BurntFingers
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ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta
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Signor Beretta,
You have not answered my question on what exactly YOU personally are doing to help further ANW. Without an answer from you I feel no obligation to answer your questions.
That's easy. I worked and still work to find, reproduce and confirm bugs in the engine since well before "Harpoon 3" was a Matrix product - but was supported by the twin efforts of Jesse Spears and HarpoonHQ. I contributed to DB2000 when it was the main third-party Db for the game. I strive to help not only Herman but whoever would desire to mantain a complete and open buglist, with workarounds where possibile, so that new players and AGSI can be aware of the issues (fact is: just now Herman is the only third-party willing to do it).
I do own (and I'm the only one who pays for) a site, www.harplonkhq.com, where everybody can post his own scenarios and databases for any version of Harpoon for free - by just only asking me permission to do so (if you wish I can tell you the story behind the humorous name).
I did discover the problems with the way DB2000 was maintained by his author - problems that led to the need to create a new third party Database from scratch:
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23874
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23949
I wrote a preview of ANW for "The Armchair General" so to raise awareness about the product when it was about to be published by Matrix Games
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/preview-harpoon-3-advanced-naval-warfare.htm
I'm a professional reviewer, in Italy, and I wrote about the Harpoon line both in our monthly magazine and in our Strategy special issues. I could post the scans, if you wish.
And, generally speaking, I do my best, both publicly and privately to separate unuseful "rumors, slander, badmouthing" etc. from *facts* in the Harpoon community - since, historically, there had been too much of the formers, and too little of the latter.
All of the above it is not - I wish to stress it - for self-promotion or anything. I just happen to like the game - were it in a decent state. And all the info I gave to you would have been readily available with a Google search and/or a search on these Forums.
This is for what regards your inquiry. Now, can I be gratified by some answers to mine? For example, I find interesting this statement of yours
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"I am unfamiliar with any PDB scenario, so I cannot comment on any individual scenario.
However, I reiterate that my complaint is with the compromised signatures within the PDB itself. "
How can you reach this conclusion, given the former admission? Exactly.
Oh, and, BTW, if your "complaint" reallly coincerns you, you still have the opportunity to reach Herman on the places he usually frequents - including, now that I think about them:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScenShare/
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FilesOfScenShare/
Two mailing lists created *exactly* with the aim to help people to better enjoy the game, get advice for creating scenarios, reporting bugs (and getting workarounds) and reporting problems with various databases. I think you will find that Herman is more than ready to answer personally to any doubts you can have regarding HIS work for the community, should you contact him on any forum and usenet Newsgroup he posts to (like, as I already have pointed out, Gamesquad, Subsim, HarplonHQ and the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.war-historical newsgroup). At least it would be, IMHO, a better way to get answers than relying on "messengers": talking directly "face-to-face", so to speak.
The more you write, the less you say. Have you actually reported any bug issues to AGSI? 4,000 words and I'm still none the wiser.
FIXING Bugs? AGSI fix the bugs if they get reported. Not me. Not you.
Now, for a few choice excerpts;
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I do own (and I'm the only one who pays for) a site, www.harplonkhq.com, where everybody can post his own scenarios and databases for any version of Harpoon for free - by just only asking me permission to do so (if you wish I can tell you the story behind the humorous name).
So you want me to register on a site that you own... thereby revealing my email address.
...given the past record of others who have done so, I will pass thank you.
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I did discover the problems with the way DB2000 was maintained by his author - problems that led to the need to create a new third party Database from scratch:
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23874
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23949
A misleading and deceitful statement. The origin of PDB was clearly pointed out to you in this thread. You chose to ignore the evidence right in front of your eyes;-
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1172277&mpage=2&key=
You also seem to take great pride in causing arguments and confusion;-
http://groups.google.gr/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.war-historical/browse_frm/thread/a21a93768175003c/f677812d24afa7f8?lnk=st&q=%22beretta%22+%22proud+of+it%22+%22colossal+flamewar%22&rnum=1&hl=el#f677812d24afa7f8
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I'm a professional reviewer, in Italy, and I wrote about the Harpoon line both in our monthly magazine and in our Strategy special issues. I could post the scans, if you wish.
How delightful. A self confessed critic. Who is so good at it that he still earns his money that way, rather than earning his money from being creative.
Now to clean up a couple misunderstandings;-
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Well, PDb scenarios could be published with the line "Please, we are poor people, our children are starving, we have no solace in our lives, except for the occasional scenario we publish. We know that our scenarios suck, but, please, say that you enjoy them anyway, so our children can find a little bit of happines while surfing the internet". But it would be, IMHO, surreal, not to mention false, since, AFAIK, PDb users are not starving.
However, I still fail to see where a PDb scenario creator defined "his work the best thing since siliced bread" - beyond the usual enthusiasm that surrounds any new Mod/scenario announcment for any game. Could you point us a specific link where this happened?
As I cannot afford to buy sliced bread (prices have rise 60% in this area in the past year) I find your first paragraph arrogant, offensive, patronising, and rude if not perhaps moronic.
As for the 2nd paragraph, "It's the best thing since sliced bread" is an English idiom that means "It's an overhyped piece of junk that we can't think of anything else good to say about." I was talking about the hype surrounding the PDB, NOT an individual scenario (English has loose rules on identifying the meaning of "it" in a compound sentence - the subject is not always the first mentioned noun, it can also be the last mentioned noun.
I hope that clarifies my post. I object to claims about PDB being "the best thing since sliced bread", ie "an overhyped piece of junk that we can't think of anything else good to say about". Not the scenarios (although by definition they can't be toooo hot).
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More appropriately, again, I wonder if your "unability to" is based on facts or on "rumors". If it is based on tangible facts, please, point us to them - with quotes and links. If it is based on rumors, "things you have heard", innuendos, "general consensus" etc. - I can only point you - again - to how, in words, Herman is still the worst part of Michael Moore rolled with the worst part of Ann Coulter, while, *at the same time*, in facts, his buglist is used to finally make a serious attempt to fix the game. There is no need, IMHO, to go beyond this.
His buglist? He refers to other people's efforts but does not name them. Other people who have been fingered by Herman say it's Hermans. Gee, it's such a good bug list nobody wants to take responsibility for it.
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PDb designers point out both problems with the ANW core program *and* with PDb. Which problems you do feel are not pointed out enough? Exactly.
Uhuh. NAME THEM PLEASE. Let's have Herman's little helpers outed. You've already put yourself in that catergory, and indicated "WE" so you are not the only one. Who? Exactly.
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Yes: for example, I can point out of this "you (blah blah) while I/us (blah blah)" is a way to arbitrarily divide the community, again, in factions of "us vs. you". Actually, *WE* are doing our best to fix the game, heal the community, produce free third party add-ons (never forget about this: everybody does it for pleasure and for sharing such pleasure (since nobody gains anything, except slander and disparaging), work around the bugs, provide the opportunity for enjoyable MP experiences, and space to host DBs and scenarios (HarPlonk is open to anyone asking for it - for free).
What's this "we" nonsense? You brought that in. I asked YOU personally, just YOU, what you were doing. You haven't fixed any bugs; neither have I. That is the AGSI programmers role and nobody can take that away from them. Did you tell AGSI about these bugs? No you did not.
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And you. What are you doing for the game, apart from giving lectures about ethics without good, supporting foundaments, and at the same time fail to accept criticism?
Well, my beta test agreement states that I cannot reveal my own activities as far as fixing bugs go... but I don't hear AGSI complaining about my activities here.
I can give you one concrete example. Page 10 of your "bug list" gives "Ammo Dumps Emptied". The same bug is reported on page 17 (it seems you are not the only one who repeats himself;
So I went through all the ODB scenarios with 3.7, recorded the original munitions types, plane loadouts, ammo dump types, airbases, whether or not a scenario actually had any airbases or ammo dumps, and posted the text files to AGSI. That way whoever gets to fix it is saved the difficulty of switching between 3.9 and 3.7.
Nobody asked me to. This was in addition to my usual beta test activities and had nothing to do with them.
Maybe AGSI already have a corrected version and don't need my work. That's not the point.
I DID SOMETHING TO TRY TO HELP. Not as part of the beta test process. But to demonstrate a commitment.
And you talk about me with the "blah-blah-blah". But is it true you are actually a professional public relations consultant, and so know all about hot air to hide unpleasant facts? This may or may not be true.
But it sure does sound true.
Out of space... Time for a fresh post.
< Message edited by BurntFingers -- 4/28/2008 5:50:45 PM >
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