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RE: Hmmm... - 5/23/2008 1:38:47 AM   
ny59giants


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Status: offline 		While your busy defending the "fatherland"...sorry wrong theater of war.

I'm looking ahead at lack of enough Kawasaki engines to met production demands. We have 200 engines per month being produced, but need 473 total when the Tony-c com on line in less than 2 months (-273/month ).
I hope you plan to stop the Tony-b production and switch them over to R&D for a early '44 plane (your choice). That will still mean we need another 141 engines per month to produce the 407 Tony-c (do you think we need that much of just one airframe?).
Thus, on your next turn, please expand the Kawasaki factorys at Fukuoda by 20 and at Nagoya by 40. This will keep us short by about 80 engines per month, but it gets us closer to our goal.

We have a good surplus of Mitsubishi engines and the difference between what will be needed for Nakajima (current plus R&D) is less than 100 engines and will addressed afetr the Kawasaki issue is closer to being fixed.

This WitPTracker is nice to aid a novice like me get a better handle on production.

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??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 7:00:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK. All this dilly-dallying has driven me nuts. Just watched the August 27th turn and he lands at TORI SHIMA with 650 troops! Pardon me but WHAT THE HE**??!! Why land there? It is 5 hexes from Toyko has AF ZERO and Port 1...



I'm rather apoplectic at the moment...



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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 8:27:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jeepers John!

That is really strange on the part of your opponent... With all of the sorties he's been flying on your TFs and with his TFs so close to your strength while so far away from his support...

What can you sorty from Japan? Do you have subs that can close the back-door?

I think I'd be on Dan like stink-on-roadkill...

Can you attack with your CVs driving on Iwo Jima from the east and use land-based air units from Japan/Iwo? It would be cool to get him between the hammer and the anvil - I just don't know if you can do it quickly.

If you have fighters @ Iwo and they sweep, they'll fatigue his air units for anything you can through from Japan and your CVs - right?

With all of the allied TFs I'm not sure your TBs/DBs/LBs will target his carriers on the 1st attack...

Patrol aircraft have the legs to help id his units and some of those have torpedoes - right?

Just curious - what would happen if you put some of your fighters on Naval attack @ 100ft? Talk about a target-rich environment... His CAP will probably be at 10k - I wonder if they'de even engage fighters coming in hugging the water...


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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 10:25:55 AM   
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Jeepers John!

That is really strange on the part of your opponent... With all of the sorties he's been flying on your TFs and with his TFs so close to your strength while so far away from his support...

What can you sorty from Japan? Do you have subs that can close the back-door?

I think I'd be on Dan like stink-on-roadkill...

Can you attack with your CVs driving on Iwo Jima from the east and use land-based air units from Japan/Iwo? It would be cool to get him between the hammer and the anvil - I just don't know if you can do it quickly.

If you have fighters @ Iwo and they sweep, they'll fatigue his air units for anything you can through from Japan and your CVs - right?

With all of the allied TFs I'm not sure your TBs/DBs/LBs will target his carriers on the 1st attack...

Patrol aircraft have the legs to help id his units and some of those have torpedoes - right?

Just curious - what would happen if you put some of your fighters on Naval attack @ 100ft? Talk about a target-rich environment... His CAP will probably be at 10k - I wonder if they'de even engage fighters coming in hugging the water...





If he puts his fighters on 100ft nav attack then he will lose 50%+ to CAP and the rest to flak for NO GAIN. A couple of 20mm cannon hits on the armor of a CA, CL or if he´s lucky on a DD won´t do him any good. Using fighters (or any other aircraft) on 100ft nav attack doesn´t make sense in the game IMO. The only reason would be to attack barges or PTs.

If he would lose 100% of those fighters on escort for the result that they took down one enemy fighter, then those fighters would have already achieved more than if they would do nav attacks at 100 ft.


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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 4:11:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I sat on the turn overnight to try and THINK about what he is doing.  Simply makes no sense and it infuriates me to watch!

What do I have in the area?  I moved from my assembly areas in Mukden and Osaka about 100 Fighters, 150 Army Bombers, and 75 Kates to Tokyo.  Additionally, I have sortied the 3 CVL/6 CVE at Osaka, ordered them to hug the coast, and get to Toyko.  They bring 250 aircraft.  I plan to Recon Tori Shima and see is there is CAP.  If there is not, I will order a strike set at that range and see...

As to warships, I have just the escorts around the CVL/CVE:  2 CA, 4 CL, and about 15 DD.  Could fling them at Tori Shima as well...

Any more ideas gang?

WHY would he land there?  Hell--My small BF managed to hold him off behind Sz-3 Ports!  Won't happen again though.  Iwo Jima would be a far better target if this was his true objective.  He cannot do ANYTHING with this rock.  It has Port 1, AF 0, and is useless...

Grrrrr...

Edit: Just noticed that we have sailed over 10,000 hits on the AAR! That is pretty cool and thanks for everyone reading!



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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 4:23:23 PM   
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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 5:52:43 PM   
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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 6:04:18 PM   
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Simply makes no sense and it infuriates me to watch!


A tutored swordsman need fear only two opponents;

a) A superlative swordsman who is simply far superior in talent and experience and

b) those who have received little tutelage in the art of swordsmanship.

Of these the most feared would be the untutored as a superlative swordsman will be known by his manner of movement, preparation etc and so his ability will come as no surprise - there is a chance to apologise and survive such duels or at least, anticipate the timbre of his moves even if one cannot match their quality - whereas the untutored man, not having the benefit of tutoring which has knocked all the "stupid ideas" out of his head, will take it into his head to do things which are so full of flaws that they cannot succeed .... IF they are guarded against.  The problem being that since you are tutored you are trained to fight other tutored swordsmen and thus do not face such "obvious and crazy" gambits often.... and thus do not guard against them.

In that dichotomy lies the reason that many a tutored swordsman died whispering "But that's crazy, it should never have worked."

I trust that my point is clear and hope it is somewhat helpful.

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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 6:21:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		As to Tori Shima...

You are thinking of territory and ways he can use that to hurt you. This is a uni-dimensional view which is unfortunate. I would suggest to you that you look at it from his point of view.

Tori Shima is pointless in terms of its immediate benefit to any naval or aerial US combat strength in battle around Iwo Jima SO its capture must not be directly related to adding more fighters or ship to the battle.

So let's run through some of our Soviet force multipliers then...
Mass ( doesn't increase his mass, doesn't allow basing of land fighters or add ships ).

Recon - Allows some minimal increase in recon capability vis a vis your fleet sortieing from Tokyo.

Simultaneity - Tori Shima isn't required for simultaneity on his invasion of Iwo Jima --- which is obviously coming next.

Surprise - It does make you wonder but it isn't a strong enough position to make you wonder so much as to unbalance your entire front.

Logistics - Well, when you strike deep you need to ensure your logistics lines. You can be sure he has brought along a lot of supplies, AOs etc BUT unless I am mistaken he cannot replenish his ammunition bunkers at sea this early in the game.

He must, undoubtedly, be expecting your fleet to sortie and he will be expecting it to sortie against what he first invades. He also knows Iwo Jima will take a little while to fall. So, I think if you look at it from HIS position it is reasonable to take Tori Shima... Let me paint a picture:

1. Take Tori Shima. Base Surface Combat TFs there and LRCAP with CVs based between Tori Shima and Iwo Jima. Group amphibious TFs with the CVs.

2. Await your aerial attacks on the ships at Tori Shima ( which his LRCAP should shatter ) and also await your night naval attacks. Each day he replenishes his surface combat TF AAA and anti-ship gun ammunition from Tori Shima ( In effect due to the game design HE can stay on station and fight for longer than your ships once he takes Tori Shima in spite of the fact that Tori Shima is in your back yard ).

3. Yes he will take casualties BUT his only choice is WHERE he fights ur fleet, not if he fights it. And given that lack of choice he would obviously MUCH prefer to fight it at Tori Shima than Iwo Jimo. In effect he will pull the teeth of ur surface strike fleet and air force and ensure that you don't have a surface strike fleet left to sortie to Iwo Jima when he groups around that island and lands there. Remember that if you got a SC TF into the Iwo Jima hex while he was landing you would probably force some amphibious TFs to pull away from Iwo Jima, disrupting his landings and hugely increasing his casualties as you'd have to take another day or two of opposed atoll landings.


Overall taking Tori Shima seems, to me, to make a lot of sense but ONLY if he is going to invade Iwo Jima. My advice to you is to ignore Tori Shima and to focus everything you have on flying troops into Iwo Jima and gathering KB to make a fight of it near Iwo Jima. If you can gather your surface fleet in the Iwo Jima hex ( under cover of massive IJA fighter CAP ) then so much the better. An evasive high-speed routing first south-west and then east would seem the best bet for actually reaching Iwo Jima.


Lastly I would say to you to review this definition of strategy/higher operational art. A campaign strategy is comprised of a series of acceptances, forcings and declinations of battle such that each acceptance, forcing or declination furthers the strategic goal. You are aggressive and rushing to fight at Tori Shima BUT what is your STRATEGIC goal and is that BEST SERVED by accepting surface action at Tori Shima ( when you do have the option of declining it in order to accept OR FORCE a surface action elsewhere ... e.g. the night his landing forces begin landing at Iwo Jima ).



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RE: ??? Don't Understand ??? - 5/23/2008 6:57:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damn Nemo...that is masterful work.  Welcome to the 'Advisor' club within the AAR! 

I came to the same conclusion though in not so masterfully written a manner.  Actions taken:

1.  I have ordered a limited strike on naval forces at a range of FIVE hexes from Tokyo.  If he has units at Tori Shima then I will take a swipe at them.

2.  Did NOT sortie units from Tokyo to attack Tori Shima.  I think I will sortie the CVLs/CVEs NE, then East, and finally cut in behind his forces heading for a rendezvous with the KB.

3.  Formed up the KB in Truk.  3 CV TF and 2 STF were created and will begin moving to Saipan on the next turn.

4.  Ordered a Fuel TF (59,000 Fuel) to change its destination from Truk to Saipan.  This way I have plenty of fuel on hand for operations.

5.  Upgraded another Daitai to Jacks, ditto for a Daitai of Betty I to II, and am rapidly watching my A6M5 production ramp up as well as Jack, Judy, and Jill.

6. Hopefully snuck in two Sentai of bombers to Iwo Jima and set them to range zero.

There should be some aerial action this coming turn...

Combat Report
August 28, 1943

Tori Shima
Taken by a Marine Para Btn and 147th RCT.  Why?  Who cares...

Chichi Jima
Began a landing on this desolate rock...  Why?  Who cares...

Response
Already detailed the important action.

Rangoon/Moulmein
Another attack lowered Forts down to 6.  Am evacuating as fast as possible.  Have already pulled ALL support troops and about 50% of the infantry.  each day gives me about 10% of the Infantry moved to Moulmein.  Knocked down a bunch (15-20) of his Liberators that were set for Naval Attack this turn.

Adelaide/Broken Hill
Dan withdrew from these hexes!    The Aussie MLR holds again!

Brisbane
I have began to load an Infantry Division from here to be shipped north.  This still leaves me with 1 Inf Div to hold the town against all but a determined attack.

Australia Note
I am pulling out nearly 75,000 resources from here every 2-3 weeks right now.  It is a long haul but every convoy that makes it is a bonus for the longterm health of the Japanese economy.



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Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 12:02:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		The die is now cast. Dan has landed in MASSIVE proportions at Iwo Jima. Why? I couldn't begin to explain or even understand...

The title of this posting should certainly serve to get Dan's attention! I want him thinking that I am coming right at him NOW!

I'm not but it should help raise his paranoia level.



From: Colonel Ikezama Yoshito
Commander 9th Infantry Brigade
Iwo Jima

May it Please His Majesty I beg to report on the American landing on Sulphur Island. At dawn an Invasion Force of unbelieveable numbers filled the ocean around our small island. A TF of 3 Battleships attempted to bombard our mostly complete bunkers. There was no effect upon us from this bombardment.

A total of TEN seperate Task Forces began disgorging their troops just after dawn. As they moved into position I--personally--counted 78 underwater mine explosions on freightors, 18 explosions on troop transports, and a single explosion on one of the American LSTs! Troops were being rescued left and right from terribly wounded ships! It was glorious to watch.

Our minefields remain largely intact and expect more damage to be wreaked upon the American shipping throughout the next several days.

The High Command was quite wise to divert the entire Infantry Division that was to land here last week. There is no way that our forces and it could hold off the Americans. We have taken count of over 7 American Army and Marine Divisions taking part in the landing. An additional 14 units have been identified and I am forwarding that list to you in another communique.

I expect that our garrision of 18,000 men will be overrun tomorrow. May the Empire last 1,000 years! BANZAI!

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Combat Report
August 29, 1943

Iwo Jima's minefields registered 97 seperate explosions as the Americans landed! How about that... Dan is landing with a force that is beyond reckoning. Now that it has been wasted upon this island, I am quite happy that he chose to land here instead of Luzon or the Marianas. I would have lost those targets as well.

With the damage inflicted by my mines as well as the rest that will certianly occur over the next couple of days. I think I have firmed up a plan for making him pay for all this. The closest port that his ships can disband into is MIDWAY! I have 16 SS moving into the area starting tomorrow and ALL my CVs will move to cutoff his retreat. Someone mentioned earlier that either I should damage his CVs or his AK/AP to force a retreat. I will do that but only by taking out as much of his shipping as possible while he hovers in his newfound territory.

This might truly be interesting and fun...







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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 4:10:10 AM   
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TO:  Imperial High Command
FROM:  Col. Ikezawa, C-in-C  Iwo Jima
 
May it Please the High Command Japanese forces still defend this island in the name of His Majesty Emporer Hirohito.  We are totally surrounded by hundreds of enemy vessels and are being bombarded night and day.  Though the bombardments haven't caused much damage, morale of our men is suffering. 
 
I have withdrawn our troops to the Fighter Strip and Mount Surabachi.  Many thanks for the Transport pilots who braved their lives to lift out vital staffs from our units.  I know many of our Topsy's were shot down by enemy fighters.
 
Surprisingly, the enemy has not seriously attacked us.  He satisfied himself with a heavy bombardment and that is all.  Considering all that we can see mounting up on the beaches, when the attack does come it will be massive.  We hold our ground in the best tradition of the Empire!
 
My observers spotted another 30 mine explosions today as ships continued to unload.  We personally witnessed nearly a dozen enemy ships sink just miles off shore.
 
Perhaps I will be able to send another update tomorrow!
 
Col. Ikezawa
 



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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 4:14:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		John, if you guys are not going to be playing turns over the long weekend, it will be a long one, indeed! 

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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 4:58:45 AM   
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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 6:05:13 AM   
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Admiral John,
Looks like our ship production needs to be adjusted per the newest version of WitPTracker.

See screenshot for explanation. which of the BBs do we halt??




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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 6:46:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just got a PM from Damian, so I may have jumped on this too soon. But I shall learn...I hope.

Maybe Damian can pick a ship here and explain what each column means for a novice like me.

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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 8:17:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		If we have to, we will slow the CVs since they won't be finished until the end of 1943.  Those BB have a much more pressing need right now.  I have bombardment targets sitting (literally) at 5-6-7 hexes away from Tokyo.  Those are ripe to be hit with my BB Hybrids and/or Musashi.

When you find out let me know.

Have to mention that I had a very successful Raid on Tori Shima by a 2 CA, 2 CL, and 3 DD TF!  Had PTs and AKs sinking left and right for NO LOSS!  Will try to do a combat log report tomorrow morning...

Feel like I have to whittle the American Fleet down by little jabs instead of a massive attack!  Baby steps...


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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 8:34:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Stop all your subs, and don't accelerate any carriers that are in the 'building' stage. If delay is less than durability *10, then put those on normal, since it cost 3 times the normal SYP to build. But make sure all your CVs that are delay greater than dur*10 are accelerating, that only costs 2 times normal SYP.

As your BBs finish, that will free up points that you can put back into those nearer term CVs. Oh, and don't accelerate Taiho - very expensive to do so.

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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 9:57:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry John, hope you don't mind me explaining what I see in the shipBuilding... in this forum.
OK. some thing you need to understand first
1. Ships are able to build if their durability * 10 < delay. These ships can be
accelerated, at triple the durability cost. or it means that "Start Building" is (-) numbers (how many day it has been building)

2. Ships not in the first group, but can be built at accelerated if durability * 30 < delay. The
cost to accelerate these equals durability. Sorry Feurer King, you are wrong about this, it's not twice.
look for Start Building (+) numbers = So Days until it will start. (John has none here)

3. Ships Durability * 10 = the normal number of days to build a vessel. Also adding Delay and Start Building give total build time.

4.Build Points/Aggregate - just gives a running total as you go down the list.

5.The other columns are to manually calculate ... via a drop down on the CalBr column.

Onto the analysis at hand. John has 1366 Naval Points per turn, 2 surplus from the previous round, and if all were to build he'd need 2113 points, a deficit of 747 points. Next turn he should have a surplus of 18 points.

Status:
Building: means this ship will be built next turn, reducing it's delay.
Pending: it is due to build, but there are not enough available points.
Queued: Delay is more than 10x Durability (so if less than x30 they can be accelerated - see pt 2)

So SS I-12 is the last ship to build using 33, for a total of 1350.
John has 1366+2 = 1368 and is one point shy of building the next boat ... which I can't see from the screen shot.

I'd stop accelerating CV Aso and Kasagi (points used 438 -> 146 = 292)... they will still build next turn (their Start Building is negative), and accelerate Ise. (105 ->315 = 210) and still have 82 points to play with, to accelerate some DD's or maybe let some subs build.

Additionally:
Testing shows that the points are calculated down the DB list, when there
are not enough points to build a ship, it is not built and if there are surplus
points, these can be used for any other ships down the list that 'can' build,
provided there are enough points available. Unfortunately going down the
list from this point does not always work correctly, as can be seen the
occasional anomaly. Future releases will show what ships have built that
turn.

I hope this clears it up somewhat, although maybe I should re-write this ... Michael you can use the drop down on CalBr to play with the permutations ...

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RE: Activate Sho-3, Repeat Activate Sho-3 - 5/24/2008 12:50:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, I'm sold!  Even as an AFB, I'm downloading and playing with Tracker this afternoon! 

...after I catch up on John and Dan's AAR's, that is. 

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Building - 5/24/2008 11:01:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Guys!  Crazy thing is I just sent Dan his turn before reading this.  What I did was take the two CVs off of acceleration, speed up Ise, and bump 4 DD who are within 6-30 days of completion.  HOLY COW!  This is exactly what you recommended.  Guess I got lucky there...

This AAR has really turned into a tutorial for Japanese players.  I hope the economic talk and tracker discussion has helped people.  It has really proven to me that though I may be pretty fair at strategy and tactics, I didn't have a clue regarding economic issues!

Dan thinks I am this masterful player who doesn't need help!  Boy is he wrong about that.  Glad for all the Sage Advice and Thoughts.

Let me work on my next update... 

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Rr-Adm Kawahigashi Reports... - 5/24/2008 11:21:19 PM   
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TO:  C-in-C Combined Fleet
RE:  The Battle of Tori Shima---August 30, 1943
 
Task Force Composition:  CA Maya and Furutaka, CL Agano and Natori, and 3 DD
 
Orders:  Sortie from Tokyo Bay at full speed and engage enemy shipping around atoll Tori Shima.
 
Log:
 
1230  Depart Toyko Bay
 
1300  Order Full Speed
 
2230  Approach Target and slow to Combat Speed
 
2240  Radar reports several TF of small ships and one TF of larger stationary ships.  Order course change to slip between small ships and make for Torpedo Attack on larger vessels.
 
2248-50  3 Enemy PT-Boats spotted and 2 are sunk almost immediately by surprise gunfire.  No damage to TF.
 
2303-2308  Attack anchored TF of 4 Merchantmen.  Numerous 5-6-8" Gun Hits as well as 6 TT hits observed.  3 AK sunk and the 4th seriously damaged.
 
2307-2318  Second Enemy PT Group spotted after they had launched TT.  DD Oboro takes a Torpedo but is still able to make 22 knots.  She sinks her tormentor.  One other PT-Boat confirmed sunk.  Minor damage reported by other 2 DDs due to machine gun fire hits.
 
2345  All ships ordered to Full Speed for return to Tokyo Bay.  DD Oboro ordered to make best speed possible for home.
 
August 31, 1943
0730  TF enters Harbor
 
0800  All ships drop anchor and begin replennishment/refueling.
 
1750  DD Oboro safely returns to Tokyo Bay



September 1, 1943
Special Dispatch Arriving at CA Maya


FROM:  C-in-C Combined Fleet
TO:  Rr-Adm Kawahigashi, Commander TF 37
 
Orders:  Repeat attack upon enemy shipping at Tori Shima.  Wait for arrival of 3 DD to supplement TF 37 and then conduct operation as you see fit.
 
Additional:  Task Force 58 comprising BB Mutsu and Nagato plus 14 DD ordered to Tokyo Bay from Manila Bay, Philippines on August 30th.  Estimate arrival on or about September 5th. 
 
Adm Yamamoto Isoroku

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Colonel Ikezawa Reports: We're HOLDING! - 5/24/2008 11:29:24 PM   
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TO:  Imperial High Command
FROM:  Col. Ikezawa, C-in-C  Iwo Jima
 
May it Please the High Command Japanese forces still defend this island in the name of His Majesty Emporer Hirohito.  Imperial Forces still hold this island and deny it to the enemy.

The enemy made a half-hearted attempt to attack my forces today.  The Americans--though in considerable numbers--do not seem to know where they are.  Maps were taken from the corpses of several officers that indicates the enemy had planned for a landing in the Philippines; however, diverted here with only a few days notice.  Am sending this intelligence on several different Transports in the hopes that at least one makes it through to Tokyo.

My forces easily repulsed the American attack today though his bombardments are becoming more damaging as we hold out in our bunkers.  Though encouraged, I am still certain of how this will end.  We shall work to leave a lasting impression upon the American invaders!
 
Banzai! 
 
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The Evacuation of Rangoon - 5/24/2008 11:43:21 PM   
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Burma
The evacuation of Rangoon has gone remarkably well!  Dan didn't shift his bombers over to naval attack until the 29th and I have been able to move massive numbers of troops to Moulmein and Tavoy.  I estimate the removal of nearly 75,000 of 110,000 soldiers and support troops since the evacuation order.

Allied air has hit a number of AK/AP but far less then I expected.  I felt that the evacuation would cost over 20 ships but--so far--it has only cost a pair of AK.  There are 8-10 ships seriously damaged and headed for Singapore though.

I've waited for the loss of Rangoon for nearly 5 days.  Instead, Dan has ordered Deliberate Attacks that have slowly knocked the Forts down but not taken the CITY/PORT!  It is this development that has enabled me to withdraw as many troops as I have.  Yesterday's attack on the Japanese positions scored a 4-1 against Forts at 4 and my men still HELD!  Forts dropped to 2; however, and I will lose the city on the next attack.  I have a HUGE barge force (AP Value 3,700) that will keep shuttling troops from Rangoon to Moulmein once the base is gone.

My Fighter Force, which was once magificent here is now pretty well beat-up.  I have been withdrawing the Sentai to Hanoi to reprovision and see where their skill levels reset at.  It doesn't look good though there are still a ton of ACES within these Sentai!  Will do a report on that later...

I cannot complain about the loss of Rangoon.  The city held out for months when I should have lost it very quickly.  My Air Eagles made the Allies pay in huge numbers of downed fighters and bombers.  Considering that it is Fall 1943 and I STILL have the advantage in aircraft shot down, this is a very nice thing!

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RE: The Evacuation of Rangoon - 5/25/2008 1:27:49 AM   
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To: War Minister

Re: Oil

Sir John,
A recent review of the distribution of Oil throughout the Empire shows that the Oil crisis in the Home Islands is over (hopefully for some time ). Even though this report is a few days old.

TF 26 is at Brunei loading 24k of Oil for Siagon, which should give that region enough for about a month. Add to that the recent shipments to South & North China, and all HI should be working 24/7 except for about 400 HI too close to the front lines in Australia.

Next will be getting the Fuel from the now fully functioning HI to various bases and form a tactical reserve to be able to meet the IJN need to react forcefully to the Allied attacks.

Sincerely,
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RE: The Evacuation of Rangoon - 5/25/2008 2:39:06 AM   
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Dear Sir,
I fear the crisis is bigger than initially thought, only 14 Days remain of Strategic Oil Reserves, and only the Emperor knows if there is enough Oil at each base to create fuel and more importantly allow our Heavy Industry to function. You should be able to see below your Table, as to where oil is in each base. A State of Emergency must be declared, loyal subjects should be lined up fireman style from Sasebo to Toyko with buckets. And all trains, trucks and carts made available to distribute.

Similarly the 199000 Oil in transit to Japan, will only last approx (199000/(9540-1500))= 24 days.

It is the recommendation of this underling to change the regions reported, the main Island of Japan is not connected to Hokkaido, and although Hokkaido is self sufficient, it gives an opportunity to see if you can pull resources and Oil out of there.The adjusted cluster, shows there are 8895 HI in Japan (these are not Johns figures, they are from my calculations).

I must implore you, without Oil, no Heavy Industry can function, even if you have resources. Heavy Industry does not work unless Oil is equal to HI, you cannot fill the tank half full and drive it!

No Oil = No HI = no engines/ac/ships/etc = surrender and [gulp], maybe a use for my shiny new sword.

Finally, Shanghai and Nanchang, have no oil and are producing none of the 450 HI we could get. Formosa is down to 9 Days supply, there are 480 HI factories there & Indo-china and Thailand are walking on a tight rope. This problem will need daily management, until the problem can be resolved.

Sincerely,
Your humble ever bowing servant.

[edit] maybe this smacks of a drama queen on coke, but it is cause for concern. attachment loaded now.





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RE: The Evacuation of Rangoon - 5/25/2008 2:49:35 AM   
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To: Minister Benoit

From: A Jumped-up Pen paranoid pushing bureaucrat


Dear Sir,
I fear the crisis is bigger than initially thought, only 14 Days remain of Strategic Oil Reserves, and only the Emperor knows if there is enough Oil at each base to create fuel and more importantly allow our Heavy Industry to function. You should be able to see below your Table, as to where oil is in each base. A State of Emergency must be declared, loyal subjects should be lined up fireman style from Sasebo to Toyko with buckets. And all trains, trucks and carts made available to distribute.

Similarly the 199000 Oil in transit to Japan, will only last approx (199000/(9540-1500))= 24 days.

It is the recommendation of this underling to change the regions reported, the main Island of Japan is not connected to Hokkaido, and although Hokkaido is self sufficient, it gives an opportunity to see if you can pull resources and Oil out of there.The adjusted cluster, shows there are 8895 HI in Japan (these are not Johns figures, they are from my calculations).

I must implore you, without Oil, no Heavy Industry can function, even if you have resources. Heavy Industry does not work unless Oil is equal to HI, you cannot fill the tank half full and drive it!

No Oil = No HI = no engines/ac/ships/etc = surrender and [gulp], maybe a use for my shiny new sword.

Finally, Shanghai and Nanchang, have no oil and are producing none of the 450 HI we could get. Formosa is down to 9 Days supply, there are 480 HI factories there & Indo-china and Thailand are walking on a tight rope. This problem will need daily management, until the problem can be resolved.

Sincerely,
Your humble ever bowing servant.


To the bowing servant who may see a sword soon,

I became Economics Minister in very early 7/43 (post #336 or so). Prior, I was assigned to the Psych Warfare Ministry. A brief analysis of the situation required a change in the viewpoint of the War Minister (John 3rd) and the War Ministry does not take feedback as easily as others do. If you do not approach them in the right manner, you could easily end up as fish food.

In less than two months time, we have had a large supply shipment of supplies reach both Palembang and Balikpapan to restart repairs on the damaged Oil centers there and stop Resources repairs for now. Ambonia has also received supplies. All three were below or only breifly above the 10k for repairs.

The initial priority was getting Oil to the Home Islands as a whole as they were close to dry resulting in sporiadic production of HI. Since most of the HI centers are based here, this was given first priority. We are about to have our second significant TF of Oil reach here.

Some Oil was sent to Singapore and then Siagon to get their HI back producing. Small shipments were sent to the three HI centers in the Philippines. The brave sailors of a TF was able to get in and out of Hong Kong twice to evac the 60,000 in Oil earlier this month.

Finally, 2 TF, of 24,000 each were broken off from the recent mega-oil TF to go to South and North China to restart the HI and ensure some production for the near future.

We've had to change over from a paper intensive tracking system to a more modern one (WitPTracker), but the IT Department (me) was a little slow in pushing for the conversation until very recently.

I have managed, with a variable degree of success, to get the War Ministry to realize that TF cannot make a leg of their trip without a useful purpose (ex. - Oil to Japan; Fuel to Manila, Singapore: rinse, repeat). The ships disbanded in Manila, Singapore, Java were near empty and now they can get underway with more than fumes in their bunkers.

The War Minister is a nice guy (for the most part), but my ministry only gets to put things into motion about once or twice daily (IRL) while the game may have gone 4 to 6 days. Plus, my suggestions in my emails don't always get acted on as promptly as I would like. That's my OCD-ness speaking.

I know their is more "micromanagement" to do, but John's war machina is slowly heading in the right direction....I hope.

If you continue to offer positve feedback and due respect to this minister, I may see that you get a promotion with the appropriate priviledges.

Minister Benoit

p.s. Next is to get the Resources loaded from Hanoi (over 200,000) by sending in 100k worth of AKs to Camhran Bay and "hope" the AI moves them down.


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RE: The Evacuation of Rangoon - 5/25/2008 3:34:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		TF assignments as of 8/28 - economic wise. There may be some missing, but if they are they should be small in size.

So, sub-Minister Damian, Am i headed in the right direction??




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RE: The Evacuation of Rangoon - 5/25/2008 4:20:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Minister Benoit,
Thanks for the advice, I'll watch my tongue in future.

I look up from my notes to see my wife smiling wistfully as she sharpens my dress uniform sword, she thinks I cannot see her.

I fear not to infuriate my overlords, but have little advice at this time. Things look better, except for the resources going to Thailand TF120, Bangkok should have a surplus. Have a look around Darrien & near bases for excess fuel/Oil too ... as a quick "small" top up method.

Humbly I beg that you send some Oil to Formosa, Thailand & Indo-China as they should be the next priorities.

I think I'll open some Sake and celebrate, for things are never as bad as they seemed at first glance.

Your ever faithful servant.
Damian

I think an addition to the Table, to show Oil/Res/Supplies in the main table would work better, than below ? But admire your handy work.

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Dear Ministers... - 5/25/2008 5:21:01 AM   
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After picking myself up off the floor from the earlier Letters sent to this Office, I must make plain that the War Ministry is attempting to fight off a DIRECT threat to the Empire in the form of this INSANE invasion of Iwo Jima and surrounding islands!  The might of the Kaigun is moving for an engagement with the American Imperialist Devils.

Put simply economics was NOT not preferred or even a required course in the War College.  It gives me a headache.  The rules--as I learned them from the GREAT HANDBOOK--said that you hauled Resources/Oil from one point and then it got AUTOMATICALLY shipped to all revelvant points in the Home Islands.  After nearly two years of highly successful war someone has to temerity to explain to me that this doesn't WORK! 

Having drunk a great amount of Sake and trying to remember that economics IS important to a modern war machine I must humbly submit to my inferiority of knowledge in this area.  Consider the GREAT HANDBOOK to be thrown out for the worthless piece of trash that it is.  I am trying to make amends for this and if the Americans were not only 300 Miles from Tokyo we would have more time to work on this problem.

I must now turn to the latest news from the Front and will send you a new report for your esteemed imput sometime this evening.

Do not sharpen your blades.  You may need them to fight off the enemy if this American INSANITY actually succeeds at Iwo Jima. 

Most Humbly Yours,

War Minister Cochran

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