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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/27/2008 9:33:02 PM   
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All i can say that i would't want him for my lawyer. Poor ol' Hortlund probably losing all his cases.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/27/2008 9:36:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pauk

All i can say that i would't want him for my lawyer. Poor ol' Hortlund probably losing all his cases.



honestly, IMO it´s a bit strange that he tells me for days how realistic it is to mass hundreds on IJAAF medium bombers in the Philipines to hunt down 12 of my subs and then he complains about Jumper that he used KB to hunt 40 of his subs within 8 hexes.

At least he "can see my point now".

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/27/2008 11:18:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		His point is that the rules should require that his opponent tie their hands behind their backs.

Look, you've noted that you've not engaged in 4EB strategic raids on oil resources because you felt obliged to let your submarines do the lifting for you as it felt "more historical." PzjH has stumbled on a cute trick that makes ahistorical use of his assets to neutralize your historical use of yours. I think you should feel free to send B-24s after Balikpapan or any other resource hex that looks vulnerable to you whenever you want. That use of American 4EBs has lots of historical precedent in the PTO and the ETO.

Now that I think of it, when it becomes feasible, a few Allied 4EB massive night bombing raids on bases packed with IJAAF bombers set to ASW patrol might be poetic justice.

Back in the days of GGPW, one way to give the Japanese player the conniptions was to use B-17s over bases packed with Zeros, because the game engine made Zeros quite vulnerable (properly so) and B-17s far too invulnerable. In effect you had something like a B-17 fighter sweep death star effect in which you could run up Zero losses by looking for trouble with B-17s. It was of course historically unprecedented and gamey as hell, and in PBEM most people agreed not to do such things. But against PzjH, that sort of gamey trick is simply fair turnabout, IMO.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 12:25:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl

His point is that the rules should require that his opponent tie their hands behind their backs.

Look, you've noted that you've not engaged in 4EB strategic raids on oil resources because you felt obliged to let your submarines do the lifting for you as it felt "more historical." PzjH has stumbled on a cute trick that makes ahistorical use of his assets to neutralize your historical use of yours. I think you should feel free to send B-24s after Balikpapan or any other resource hex that looks vulnerable to you whenever you want. That use of American 4EBs has lots of historical precedent in the PTO and the ETO.

Now that I think of it, when it becomes feasible, a few Allied 4EB massive night bombing raids on bases packed with IJAAF bombers set to ASW patrol might be poetic justice.

Back in the days of GGPW, one way to give the Japanese player the conniptions was to use B-17s over bases packed with Zeros, because the game engine made Zeros quite vulnerable (properly so) and B-17s far too invulnerable. In effect you had something like a B-17 fighter sweep death star effect in which you could run up Zero losses by looking for trouble with B-17s. It was of course historically unprecedented and gamey as hell, and in PBEM most people agreed not to do such things. But against PzjH, that sort of gamey trick is simply fair turnabout, IMO.



I won´t break my own hr (which is one that I have only for me, it was never suggested from my opponent).

I just can´t get it that Hortlund is so upset about Jumper when he´s doing the same as Hortlund is doing. well, do something gamey and it´s realistic for you, if your opponent does the gamey thing you do to you, then cry foul...

We´re entering 43 in a few days and this PBEM has come further than I thought, as Hortlund and I seem to have nearly always complete different oppinions when it comes down to "game the game". I especially liked when he posted that he hates players that are "gaming the game"...

still, with all the frustration we surely both had (as he thinks that everything I did so far is gamey too) it was more or less worth spending the time. And I have to say he´s a very reliable opponent.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 1:58:38 AM   
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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 6:03:45 PM   
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TF 1026 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Allied Ships
DD Fortune, Mine hits 1

mine hit? as usual...

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless
CL Durban
CL Dragon
CL Danae

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3
Port supply hits 1


4 CLs and no damage? as usual...

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
CA Frobisher
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

no comment...
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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 146
P-40B Tomahawk x 62
B-26B Marauder x 111


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 185

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet

but today, the bombers achieve a very high hit rate! 6 bombers are lost...

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 142


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 40


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 7th AF Construction Battalion, at 31,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 79
Kittyhawk I x 16


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

no ground losses? as usual...

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Day Air attack on TF at 118,88

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AP President Garfield, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Chaumont, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet


three precious APs end up 6 hexes from Christmas Island and are immediately attacked of course. Damn wayfinding... if you don´t check EVERY TF every third turn, something like this happens...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69047 troops, 851 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504

Defending force 96329 troops, 945 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1711



Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 6:04:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl

You are a gent. You and Gen Hoepner are models of tolerance.



well, I´m not so tolerant as you might think and for sure not nearly as tolerant as Gen Hoepner!

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 6:49:50 PM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/30/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Gili Gili at 56,94

Japanese Ships
AK Kiyosumi Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Lyons Maru, Shell hits 24, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Grayson
DD Morris

I could say: as usual, there are no heavy escorts for Japanese convoys going to front line bases. And again we take advantage of that and this TF is shot to pieces. Two big AKs lost.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Gili Gili at 56,94

Japanese Ships
AK Isin Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
AK Nitiran Maru
AK Nitiyo Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Grayson
DD Morris

The second TF with two big and a small AK was surprised also but our ships break off pretty fast again... Marblehead has already a night exp of 62 which is pretty high for a USN ship.

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
P-38G Lightning x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 145
B-24D Liberator x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 11 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 31 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

the second time we see Lightnings in combat! Last time the Zeroes over Lautern took down our Lightnings at a 15:0 rate, so I was hesitant to use them again. After our succesful attack on Thursday Island a couple of turns ago I decided it could be worth a try as I was more or less sure there wouldn´t be a big Cap. I was right and the dozen Zeroes in the air were not able to really harm our fighters this time. We started off with the bounce on our side and took down 4 Zeroes pretty fast when the bounce changed sides and the Zeroes damaged a couple of our Lightnings before another Zero was shot down. One of our long range escorts was lost to ops, flak was absolutely effective again and the airfield will be completely repaired by the 30.000 troops there within the next three days.

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 75
B-24D Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 75

Aircraft Attacking:
41 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet

this is the follow up attack from Townsville...





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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 141


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69081 troops, 851 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1502

Defending force 96363 troops, 941 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1708



Allied ground losses:
162 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 7:28:59 PM   
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TF 5 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)

Japanese Ships
AK Isin Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

sub laid MK12...

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Sub attack at 33,51

Japanese Ships
AK Yamasimo Maru
PC Shonan Maru #6
MSW Tama Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Kingfish

6 torps... all missed! Looking at the last 5 pages of this AAR, this is not ridicoulos?? The developer responsible for the coding of sub attacks unfortunately never had a chance to take a look at a book about subs in WWII... what a pity...

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 141


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 45
SBD Dauntless x 13
TBF Avenger x 13
Wellington III x 45


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 damaged
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 40
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69201 troops, 855 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504

Defending force 96090 troops, 939 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1706



Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported

our troops at Akyab were already ordered to move North again... the Japanese airforce isn´t willing to fight for Akya (no wonder when they have flak from the 23rd century there), Rangoon and Mandalay are already operating hundreds of Tojos (which are far superior to all we can field), so the battle for Burma will begin in... 1958...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 7:43:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Next month we have to again withdraw a BB and 2 DDs... we´re still -700 with our political points.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 8:29:07 PM   
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6 torps... all missed! Looking at the last 5 pages of this AAR, this is not ridicoulos?? The developer responsible for the coding of sub attacks unfortunately never had a chance to take a look at a book about subs in WWII... what a pity...



*Lurk mode off*

Your fish hit rate is pretty abysmal, have you changed your sub commanders (I'm sure you have, just thought I'd ask)? I always notice a rather sharp increase in both hit ratios and attacks when you exchange your sub commanders to those with 60+ naval skill and aggressivnes.

*Lurk mode on*

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 8:53:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Johan_Banér


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy



6 torps... all missed! Looking at the last 5 pages of this AAR, this is not ridicoulos?? The developer responsible for the coding of sub attacks unfortunately never had a chance to take a look at a book about subs in WWII... what a pity...



*Lurk mode off*

Your fish hit rate is pretty abysmal, have you changed your sub commanders (I'm sure you have, just thought I'd ask)? I always notice a rather sharp increase in both hit ratios and attacks when you exchange your sub commanders to those with 60+ naval skill and aggressivnes.

*Lurk mode on*


I went through my sub skippers and replaced a lot of them before they left port a couple of weeks ago, after having done the 10/42 upgrade. Now we have radar, we have the chance to attack, but we need 50-60 torps (a rough guess) to hit and sink a slow merchant.



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/28/2008 9:00:08 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/01/43

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 13
P-39D Airacobra x 130


No Allied losses

Runway hits 10
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
47 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 111

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 46
SBD Dauntless x 14
TBF Avenger x 15
Wellington III x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed, 32 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 28 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged
TBF Avenger: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged
Wellington III: 46 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 25
Port hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

first thought I had: Kiska airfield must be 100% damaged, one second later I knew: these are KB´s Zeroes on LRCAP! Great, once again my 36 Catalinas spot nothing and my aircraft are shot out of the sky. My Wildcat pilots were 70+ exp vs the KB´s pilots with 80+. Result in Nikmod: 31:2 kills in favour of the Zeroes. I´ve said it before: if you play Nikmod, send out your bombers WITHOUT escort. The fighter vs fighter combat seems so far as strange as the fighter vs bomber combat. Unfortunately I can´t say anything else. Last time I´ve shaked my head was when I saw my Lightnings losing 15:0 against Zeroes, this time I´m again shaking my head when I see 70 exp Wildcats losing 32:2 against Zeroes. Date is 1/1/43 now. And again I have to think about my opponent´s words: "Nimod has completely crippled the Japanese side"...

Besides the fact that the result of this engagement is just mmmmmm, it was nevertheless a very good ambush by my opponent!






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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69269 troops, 858 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1503

Defending force 95795 troops, 944 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1706



Allied ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Guns lost 1





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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/29/2008 3:15:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		with 1/43 the B-25J entered production, but we aren´t in need of Allied medium bombers anyway as we have hundreds of Marauders and B-25C in the pool. Next important date will be 2/43 when the Corsair will enter production, followed by 3/43 when the P-47 will enter production. With the P-47 entering production and the P-38 already in production since 10/42 we will then receive 70 USAAF fighters with a range greater than 5 which will be very important for our upcoming offensives.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/02/43

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Sub attack at 32,51

Japanese Ships
AP Kasuga Maru
MSW W.4

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

4 torps... missed! MISSED, not failed to detonate! Just MISSED!

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 97

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

was amazed to see a couple of Tojos above this base!

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
A6M3 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 20
B-17E Fortress x 31
B-24D Liberator x 67

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 6 destroyed, 12 damaged
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 5 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 16000 feet

the Lightnings were able to take down a Zero and two Rufes for two Lightnings lost to ops (no pilot lost though). Compared to flak bases like Thursday Island or Akyab, Port Moresby seems to have a weaker flak defense and we will send in our bombers at 11.000ft next time.

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 143


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
47 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

while we are still bombing the garrison of Dutch Harbour, KB is lurking around Kiska Island. Hopefully Hortlund tries to bomb Amchitka with his carrier based bombers, at least my flak could take a couple of IJN pilots down. I can´t affort to lose 30+ Wildcats to shoot down 2 of KB´s Zeroes.


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69429 troops, 862 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1505

Defending force 95380 troops, 944 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1703



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/29/2008 3:25:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		KB was spotted one hex East of Kiska Island today. A couple of TFs seem to bring supply, more troops and probably also mines to Kiska! Excellent, as soon as KB leaves, Kiska will only be another Japanese prison camp that I will bomb for the next couple of months, while my troops will train to reach 100% preparation. Perhaps with 100% preparation I will only see 50% of my troops disabled during unlading, not 95% disabled like at Dutch Harbour last time, when they were only 40% prepared.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/03/43

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TF 73 encounters mine field at Andaman Island (23,34)

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi

looks like that there are surface combat forces at Andaman again. Perhaps it´s the CVE TF... Hopefully those intelligent mines are no longer existing in AE... beep, beep, beep... mine reporting 3DDs, 2CAs and a CV at Andaman Island... beep, beep, beep...

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 204

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 37 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 57

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

the base is closed, but we lose 7 B-25 again. Hortlund has stripped both Thursday Island and PM from aircraft but we still spot nearly 80 fighters on Cap over Gili Gili where he is unloading a couple of merchants at the moment.

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Day Air attack on TF at 55,100

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 12 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Grayson
DD Morris

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

Hortlund´s search aircraft spotted our raiders while going into position for an attack on Gili Gili next night and 18 Helens attacked in the morning. Thank god, our agile ships evaded the bombers while damaging 12 of them (none lost though). We spotted only 1 AK at Gili Gili, so I decided to retire the TF as it isn´t worth the risk at the moment. See, it´s so easy to guard your convoys going to front line bases! Just put a couple of bombers on nav attack there or use CAs as escort and voilá, I wouldn´t dare to attack those convoys. Thank god my opponent didn´t really think of that during the last year of the war.

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69434 troops, 864 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1507

Defending force 95176 troops, 940 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 1697



Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/30/2008 3:29:34 PM   
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5
P-38G Lightning x 19
B-17E Fortress x 84
B-24D Liberator x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 146

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 11000 feet

we attack PM again, this time at lower alt at acceptable losses. 2 bombers are lost to the enemy and another dozen to the vanish aircraft bug! Excellent! As soon as you have a couple of damaged aircraft somewhere and you transfer the 98% of the undamaged aircraft out, you have a 90% chance that the damaged aircraft left behind vanish into Nirvana. Bugged piece of crap...

play stock! At least then you have such high replacement numbers that you don´t have to cry if you lose 50% of the monthly 4E replacement rate to the vanish aircraft bug...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41303 troops, 540 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1508

Defending force 95247 troops, 944 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1703



Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/30/2008 3:46:15 PM   
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Posts: 14330
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/05/43

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Day Air attack on Amchitka Island , at 96,36

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 20
B5N Kate x 196

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 7 destroyed, 43 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 8 destroyed
Wellington III: 9 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 6 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 17 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
390 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 117

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet

we found another point where we don´t seem to agree! I told him that he was yet another time lucky or better say he took advantage of the designers being *§$%"...

Last turn I had some 30 aircraft at Amchitka and KB was still in the area (no attacks on my base so far). So I decided to fly in 220 more (including 80+ exp P-39). I set them all to nav attack at 6000ft so my P-39 could escort below 10.000ft. There were some 120 bombers (Wellingtons, Dauntless, Avengers), 72 P-39 and 24 F4F-4. So exactly this turn, Hortlund decides to bomb my airfield AND our aircraft are grounded due to a cloud over the base. Well, I dared to say that he was lucky because even though there were Blizzards in this area he launched and hit me hard while my aircraft were grounded and all flights were cancelled. He wasn´t amused about me saying that he was lucky today! I didn´t mean it personal though, that was just what I was thinking. AND of course it´s another oversight of the developers that aircraft can´t launch due to bad weather but other aircraft can fly in and bomb as if it would be bright sunshine.

A fragile Kate can fly in but a tough Dauntless or Avenger can´t fly out? Well, perhaps the attacker attacked above the Blizzard, but then the hit rate should be 0%.

Perhaps I was the lucky one as my aircraft didn´t launch against KB! As perhaps my 80+ exp P-39 would have lost 16:1 against the Zeroes, just like my F4F-4 did a couple of turns ago. Good thing is I can easily afford those aircraft lost on the ground as I have hundreds of them in pool. But still, it really pisses me off and I guess I overreacted today while giving orders for the new turn as I have set some 1000 aircraft in India on attack mode to take revenge for this turn... I´m just too emotional!




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Sub attack at 32,64

Japanese Ships
TK Akatsuki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Tennan Maru
PC Ch 10
PG Hayakafuku Maru
MSW W.17

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

South of Borneo, an oil loaden TK is hit by one of six torps and is burning. Not heavily damaged but a burning TK is always in high danger of sinking!
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 92,35

Japanese Ships
MSW Misago Maru #11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
MSW Sonobe Maru
MSW Tamozono Maru #1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
MSW Tamozono Maru #2
AK Nissan Maru
AK Shinei Maru
AK Busan Maru
AK Sansho Maru

Allied Ships
PT PT-39, Shell hits 1, on fire
PT PT-61, Shell hits 1
PT PT-116
PT PT-117
PT PT-118

I have noticed it in my game against Swift and in this game. I wonder if there´s something wrong with PT movement when sending them in for an attack. In the night movement phase I got a message of an IJN TF reacting to my PTs at Kiska (which means they arrived there at night - set on "retire" of course). Then nothing happened during the night. In the day phase my PTs were sitting at Kiska, resulting in a day engagement just like when set on "patrol do not retire". Have seen this quite often now...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41362 troops, 543 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1512

Defending force 95089 troops, 940 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1707



Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported





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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/30/2008 7:09:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today we took revenge for the destruction of 80+ Allied aircraft at Amtchitka yesterday!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/06/43

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Sub attack at 35,62

Japanese Ships
AK Kinkai Maru
PC Ch 6
MSW Banshu Maru #51

Allied Ships
SS S-42

we start off with the usual 4 torps miss story...

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 60
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 64

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 101
P-40E Warhawk x 192
A-20B Boston x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 41 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 59 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 41 destroyed, 19 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 61 damaged

we filled up all front line bases with the allowed maximum number of attack aircraft and have launched the biggest raid in the war so far. Two of our bases were clouded in the morning so no attacks from Dacca and Imphal in the am phase. I had my best fighters at Imphal to do the first sweep at 4 hexes range but due to bad weather we start off with the huge, combined sweep from Chandpur and Kohima (from 5 hexes). Watching the first 5 minutes of the replay I thought of a complete disaster in the air (once again, I was tempting to just hit the esc key...) as the Zeroes took down some 40 Hurricanes (average exp of my fighter bombers is 80!!) for the loss of 2 Zeroes. Not bad eh? Zeroes achieving kill rates of 20:1 against 80 exp Hurricane IIb. Boy, Nik must really think that the Hurricane was a real crappy plane, as this has been happening since day one of the war... That was the bad part!

The good part is that the same Hurricanes that lost 20:1 against the Zeroes won 3 or 4:1 against the Tojo. This is amazing, I really feared the Tojo! We lost a couple of Hurricanes more when our Warhawks showed up (average exp in the low 70s). So while we are always told that speed is far more important in A2A in the game it seems that the far faster Tojo (but far less maneuverable) is absolutely inferior to the Zero. What the Zeroes did to my Hurricanes, the same thing did my Warhawks to the defending Zeroes and even more to the Tojos! I guess 85% of the enemy aircraft shot down, were kills achieved by the USAAF Warhawks. This means the Warhawks achieved a kill rate of something like 7:1 and really cleared the sky over Mandalay! When the sweep was over, there was only a dozen Japanese fighters left in the air and morale of the defenders was pummeled.

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 156

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 19 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
217 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 99

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet

Perfectly! After our succesful sweep the Wellingtons from Calucatta are going in. 7 hexes (within normal range of the Wellington) and a big airfield enable the bombers to attack with their full bomb load (9x500lb) and to achieve a satisfying hit rate. The 6 defending Zeroes aren´t even thinking about attacking our bomber formation and all Wellingtons that were damaged took hits from the numerous flak guns at Mandalay. The bombers increase the numbers of Japanese fighters lost today!

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
Spitfire Vb x 86
Kittyhawk I x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 7 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vb: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

In the afternoon the weather cleared over Imphal and Dacca and we see the sweep from Imphal going in, which faces the remnants of the Japanese fighter force of Mandalay. Two Spits are shot down quickly until the British realized that they were under attack from Japanese Army and Navy fighters coming from above. The Spits evaded further attacks and then fought back bravely, taking down another 5 fighters. 2 Japanese fighters were shot down by RAAF Kittyhawks.

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 71
B-26B Marauder x 111

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 29 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 16000 feet

a dozen Marauders failed to locate the target but the majority of the bombers arrives at Mandalay with all the escorts but we face no more enemy fighters over the target. Flak is again intense and for the loss of 2 Marauders we achieve a couple of hits more on the airfield and airbase and destroy half a dozen aircraft on the ground.

All in all, a victory in the sky over Mandalay! Hurrey! I first wanted to wait another month to upgrade my two Marine squadrons in India to Corsairs but after KB´s attack on Amchitka yesterday I acted emotional and thought it is worth to attack now. We had to replace around 45 British pilots (1,5 months of replacements) and a couple of USAAF pilots but I guess we also took down a lot of IJA/IJN pilots that were in the high 70s or 80s.

As expected, the enemy has completely withdrawn from Mandalay now, having hundreds of fighters at Rangoon though. This again shows how important Akyab is and it´s a pity I have lost it so early as from Akyab I could fly escorted attacks on Rangoon. Without Akyab, this isn´t possible, which also means I can hardly invade Andaman Island or a base on Sumatra.




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ASW attack at 39,45

Japanese Ships
AK Yamabiko Maru
MSW W.10

Allied Ships
SS Drum

the single ship escort attacks first...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41454 troops, 545 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1510

Defending force 95094 troops, 935 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1710



Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1





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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 3/31/2008 10:59:43 PM   
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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 74


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41543 troops, 546 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1510

Defending force 95187 troops, 934 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1710



Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported

with the retreat of the Japanese airforce from Northern Burma and bad weather preventing strikes everywhere else on the map, we see a quiet day. In three weeks the first Corsairs will leave factory and in 2 months I will have 2 squadrons in Sopac operating. While we are already building up for the first invasions, I guess we won´t see many major efforts before we don´t have at least those two squadrons of Corsairs ready to defend our first base we take.



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 4/3/2008 7:33:09 PM   
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Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		game is going slow at the moment but we have our moments of success...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/08/43

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Sub attack at 43,45

Japanese Ships
AK Kansai Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW W.10

Allied Ships
SS Grouper, hits 1

wow, Grouper hits with one out of 4 torps. Must be our lucky day, this is South of Hong Kong.

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Sub attack at 43,45

Japanese Ships
AK Yahiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW W.10

Allied Ships
SS Grouper

and Grouper gets another chance hitting with one out of six torps. This time the single escort wasn´t enough, the two big AKs aren´t even heavily damaged so with a lot of level 5+ ports around they probably will make it both...

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 61
B-26B Marauder x 84


Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 22 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 128


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 20 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet

6 bombers are shot down over Akyab today. Bombing this flak base when there aren´t any enemy aircraft there just isn´t worth the high exp crews we lose all the time...

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 80


No Allied losses

Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41445 troops, 540 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1511

Defending force 95090 troops, 936 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 1702



Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 4/4/2008 6:51:59 PM   
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 111

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
43 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

we nuke Kai Island...

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 82
B-24D Liberator x 48


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 9 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Asama Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Brisbane Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 1
DD Kamo, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Dakar Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Boston Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Hokuroku Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Penang Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
48 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 11000 feet

30% of the strike failed to locate the target and we attacked with reduced load due to the range from Townsville. Should have moved my bombers to Cooktown instead, but that base is full of Mitchells that are refusing to attack Thursday Island for weeks (?) now... We spotted dozens of ships at PM for months already but while there were a hundred fighters on Cap all the time earlier we refused to attack the port. But as soon as my opponent moved out his fighters, those ships have become highly vulnerable and I can´t understand what they are doing there at all. But do I have to understand it? The attack wasn´t really devastating but again those ship losses could have been easily avoided by just not putting them into PM, while knowing that I have hundreds of bombers in this area. Also another DD should be history...

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 80


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
47 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd/B Division, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 69
Kittyhawk I x 14


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

Hortlund moves 4 units from Northern Burma towards Kohima. One unit is a regiment of 33rd IJA division, covered by at least one AA regiment... he can´t scare me and this is again a waste of his resources.

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41443 troops, 540 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1514

Defending force 94930 troops, 931 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1699




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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 4/5/2008 9:33:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		DD Kamo was reported sunk at Port Moresby today, bringing the total number of Japanes DDs sunk to 67!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/10/43

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 110


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5
B-25C Mitchell x 237

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 31 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 85

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

we knocked out a good number of flak guns today. 5 Mitchells were lost today. Hortlund flew massive LRCAP over Port Moresby today, I guess the fighters are coming from Lae. 3 A6M3 were lost to ops.

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 87


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 13th AA Regiment, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 108
Kittyhawk I x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

excellent! We attack the AA unit in this 4 LCU stack going towards Kohima. Makes our following attacks easier if we knock out the AA unit first...

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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41432 troops, 541 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1511

Defending force 95067 troops, 941 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 1698



Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 5



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 4/6/2008 3:23:06 PM   
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Sub attack at 29,51

Japanese Ships
AK Tokusima Maru
AK Shanghai Maru
PG Kanko Maru
PG Kaiun Maru

Allied Ships
SS Silversides

Silversides MISSED...

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Day Air attack on 5th Mortar Battalion, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 45
P-40E Warhawk x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

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Sub attack at 31,50

Japanese Ships
AK Tottori Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Kanko Maru
PG Kaiun Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pogy

but Pogy hits with two out of six torps and sinks the big AK... a rare happening...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41520 troops, 542 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1509

Defending force 94858 troops, 932 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 1694



Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 4/6/2008 4:38:08 PM   
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Sub attack at 30,51

Japanese Ships
AK Tottori Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Silversides

already dead from 2 torps yesterday, we put another two into the big AK. Would prefer to hit undamaged ships with the terrible low hit rates...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 95


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 74

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 1
B-25C Mitchell x 218


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 24 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 105

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

the fight against flak...

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Day Air attack on 33rd/B Division, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 116
Kittyhawk I x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 33rd/B Division, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 64
B-26B Marauder x 80


Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 18,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 43
IL-4c x 30

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
IL-4c: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Chuyo, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

We spotted the CVEs in this region several times already but so far my bombers on Ceylon refused to attack. Today in the afternoon phase they decided it would be worth to take off as the enemy CVEs were parking just 6 hexes off Ceylon. Two of the CVEs should be finished as we achieved 2x2000 lb bomb hits!! Rest of the hits were either 250kg AP bombs from the Chinese bombers and 500lb GP bombs from the rest of the LB-30. So this one LB-30 BG dropped 2000lb GP bombs and 500lb GP bombs as well, what makes the general oppinion on the forum that the die roll about bomb loads is done for whole groups obsolete. The LB-30s were one group but they were dropping two different bombs.

Besides that, I have no clue why Hortlund sends his helpless CVEs to such a position.

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41615 troops, 545 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1513

Defending force 94859 troops, 936 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 1693



Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 4/7/2008 8:11:46 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/13/43

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TF 22 encounters mine field at Rangoon (29,34)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.20

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TF 182 encounters mine field at Rangoon (29,34)

Japanese Ships
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Banshu Maru #8
TK Manei Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

hopefully the TK is full of fuel, then the MK10 mine could finish it...

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Sub attack near Kwajalein at 79,79

Japanese Ships
AK Urashio Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takuna Maru #6

Allied Ships
SS Snook

our subs seem to become a little better...

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Naval bombardment of Gili Gili, at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 24 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 9 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 4 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Waura Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy
CA Minneapolis
CA New Orleans
CA Pensacola
CA Chicago
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland

Japanese ground losses:
1714 casualties reported
Guns lost 32

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 165
Port hits 1

with cover of 500 carrier based aircraft we moved this bombardment TF in range of Gili Gili and unspotted so far, we nuke the base today torching 70+ aircraft on the ground. Base is hit hard and not operational anymore and the base forces are hit hard also. This should make our retreat less dangerous, I don´t expect any offensive power at this base tomorrow.




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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 108


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd/B Division, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 54
P-40E Warhawk x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 41
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32
SBD Dauntless x 72
TBF Avenger x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed, 14 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
TBF Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano, Bomb hits 2
CA Atago, Bomb hits 2
AK Koho Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Agano
AK Taki Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet

this is the setback I´m talking about. Yesterday we spotted CA Kumano at Port Moresby under heavy Cap and our carriers were covering our bombardment TF 6 hexes South West of Gili Gili. To bring my SBDs in 1000lb bomb range we had to move 6 hexes! Our TFs were all fully fueled and I decided to leave our CAs alone to go in and hit the enemy TF hard. At full speed our carriers could move 8 hexes (got some slow BBs with them) and how far did they move at full speed? 5 hexes, which means our SBDs dropped 500lb bombs (and achieved a lousy hit rate anyway). But still we have more than 100 torp bombers in torp range now! And what happens? We launch the lousy number of 15 torp bombers against this high value TF. This just sucks. Not a single British torp bomber took off, only one US torp bomber sqadron and that was it. To top it off once again, we even achieve one torp hit - that failed to detonate...

So this means we lost 15 carrier based aircraft for nothing and Hortlund gets away again. For no obvious reason we don´t move far enough, for no obvious reason we launch a ridicoulos strike. In fact, the Japanese should have lost 2 CAs today.

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Day Air attack on TF at 21,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 24
IL-4c x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
IL-4c: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

at least our bombers from Ceylon attack once again and put another 2 500lb GP bombs into Hosho. The other two damaged CVEs weren´t attacked.

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Day Air attack on TF at 21,33


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi
CS Chiyoda

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

another strike goes in against the remnants of the CVE TF but all miss. Hortlund told me that he was surprised that my bombers launched unescorted against his Cap. I asked him if it was a joke that he thinks that 3 Zeroes on Cap (CVE Hosho) should scare my high exp bombers, but he thinks this should be like that. Looks like we have found another thing about the game where we don´t agree.

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41686 troops, 545 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 1517

Defending force 94846 troops, 932 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 1696



Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported



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TF 53 encounters mine field at Andaman Island (23,34)

Japanese Ships
DD Uzuki
DD Kisaragi

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Sub attack at 32,51

Japanese Ships
AP Karimo Maru
MSW Wa 1

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon

we start the day with 4 torps that missed...

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Sub attack at 33,51

Japanese Ships
AP Dainiunyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wa 1

Allied Ships
SS Triton

but one hex to the East there´s Triton in position and fires 6 torps at the small AP and probably sinks it...

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 153

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 24 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
284 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 124

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet

4 Wellingtons are lost but at least we achieve an acceptable hit rate at normal range.

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Day Air attack on 33rd/B Division, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 131
Kittyhawk I x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

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Sub attack at 33,51

Japanese Ships
AP Kinjosan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wa 1

Allied Ships
SS Triton

wow, Triton gets another shot at this TF today and hits another small AP that immediately sinks. There´s something going on with my subs...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41824 troops, 546 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 1515

Defending force 94627 troops, 925 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 1696



Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported



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[this is the setback I´m talking about. Yesterday we spotted CA Kumano at Port Moresby under heavy Cap and our carriers were covering our bombardment TF 6 hexes South West of Gili Gili. To bring my SBDs in 1000lb bomb range we had to move 6 hexes! Our TFs were all fully fueled and I decided to leave our CAs alone to go in and hit the enemy TF hard. At full speed our carriers could move 8 hexes (got some slow BBs with them) and how far did they move at full speed? 5 hexes, which means our SBDs dropped 500lb bombs (and achieved a lousy hit rate anyway). But still we have more than 100 torp bombers in torp range now! And what happens? We launch the lousy number of 15 torp bombers against this high value TF. This just sucks. Not a single British torp bomber took off, only one US torp bomber sqadron and that was it. To top it off once again, we even achieve one torp hit - that failed to detonate...



If you can figure out how to get a CV TF to move the exact number of hexes you want it to, please let me know. Because that has happened to me over and over; you move to be in position, and somehow they end up 5 hexes away or just short, which is worse than not moving at all. I hope AE has a button "Do Not Refuel Destroyers in CV TF Next turn, under penalty of death".


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TF 73 encounters mine field at Rangoon (29,34)

Japanese Ships
DD Kari

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TF 75 encounters mine field at Andaman Island (23,34)

Japanese Ships
PC Kunashiri

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Sub attack at 26,34

Japanese Ships
MSW Banshu Maru #8
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW W.20

Allied Ships
SS S-35

MSWs heading from Rangoon to Andaman Island. 4 MK10 miss...

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 72
B-26B Marauder x 90

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 25 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 18000 feet

the Marauders are hit hard everytime (today we lose 5) and in return they achieve nothing...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 99


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 100
B-24D Liberator x 95

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 4 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 8 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 29 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
394 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 108

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 11000 feet

I guess Hortlund didn´t expect that one. Thursday Island, PM and Gili Gili have nearly no aircraft but PM is LRCAPPed heavily every day, so the only base those fighters can come from is Lae which we have been targetting for 3 days already. Morale of our bomber crews isnn´t existing anymore but we achieve a nice result at extended range. Seems like the high exp of our 4E crews pays off. We destroyed over 100 Zeroes the last three days on the ground but mostly A6M3 which are already being replaced by A6M3a and with a production of 250+ every month, the Japanese are only laughing about their losses on the ground.

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63


No Allied losses

Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 47


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Mortar Battalion, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 137
Kittyhawk I x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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At the end of the day, here comes the highlight:

Sub attack near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot

I ordered 3 subs from Diamond Harbour to race South to blocade the shipping lane from Andaman Island to Rangoon and arriving at Andaman Island, Cachalot spots the heavily damaged CVE Taiyo and fires two MK14 torps from her rear tubes sinking the CVE with one hit. And CVE Chuyo was reported sunk also!

The time of those pirates in the Indian Ocean is over! Hurrey! Hopefully the two Kate daitais are completely lost also.




I have sent out CA Frobisher, a CL and 2 DDs from Colombo on full speed to engage shipping at Andaman. Several TFs are spotted there and my cruiser squadron will arrive there tomorrow as the TF took position unspotted today.


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41953 troops, 549 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1514

Defending force 94641 troops, 929 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 1695



Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported





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CVE Taiyo class

Year Completed Taiyo: 1941
Unyo: 1942
Chuyo: 1942
Displacement 20,000 tons
Dimensions 591'4" x 73'10" x 26'3"
Speed 21 knots
Armament 8 x 5"/40
up to 64 x 25mm/60
up to 10 x 13mm/76
27 aircraft
Crew 850






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Status: offline 		Just got caught back up. Nice news about the CVEs.  In the long run, the loss of all those DDs has got to hurt. Once you start getting the Fletcher's in numbers, he is going to pay. Placing a few Cleveland Class CL along with the Fletchers in a SC TF should give even the Japanese CA some pause.

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