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ORIGINAL: TheOx

My B17s don't seem to want to attack a big Jap TF near Rabaul despite their being in range. They are set to Naval Attack and 0% patrol. What am I doing wrong here? They are at the edge of the black line.

It doesn't make any sense, Admiral. Were we better than the Japanese or just luckier?

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ORIGINAL: bjmorgan

When conditions are right (all those things Gem35 listed), they'll attack, and sometimes with devastating consequences, especially againt AKs, APs, MSWs, and even DDs.  The can also do a great deal of damage against other ship types, too, but the results seem to be much more tenable.

Realize though, that the game models reality in some interesting ways, and sometimes even when everything is perfect for an attack, the unit just stays home and swats mosquitos instead.

My experience is that as time goes on, and the availability of escorts to help out to a decent range begin to appear, the bombers fly.  In my current game, the KB wandered into a 4E trap and simply disappeared over a four or five day period.  All six carriers, five by 4E, one by a land-based Avenger squadron, are on the bottom.  My guess is that a lot of the aircrews went with them, but I'll never know for sure.  And this was during July '42.  (I'd start a new game, but I'm waiting for AE.)

So, be patient, make sure you produce the good attack conditions as much as you can, and eventually it will work.

Fortess fortuna iuvat

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ORIGINAL: hawker

Bingo,4E historically fly zillion missions against ships

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ORIGINAL: VSWG

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ORIGINAL: hawker

Bingo,4E historically fly zillion missions against ships

4Es flew naval attack missions more often than Nells/Betties carried torpedoes.

*runs

Fortess fortuna iuvat

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ORIGINAL: hawker

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ORIGINAL: VSWG

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ORIGINAL: hawker

Bingo,4E historically fly zillion missions against ships

4Es flew naval attack missions more often than Nells/Betties carried torpedoes.

*runs

Agree, IRL 300-400 4E flew every day and massacre everything since 1942

Must say,historically correct

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P.S. You are right about Betty,they are same menace just like 4E

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ORIGINAL: hawker

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ORIGINAL: bjmorgan

When conditions are right (all those things Gem35 listed), they'll attack, and sometimes with devastating consequences, especially againt AKs, APs, MSWs, and even DDs.  The can also do a great deal of damage against other ship types, too, but the results seem to be much more tenable.

Realize though, that the game models reality in some interesting ways, and sometimes even when everything is perfect for an attack, the unit just stays home and swats mosquitos instead.

My experience is that as time goes on, and the availability of escorts to help out to a decent range begin to appear, the bombers fly.  In my current game, the KB wandered into a 4E trap and simply disappeared over a four or five day period.  All six carriers, five by 4E, one by a land-based Avenger squadron, are on the bottom.  My guess is that a lot of the aircrews went with them, but I'll never know for sure.  And this was during July '42.  (I'd start a new game, but I'm waiting for AE.)

So, be patient, make sure you produce the good attack conditions as much as you can, and eventually it will work.

Bingo,4E historically fly zillion missions against ships

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ORIGINAL: BShaftoe

Leader aggresivity is also a factor, isn't it?. What I find surprising is that AV support is a factor in the number of planes flying. This is, according to Skripta, it only has an influence on the speed of repairs on land, and obviously, this will influence the number of planes flying the following day, but... has it a DIRECT influence on the number of planes flying in any given mission?

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ORIGINAL: TheOx

My B17s don't seem to want to attack a big Jap TF near Rabaul despite their being in range. They are set to Naval Attack and 0% patrol. What am I doing wrong here? They are at the edge of the black line.