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Mafia - 5/10/2008 3:58:10 AM   
JudgeDredd


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Status: offline 		Some one on the wargamer forums mentioned a sequel to the Mafia game called, erm....Mafia 2!!

And it got me wondering...why did I complete that game so many years ago?

I mean, I have a shed load of games. Some you can play to completion (EUIII, Civiliazation IV, Rainbow Six Vegas), others "not to completion" (F1 99-02, GTR2, Flight Sim X)

There are, from what I recall, 3 games I have "completed" in my life...Mafia, Max Payne and Call of Duty 4. There could be more, but those "stick out".

So why do those games stick out...out of the "hundreds" of games I played?

The immediate answer that springs to mind is STORY. Each one of those games has "a story" and not just any story...a compelling story. You really want to see what goes on with the character...you bond with them in a way you do not or may not with other games.

Alot of my games can be classified as "non -ending" in that, for example GTR2, when I complete a season, I can start a new season and up the ante as it were.

But of all the games I've EVER completed (and I am sure there are more than the 3 I mentioned), these 3 stick in my mind because the story was excellent.

So I think maybe I need my games to "tell me a story" and be compelling about it, if I am to remember it.

Anyway, Mafia.

I tried to find my old copy, but must have sold it at a car boot sale. So I bought it from Game for £4.99. Well...that was this afternoon at 12pm. It's now 01:51 and I've just decided I MUST STOP in order to be ready for tomorrow's BBQ....the story is fantabulous. You immediately warm to the character. You understand why he has to/will do the things he has to do.

I am completely sucked in again!

The game, for any people who like FPS games, is an absolute must buy...and it's so cheap now. AND...it will get you up to speed for Mafia 2.

When I bought it and played it, it was the best £29.99 I paid for a game, ever. For £4.99...even though it's my second time round, I can't help but feel I'm ripping off the devs...they produced a gem here.

Absolute classic.
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RE: Mafia - 5/10/2008 4:35:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi JD,

You said it friend! That game (Mafia) is amazing. I played through it twice and you are right it is a classic.

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RE: Mafia - 5/10/2008 5:24:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mafia was simply superb. No other word does it justice.

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RE: Mafia - 5/10/2008 7:39:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gta 3 and vice city never got completed. But like you mafia and call of duty 3 did. The  other one I really remeber finishing was half life 2 and that excellent game system shock 2.

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RE: Mafia - 5/10/2008 10:12:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mafia had a very good story. Few if any games ever achieve that level. Story usually doesnt matter in computer games. Its often secondary to everything else.

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RE: Mafia - 5/11/2008 10:21:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Remember the race at the track before the noob patch.

OMG it was truly imposable wining that race, I cant remember how many times my key board driving skills failed on the last lap .

True classic


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RE: Mafia - 5/11/2008 10:51:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never played it, although I'm tempted now   I have to say that most of the games that I have completed have had good (IMO) story lines.  A good story line will drive the game forward, and also tends to compensate for slight flaws in the game.  The games I most remember finishing are the likes of Blade Runner, Monkey Island Games and Call of Duty 4.  Good times 

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RE: Mafia - 5/11/2008 1:51:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I could never do the beat-everyone-up-with-baseball-bats level.

Which is a shame, it was a blast up until then.

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RE: Mafia - 5/11/2008 4:23:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dixie

I've never played it, although I'm tempted now


The game is still in sales (cheap) and the graphics havent aged that bad. I just replayed it through few months ago. I would still give it ago especially now that sequel is in works. Its better than any of the GTAs imho (story in those games is ridiculous and childish plus the characters are mostly insane).

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 1:03:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Krasny

I could never do the beat-everyone-up-with-baseball-bats level.

Which is a shame, it was a blast up until then.

Probably one of the best endings to a game ever...and you missed it unfortunately.

There is a cheat for invulnerability of you do get that "cheesed off" feeling in the game. I've been known to run the occasional cheat to get me over a level if it's getting to the point where I'm going to lob the computer.

As for the baseball bat...the trick is to get behind them, click and hold to build up power in your swing and then let loose...a full pelt whack on the head is normally all it takes.

I've been stuck on all the levels I was stuck on in my last run in with the game (not ran a cheat yet, though). Been playing it all weekend. Even the "Free" wheeling is fun...just drive round the city, speeding, outrunning the cops, shooting bad guys...pure carnage.

Great game. Not finished it yet, though.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 1:30:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		You forgot the sheer pleasure of just looking at things. Driving around in Lost Heaven, listening to the sound track and soaking up the immersion factor. It's beyond fantastic.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 3:44:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reading the comments here I'm up for trying this. Does anyone know if it is Vista friendly?

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 9:57:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

You forgot the sheer pleasure of just looking at things. Driving around in Lost Heaven, listening to the sound track and soaking up the immersion factor. It's beyond fantastic.

Yep...forgot about that. ON free ride, just driving around, taking in the sights. You even get to pic up passengers in your cab and they tell you to take them some where.

So sweeeet.

And sorry, Mac67, but I don't know if it's Vista compatible. But the game is worth buying a copy of XP and reformatting...ok...too far

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 1:27:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the tips, you're Judgeness.

I will reinstall the game.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:06:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mac67

Reading the comments here I'm up for trying this. Does anyone know if it is Vista friendly?

lauter52 over at wargamer on this thread said he had Mafia working on Vista

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:15:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't believe they are making a sequel. It'll probably not run on my current PC and that stinks.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:20:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I personally think they shouldn't have. Mafia is such a good game it should have been left to stand forever and ever, amen.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:25:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Big T,

I agree, but I am hopeful it will be entertaining, that's the very least it could offer.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:33:19 PM   
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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:44:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm along the lines of your thinking T...I wonder if they can follow Mafia. It really is a very high benchmark in terms of overall gaming experience.

I took a drive down to the Lighthouse last night and sat in the car listening to the waves lapping the cliffs and the seagulls....in the game, by the way...not real life!

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:46:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's just SO much stuff to see in free roam, and such a great story to get through in the game.

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 2:54:08 PM   
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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 4:48:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Remember the gunfight in the parking garage? That was cinematic.

Anyway I did a google search for Mafia 2 and found the site.

It's called Mafia II : http://www.2kgames.com/mafia2/home.html


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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 5:21:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Garage scenario was released as the demo and sold me...I went out and bought it on that basis.

Thx for the link...I'll be keeping my eyes open for this one

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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 7:56:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks to the positive comments I've now ordered the game.  It had better be as good as you say   Else I will be very upset...


..well maybe a little bit sad.  But it'll be all your fault


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RE: Mafia - 5/12/2008 10:27:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's only £4.99. I'd say you'll get that much fun out of it at the very least

And make sure you watch the intro...best intro to a game I remember!

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RE: Mafia - 5/13/2008 2:31:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

The Garage scenario was released as the demo and sold me...I went out and bought it on that basis.

Thx for the link...I'll be keeping my eyes open for this one



Hi JD,

I did not know it was released as a demo, that's interesting.

Regards,

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RE: Mafia - 5/15/2008 7:50:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL:  JudgeDredd

Probably one of the best endings to a game ever...and you missed it unfortunately.

How would you know?
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ORIGINAL:  JudgeDredd

There are, from what I recall, 3 games I have "completed" in my life...Mafia, Max Payne and Call of Duty 4. There could be more, but those "stick out".

I have to say I played it on XBOX and it dragged.  I finished it and loved the ending but it was no GTA.

I liked the airport mission most I think.

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RE: Mafia - 5/15/2008 10:11:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ORANGE

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Probably one of the best endings to a game ever...and you missed it unfortunately.

How would you know?


I know...fair point. All I can say is, the ending was so good, I find it hard to believe there are many out there that would match it, let alone beat it.

I like unexpected endings...in films as well as games.

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RE: Mafia - 5/15/2008 11:36:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

I know...fair point. All I can say is, the ending was so good, I find it hard to believe there are many out there that would match it, let alone beat it.

I like unexpected endings...in films as well as games.

The ending was great. A lot of the story was great. But it did no make up for the clunky game play in my opinion. I actually would have enjoyed it more if I just watched the cinematics. I found the cars to be very similar amongst class of car. It did have some good dialogue on the missions if you took time to listen.

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