - this isn't the case because he is concentrating his losses in what is his most fragile aerial component right now ( the USN ). This is bad strategy indeed.

Why do I say this?
Well, Andy has taken roughly 200 losses in flying 8,000 missions today, that's a 2.5% loss rate which is within the rate of continuous sustainability ( defined as being sustainable without requiring significant periods of standing down and rebuilding ) while PzB has lost 314 planes in 2,000 sorties which is a loss rate of 15% - well beyond the rate of anything sustainable.

Unfortunately for Andy these figures are misleading as at least 126 of the Allied losses came out of the USN pilot pool. In effect some 60% of his losses ( minimum ) have to be replaced by somewhat under 30% of his pilot replacements. So while, overall, it looks like he is operating at continuous sustainability he is, in fact, operating with unsustainable loss levels to the component ( USN ) he is using as his spearhead time and time again. I don't know if he is nearing the 15% figure as I'd need a full day's CR and loss report to calculate that but he is definitely well above what is sustainable. The only question really is is whether he is double it or triple it or quadruple it.

Obviously this is only one day's figures but the overall thrust holds true when you average out the losses in the "plane loss screen" on other days.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 8:56:15 AM   
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I think Andy's problem is precisely what you describe in that he can't force PzB to stand and fight his LBA fighters. Anywhere in range of Andy's LBA PzB just withdraws.

Which means to bring his superior LBA into the fray, Andy has to back PzB up against something he *has* to defend, which at this point in the game means the home islands.

So Andy desperately needs a fighter base in range of the Home islands, which is precisely why he's invading Amani now.

I'm sure he'd desperately love to spread his losses over his army replacement and pilot pool, but that's not practical until after Amani falls (and even then I question whether one air base is going to be worth the loss in operational momentum, but that's another issue).

Point being, I think Andy's got no choice except to grind it out with his navy pilots and hope PzB runs out of airframes before he does.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 9:16:33 AM   
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Well the mother of all victories is the shaping of the battlefield you've been doing for the past 6 months to year. Andy is in trouble now because over the past year while he has noticed and b*tched about the problem of attriting PzB more than PzB has attrited him he hasn't actually managed to achieve anything concrete in terms of attriting PzB's pilots without running his own USN pilots down.

Now he is simply paying the final toll for his failure to write down the IJA and IJN fighter strength over the previous campaigns. His failure isn't so much in this campaign ( where certain operational realities dictate which portions of his pool must bear the brunt of losses ) but in the previous series of campaigns wherein he hasn't ever brought the hammer of his army and USMC pilot pools to bear in such a manner that the Japanese aerial forces have been truly shattered. Time and again he has told PzB that his USN pilot pools and plane replacement rates are too low but when have we seen concerted and sustained operations aimed at shattering PzB's fighters with USAAF fighter sweeps? Answer, never. We've just seen him send his carriers in again and again taking horrendous losses each time and poining out the same basic flaws on each occasion - but he hasn't done anything about rectifying those issues..... and he has had the opportunity to bring the USAAF fighters into battle in meaningful ways.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 5:00:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Pat,

Well the mother of all victories is the shaping of the battlefield you've been doing for the past 6 months to year. Andy is in trouble now because over the past year while he has noticed and b*tched about the problem of attriting PzB more than PzB has attrited him he hasn't actually managed to achieve anything concrete in terms of attriting PzB's pilots without running his own USN pilots down.

Now he is simply paying the final toll for his failure to write down the IJA and IJN fighter strength over the previous campaigns. His failure isn't so much in this campaign ( where certain operational realities dictfate which portions of his pool must bear the brunt of losses ) but in the previous series of campaigns wherein he hasn't ever brought the hammer of his army and USMC pilot pools to bear in such a manner that the Japanese aerial forces have been truly shattered. Time and again he has told PzB that his USN pilot pools and plane replacement rates are too low but when have we seen concerted and sustained operations aimed at shattering PzB's fighters with USAAF fighter sweeps? Answer, never. We've just seen him send his carriers in again and again taking horrendous losses each time and poining out the same basic flaws on each occasion - but he hasn't done anything about rectifying those issues..... and he has had the opportunity to bring the USAAF fighters into battle in meaningful ways.


Even yet another way this AAR is a training manual for AFB's. I see the need now to use the USN, USAAF, UMC, and Commonwealth pilots all equally now to spread the losses.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 10:12:57 PM   
DW

 

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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Pat,

Well the mother of all victories is the shaping of the battlefield you've been doing for the past 6 months to year. Andy is in trouble now because over the past year while he has noticed and b*tched about the problem of attriting PzB more than PzB has attrited him he hasn't actually managed to achieve anything concrete in terms of attriting PzB's pilots without running his own USN pilots down.

Now he is simply paying the final toll for his failure to write down the IJA and IJN fighter strength over the previous campaigns. His failure isn't so much in this campaign ( where certain operational realities dictate which portions of his pool must bear the brunt of losses ) but in the previous series of campaigns wherein he hasn't ever brought the hammer of his army and USMC pilot pools to bear in such a manner that the Japanese aerial forces have been truly shattered. Time and again he has told PzB that his USN pilot pools and plane replacement rates are too low but when have we seen concerted and sustained operations aimed at shattering PzB's fighters with USAAF fighter sweeps? Answer, never. We've just seen him send his carriers in again and again taking horrendous losses each time and poining out the same basic flaws on each occasion - but he hasn't done anything about rectifying those issues..... and he has had the opportunity to bring the USAAF fighters into battle in meaningful ways.


Could you elaborate on that last statement please?

I've read both AAR's in their entirety and until Andy started directly threatening the HI, I can't think of any examples where Andy was in a position to force an air battle using LBA that PZB absolutely had to fight until the recent attack on the inner ring.

PZB avoided force wrecking air battles when Andy attacked the outer ring. He contested enough to slow Andy's advance by forcing him to attack important objective with a well prepared assault, but he didn't over commit and withdrew his air power before the losses began to get too expensive.

And, he did it very well.

The avenues of advance to attack the inner ring are limited with respect to LBA.

The only real direction for Andy to attack the inner ring under powerful LBA cover is the way he's going now, and I don't see how he could have advanced the time table of that avenue of attack very much.

Given the state of the game when Andy took over, I'm having a difficult time seeing what he could have done differently that would have significantly altered the current state of affairs.

He might be fighting some place else now, but it would still a similar battle aimed at achieving a similar goal.











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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/6/2008 10:42:34 PM   
Nemo121


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Status: offline 		Tactics are subordinate to operations, operations are subordinate to strategy. If the strategy was to whittle down Japanes pilot pools then different, less deep operations which relied less on USN pilots forcing the way and more on small leapfrogs carried out under the cover of USAAF pilots. Look at the war over the last year, it has been one continuous saga of overly deep operations being carried out at ruinous cost far from the protecting umbrella of USAAF pilots.


As to how things would differ... Well, if he had begun subsuming his tactics and operations to his great strategic goal ( of writing down the japanese experienced pilot pool ) a year ago then the operations he would have chosen to follow would have slightly different emphases and carried out slightly differently. A good metaphor here is of pushing an asteroid out of a collision path with earth. If you spot it 4 days before impact then you pretty much have to nuke it and even if you do enough fragments will hit the Earth to devastate it. If, on the other hand you spot it 369 days out then you can mount a little engine on it to give it a little lateral acceleration and over the course of time it will veer enough off course to miss completely.

My point is that while it may seem like little could have been done and the battles now would be much the same I would argue that small differences snowball over time and become quite significant.


The key point is that Andy identified this as a critical weakness and has done very, very little to remedy it effectively over the past year. This is a clear failing on his part and now he is most assuredly paying the price. Could it have been different? Yes, I believe so as he never focussed ruthlessly on a single objective and pursued it with all his force without being distracted by sideshows.

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RE: The last 100 days.... - 4/7/2008 12:35:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fishbed


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ORIGINAL: PzB

The Arunta is one of the lucky ships together with the carrier Wasp



HMAS Arunta was awarded 48 battle stars, one Victoria Cross, twenty-five Georges Cross, one Congressional Medal of Honor, two Presidential Citations, three Legion d'Honneur & one order of Lenin for its Allied service in the Pacific. It is now a floating museum in Sydney.



regrettfully the Arunta is NOT a museum ship in Sydney
She was scrapped.
Ship in Sydney is the Vampire -a Daring Class destroyer.

As an aside, we had an Author -JE Mc Donald who wrote a series of Gun Ho navy war novels loosley based on the Arunta's service.
Real stiff upper lip -36 knots type stuff!

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