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ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 2:12:43 AM   
Mobeer


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Status: offline 		When ASW goes wrong - I have no idea what the game is thinking of here:


ASW attack at 59,51

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 21 destroyed
B6N Jill: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-63A: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter VIF: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Chitose, and is sunk
PC Awaji, and is sunk
MSW Banshu Maru #51, and is sunk
AP Takayo Maru, and is sunk
AK Tetsuzan Maru, and is sunk
AP Hibi Maru, and is sunk
AP Rozan Maru, and is sunk
AP Fukuju Maru, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
1493 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


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RE: AWS gone wrong - 5/22/2008 2:14:08 AM   
Terminus


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Status: offline 		Looks more like a really heavy case of shore bombardment-itis. Certainly not an ASW attack.

Is this a PBEM? Perhaps you have synch problems?

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 2:23:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mobeer

When ASW goes wrong - I have no idea what the game is thinking of here:


ASW attack at 59,51

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 21 destroyed
B6N Jill: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-63A: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter VIF: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Chitose, and is sunk
PC Awaji, and is sunk
MSW Banshu Maru #51, and is sunk
AP Takayo Maru, and is sunk
AK Tetsuzan Maru, and is sunk
AP Hibi Maru, and is sunk
AP Rozan Maru, and is sunk
AP Fukuju Maru, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
1493 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Did you recently have a TF run into a mine field?

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 5:57:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is this real?  Has Mobeer been drinking with Knavey?

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 7:52:11 PM   
niceguy2005


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Status: offline 		Looks like a Speedy late war sub attack to me. 

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 8:13:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mobeer

When ASW goes wrong - I have no idea what the game is thinking of here:


ASW attack at 59,51

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 21 destroyed
B6N Jill: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-63A: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter VIF: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Chitose, and is sunk
PC Awaji, and is sunk
MSW Banshu Maru #51, and is sunk
AP Takayo Maru, and is sunk
AK Tetsuzan Maru, and is sunk
AP Hibi Maru, and is sunk
AP Rozan Maru, and is sunk
AP Fukuju Maru, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
1493 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Obviously a load of depth charges (ASW) were delivered to hex 59,51 where the ship carring the DC's exploded sinking all the other ships in the harbor, damaging the airfield, destroying A/C, and troops. This happen just as two allied A/C were passing over the harbor, thus being destroyed.

It's all so simple.

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 8:22:57 PM   
rtrapasso


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Status: offline 		Sometimes stuff like this shows up with carryover from ships sinking at the beginning of the turn... so, if a TF with the CVL Chitose got smacked last turn, and sank this turn, this kind of stuff might show up.

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 9:37:02 PM   
Mobeer


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Status: offline 		Well there are some bits I understand.
- The game is against the Japanese AI. It overloaded Chitose with too many aircraft making it an easy sinking.
- The allied losses I think must have been training related operational losses - the only P63 units are inactive Soviet units on training.
- The other ships are probably ships sunk earlier in the turn by airstrikes, they might have appeared in the message logs as the turn progressed.
- Then the troop loses would have been from a merchant ship sinking

Still no idea but the ASW description though. Maybe I'm too upset about sinking Hibiki to think straight.

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 10:04:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Even in my very limited experience I have seen bizzare things appear in ASW combat reports such as even befrore a listing of the forces involved it includes a message that such and such a pilot has bailed out or been killed when no planes are involved.

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/22/2008 10:29:45 PM   
niceguy2005


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Status: offline 		As rtrapasso said, this is a known bug, where losses that occured previously are actually reported during and ASW attack.  It's just rare to losses of that magnitude.  IIRC casualties due to damage caused by mines frequently is reported in ASW combat.

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/23/2008 12:16:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pbear
Obviously a load of depth charges (ASW) were delivered to hex 59,51 where the ship carring the DC's exploded sinking all the other ships in the harbor, damaging the airfield, destroying A/C, and troops. This happen just as two allied A/C were passing over the harbor, thus being destroyed.

It's all so simple.


And that explains everything .... but maybe those ships were sunk by waves ?

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RE: ASW gone wrong - 5/23/2008 4:06:44 AM   
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