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Powerful British Snipers - 4/22/2008 11:28:50 PM

brucha

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I am just starting a Long WW2 British campaign - of which I will be posting AAR reports above :) - and I noticed something very odd. I choose to play a British Infantry battalion based after the South Staffordshire regiment - I did a good deal of research on the regiment and selected a base force based on its original ToE, which included 2 snipers attached to each company HQ.

In my first battle, I fought a delaying action against the Italians, whose force was a mix of motorized infantry and tanks. Amazingly, in the first 2 turns, my snipers managed to disable 4 lancias, destroyed another lancia, and destroyed a fiat car.
And to add to my amazement, this was acccomplished at ranges between 9 and 13 hexes!

Is there something that I am missing? Are snipers THAT powerful as they can take out vehicles - albeit trucks and cars - with a shot or two? Has anyone else seen vehivle-killer snipers like this?

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/23/2008 1:00:25 AM

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Wait until you see a sniper take out a 30+ ton tank during a surprise close assault!

However, I personally have not seen a sniper take out vehicles at such long ranges...at least in my previous experience playing the game.

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/23/2008 1:37:49 AM

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Which version of the game are you playing? Snipers underwent some changes in recent versions, so the long-range Rambo no longer exists. However, they can still pick off the drivers of uncovered unarmored vehicles, so drive carefully.

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/23/2008 3:23:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: brucha

I am just starting a Long WW2 British campaign - of which I will be posting AAR reports above :) - and I noticed something very odd. I choose to play a British Infantry battalion based after the South Staffordshire regiment - I did a good deal of research on the regiment and selected a base force based on its original ToE, which included 2 snipers attached to each company HQ.

In my first battle, I fought a delaying action against the Italians, whose force was a mix of motorized infantry and tanks. Amazingly, in the first 2 turns, my snipers managed to disable 4 lancias, destroyed another lancia, and destroyed a fiat car.
And to add to my amazement, this was acccomplished at ranges between 9 and 13 hexes!

Is there something that I am missing? Are snipers THAT powerful as they can take out vehicles - albeit trucks and cars - with a shot or two? Has anyone else seen vehivle-killer snipers like this?

No way.

The only thing I can think of is that snipers are really experenced and/or a sniper using AP rounds?

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/24/2008 1:41:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Which version of the game are you playing? Snipers underwent some changes in recent versions, so the long-range Rambo no longer exists. However, they can still pick off the drivers of uncovered unarmored vehicles, so drive carefully.

I am playing version 8.3, if that can help explain it, though I do not know of the differences between some of the older versions.

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/24/2008 1:57:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: brucha

quote:

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Which version of the game are you playing? Snipers underwent some changes in recent versions, so the long-range Rambo no longer exists. However, they can still pick off the drivers of uncovered unarmored vehicles, so drive carefully.

I am playing version 8.3, if that can help explain it, though I do not know of the differences between some of the older versions.

in 8.403 snipers can no longer close assault tanks
but thats not the problem you describe.
maybe just a fluke

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/24/2008 3:35:13 AM

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Well, I will soon see if this was just a one-time fluke. I am coming close to the end of my first battle - check out the AAR entitled, "2nd South Staffords Long Campaign" in the AAR Reports section. I am interested how my snipers fair against the German vehicles, who I will be fighting soon, if not the very next campaign battle.

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/25/2008 5:48:52 AM

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Snipers can well kill unarmoured vehicles. Anyone with a weapon can - in the game. You can kill them with bayonets if they come close enough. Practically you'll have to think it in a way that when an enemy car or truck is disabled, the sniper got hit to a tyre or some crucial place in the engine. When a car or truck is destroyed you may imagine it as a good hit to driver causing the car or truck to go sideways and fall over or hit a tree (when in desert, they all hit the very same and only tree within twenty square kilometers).

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/26/2008 12:17:46 AM

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A round through the radiator will kill any car...eventually. A round through the engine block will kill it quicker and a .30-06 round should crack the block at anything less than a hundred yards {conservatively}.

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RE: Powerful British Snipers - 4/29/2008 3:50:42 PM

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If the commander is riding fully exposed in his turret, then a good sniper can (and often did) kill him. In the case of a two-man or three-man tank, losing the commander effectively removes the tank from the battle. In game terms, this is a 'kill'. Although scoring a hit at 500m is remarkable!

Check you target tanks before you shoot to see whether they are ready or buttoned. A buttoned tank should not fall to a sniper at this range.

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