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Don't understand my depot problem - 7/15/2008 10:55:33 PM   
Nibelung

 

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Status: offline 		Pope (in Shiloh) is on the main grid (#211 for me), all troops are in supply. I have boats on the river, but the depot gave me no help for activation. Why that? And this is not the first time I have this kind of problems.

The rail is damaged (not destroyed), but anyway you can be supplied by a continuous link of regions, no?

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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/15/2008 11:42:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		The CSA probably raided your depot meaning you had less than 20 supply present. What you should do is build 3 depots with your AC. You can then disband those later when the front moves further south.

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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/16/2008 5:04:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thats my first guess also Jan. AC's should have at least 2 depots, if theres a good Cav leader raiding then 3. If supply drops below 20 then the added initiative is gone...Keep your Cav screens up or trouble is sure to follow...


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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/16/2008 7:10:35 AM   
Nibelung

 

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Status: offline 		I don't remember being raided and it shows that I have 20 supplies in the bottom panel. 

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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/16/2008 7:55:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		It will show 20 supplies on the depot because it replenishes during your turn AFTER the check for initiative. Check the "e" report to see if any raiding happened. Other than that I cannot explain what happened.

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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/16/2008 8:00:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nibelung

I don't remember being raided and it shows that I have 20 supplies in the bottom panel. 

Look at your "E" report from the previous turn. As long as you are producing sufficient supplies at the end of the turn, they will first go to "top off" any depots on the map. After that the supplies not used for unit production remain on the map in their production city. I had the same misunderstanding at first, until I saw that I was getting no "Depot Help" for my AC's that were sitting on depots showing 20 supplies - during my turn - until I started paying attention to the previous turn's raiding results.

Personally, I would like to see depots actually get destroyed if they are reduced below 20. In the case of multiple depots in a region, then destroy any that are not fully stocked. In other words, reduce the number of depots in a region to the number of full 20 SP multiples. Of course, this would require building (or rebuilding) a lot more depots, so to get the right overall effect. It might then be a good idea to tone down some of the more drastic results you see in the game, as soon as the players start building up decent-sized raiding groups, where you regularly have 100-150 supplies getting captured and destroyed each turn.

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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/16/2008 9:14:39 AM   
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Good guess, vets! Very confusing to players though. At least an icon on the depot saying it is not usable this turn should be added, this should not take much time to the team and would help.

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RE: Don't understand my depot problem - 7/16/2008 3:11:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JAMiAM
Personally, I would like to see depots actually get destroyed if they are reduced below 20. In the case of multiple depots in a region, then destroy any that are not fully stocked. In other words, reduce the number of depots in a region to the number of full 20 SP multiples. Of course, this would require building (or rebuilding) a lot more depots, so to get the right overall effect. It might then be a good idea to tone down some of the more drastic results you see in the game, as soon as the players start building up decent-sized raiding groups, where you regularly have 100-150 supplies getting captured and destroyed each turn.



I second destroying depots that are reduced below 20 as a conservative fix to a problem that, while small in the overall scheme of things, is confusing to new players and annoying thereafter.

The sheer number of captured supplies seems historically excessive. I suggest it be reduced, with more supplies being destroyed. However I would also add a rule that whenever a depot is created a supply officer is created in the region. Troops can be assigned to this officer to reduce the effects of raids. This would nicely simulate the main effect of raids to draw down troops out of front line duties into security detachments. The effectiveness of the troops would depend both of their numbers, experience, troop type and (negatively) the success of previous raids. Unguarded supplies should yield even more supplies to raiders than the way it is now.

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Nibelung said:
Good guess, vets! Very confusing to players though. At least an icon on the depot saying it is not usable this turn should be added, this should not take much time to the team and would help.


Short of the above... how about just tinting the existing depot red, if it is unusable.

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