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RBG Editing Questions - 4/12/2008 5:59:00 AM   
Erik Rutins

 

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RE: RBG Editing Questions - 4/12/2008 8:28:54 PM   
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Erik,

The template portion of the manual didn't mention reinforcement rules for unit placement.

I'm assuming, from the other templates, that is why the infantry placements are all along the edge of the map??

Also, I have a suggestion .... I think edge placement should be coded with a REINFORCEMENT ONLY tag. I've noticed in RBG or RCG that it seems to place this location on initial start ... I could be wrong, I haven't played many random games yet (just 3) but I have a feeling ....

Thanks,
Rob

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RE: RBG Editing Questions - 4/12/2008 9:38:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any platoon placements within 100m of the edge of a map template have the chance of being used as reinforcements if the battle plan allows for reinforcements. That's basically the rule.

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RE: RBG Editing Questions - 4/14/2008 12:56:02 AM   
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Any platoon placements within 100m of the edge of a map template have the chance of being used as reinforcements if the battle plan allows for reinforcements. That's basically the rule.


Ok, you mentioned chance of being used as reinforcements ... from this I gather there's a chance it uses these locations during the initial random setup for non-reinforcements ?

If so ... I think this is bad ... IMO. If that location is in open terrain the infantry will be toast on the first few turns because of bad placement. Please change this and have these edge locations ONLY reinforcement locations.

Thanks again!!

Rob

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RE: RBG Editing Questions - 4/14/2008 12:58:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those locations could be needed in high point density battles, so we have to leave the possibility of using them for normal placements as well. In most cases, stationary infantry is not easily spotted. As long as the player during placement moves them into or behind cover, or waits to move them until he knows where the enemy is, it should work fine. I've played random battles where I had a platoon use one of those placements and it didn't really cause me any trouble.

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RE: RBG Editing Questions - 4/14/2008 1:05:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
I've played random battles where I had a platoon use one of those placements and it didn't really cause me any trouble.


Erik,

Yes, they don't cause me any trouble either ... I'm thinkin for the A/I's sake ... or does the A/I get a chance to move his/her units during setup?

Hmmm.... another idea ... have the A/I move his/her units during setup . Hmmm, after placing the units, before my setup, it can reroll the A/I placements until they roll outside ... ONLY for those lousy open space rolls.

Anyway, yes ... I see your point . Just a suggestion for the A/I (he maybe a smart player but has a lousy judgement on placement).

Rob

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Presets ? - 7/30/2008 2:55:02 AM   
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I think you mentioned elsewhere that the other XML's in the Preset folder are unaccessable for RBG's right? I mean, for the moment that is. Can they be used for the RCG or am I thinking battlepans for RCG?

Sorry, it's been months since I dove into the random generated part of this game ... and I'm going back to researching what's been talked about, etc.

Thanks,
Rob

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RE: Presets ? - 7/30/2008 3:53:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mraah

Erik,

I think you mentioned elsewhere that the other XML's in the Preset folder are unaccessable for RBG's right? I mean, for the moment that is. Can they be used for the RCG or am I thinking battlepans for RCG?

Sorry, it's been months since I dove into the random generated part of this game ... and I'm going back to researching what's been talked about, etc.

Thanks,
Rob


Rob,

There is a simple switch called showinmenu in the preset xml for the RBG to display that preset or not to the user. All presets etc are available to the RCG.

This was done so the user wasn't overloaded with too many esoteric presets.

Regards

S.

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RE: Presets ? - 7/30/2008 4:26:28 AM   
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Rob,

There is a simple switch called showinmenu in the preset xml for the RBG to display that preset or not to the user. All presets etc are available to the RCG.

This was done so the user wasn't overloaded with too many esoteric presets.

Regards

S.


Doh ! I totally missed that ... thanks. Here's a screenshot if anyone else wants to change it (maybe I'll make a mini-mod).

Thanks!





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RE: RBG Editing Questions - 2/1/2009 8:34:53 PM   
rickier65

 

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Leaving original msg in case someone else does the same dumb thing.

My problem was that changing Side 1 points, impacted on Side 2, so I had to also change Side 2 points. Ended up setting both to 500.

Thanks
Rick

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SOLVED
I'm working on a battle plan for 3rd Pz Div. I've entered the I Bn of 6th Pz Rgt as core units.

When I went into RBG to test it, I got error 042 "error in points field".

I went back in and changed pts field to 600 - same result, changed it to 500, same result.
Below is line that has points field:

Any ideas?

<side name="german" player="human" preset="random" posture="attack,attack,defend,defbonus" points="500" reinforcements="yes" exp="veteran,elite" str="operational,full,under" minefields="none,sparse" setup="east,east,east,east,north east,north east,south east,south east,north,south,north west,south west" briefing="">

thanks,
RIck


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