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What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 6:24:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is this more like Risk? Or more like Civilization?
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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 6:30:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say its more like the Paradox games (Europa Universals specially), but with a different spin.
So, its a deep strategy game, definitely much more complex than Risk and more historical than Civilization.
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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 7:23:12 PM   
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Is this more like Risk? Or more like Civilization?


Gamespot has a review on this game.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 7:27:22 PM   
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It's worth mentioning that I believe that's a review of the original non-updated retail release - the game has come quite a ways since then from what I've seen.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 7:41:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gosh I hope so, that's good to see! How has it been upgraded though? I remember reading the review in PCGamer and it was about the same. Maybe they had the same version?

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 7:47:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I found it in PCGamer September 2007 but it is called Great Invasions: The Dark Ages "350-1066 AD". Is that the same game?

Anyway the above named game got a 35%.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 10:45:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe these are all reviews of the retail version, but I could be wrong. I know there were some fairly major issues in some of the earlier versions, so perhaps that's why the low score. From what I've seen and the folks who've played this version and commented, the updated version is a good game that's definitely worthy of a higher score. I guess my advice is to wait for some of the comments and reviews here if you have doubts.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/4/2008 11:06:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, AFAIK, all of the reviews are for the Strategy First boxed release of the game. There is a long sordid story about patching and releasing the game early, but that needs not be discussed here. Needless to say, I think GI is a game that does not appeal to all people, and the major news outlets tend to be more harsh with "non-traditional" games like this.

I do not own either version of the game, but I understand from many people out there that the patched up version is FAR different and MUCH better than the original out-of-box version.

The reviewer for Out of Eight is typically pretty fair with his reviews (and I still think this is an out-of-the-box review, due to how late we got this in the US). Check out what he said.


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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 12:01:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I bought the AGEOD version of this a while back and no way is it a 35% game. I suspect that reviewer suffered the same malaise as the Gamespot one, can't-be-arsed-to-learn-how-play-it-itis. The Out of Eight review is right on the money, at least regarding the game I played; I know it's been patched since.

This really is one to try for yourself as there is a significant 'love it or hate it' element there. If you enjoy the Paradox games and the period interests you GA is certainly well worth the money.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 12:17:16 AM   
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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 2:40:12 AM   
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This really is one to try for yourself as there is a significant 'love it or hate it' element there. If you enjoy the Paradox games and the period interests you GA is certainly well worth the money.


Then this game needs a demo. I have several Paradox games and I like most of them, except Victoria.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 3:35:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, when I got Great Invasions it was the first retail version from Strategy First, hence the date on the review. So what does an extra year plus of development reap...

(oh yeah, I'm the Out of Eight guy, just in case you didn't know)

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 4:45:41 AM   
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Yeah, when I got Great Invasions it was the first retail version from Strategy First, hence the date on the review. So what does an extra year plus of development reap...

(oh yeah, I'm the Out of Eight guy, just in case you didn't know)


Just the other day I went through many of your reviews. Thanks for all your work!

I keep reading that the original version is different from this newer version but have yet to read why?!



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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 7:45:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		It looks like a game i played some years ago which was called Pax Romana!

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 2:21:46 PM   
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Just the other day I went through many of your reviews.


So that was YOU! :)

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 3:25:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JaguarUSF

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ORIGINAL: LarryP
Just the other day I went through many of your reviews.


So that was YOU! :)


I tried to be quiet but my mouse was grumpy.


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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/5/2008 10:46:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LarryP

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ORIGINAL: LarryP
Just the other day I went through many of your reviews.


So that was YOU! :)


I tried to be quiet but my mouse was grumpy.


ROFL...

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/6/2008 6:37:26 AM   
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Yeah, when I got Great Invasions it was the first retail version from Strategy First, hence the date on the review. So what does an extra year plus of development reap...

(oh yeah, I'm the Out of Eight guy, just in case you didn't know)


Great site you have there! I trust you WAY more than most of the other news sites out there, particularly because you actually take the time to learn how to play and give a nice and educated review (with funny comments and intelligent comparisons). Gamespot reviews read like a form letter with [insert game name here] is the best/worst of the [insert genre here]. Thanks for all your work!

I am kicking around getting Great Invasions still. Unfortunately, no one made a widescreen mod, like they did with Vicky and HoI2. I could play in a window, which would be okay, but not my main preference.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/6/2008 6:43:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've played all the Paradox games and enjoyed them all, and that's what Great Invasions seems most like.

I bought the game a few months ago from Gamestop and got it fully patched up. Unfortunately, the game seems so clunky and so impenetrable that I've given up on it after a few tries. It seems like it's got some neat ideas hiding in there, but I'm not sure they're worth the time and frustration.

If you're willing to put up with a product that makes the buggy release day versions of Paradox games look perfectly polished you might get some fun out of this, but it's hard to recommend if you have limited time/budget.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/7/2008 1:51:14 AM   
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If you're willing to put up with a product that makes the buggy release day versions of Paradox games look perfectly polished you might get some fun out of this, but it's hard to recommend if you have limited time/budget.


Sheesh-thanks for the encouragement. I've only had about an hour of play so far; I can say it is good for a history lesson at least.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/7/2008 1:37:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		My main complaint about Great Invasions wasn't the bugs or the lack of a tutorial or the interface. It was controlling 10 seemingly random nations scattered across the map that have nothing to do with each other. In real time. If that issue hasn't been dealt with (by grouping controlled nations more logically), then Great Invasions is still too complex for its own good.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/7/2008 3:55:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I actually found that to be part of the charm.  A lot of people want to control their countries in concert with each other but this game makes that rather hard to do which I liked.  The nations should be operated individually in each owns best interest!  The piece that took me awhile to get used to though were the raider nations which you don't really control but they still count towards your score.

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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/16/2008 11:26:55 PM   
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My main complaint about Great Invasions wasn't the bugs or the lack of a tutorial or the interface. It was controlling 10 seemingly random nations scattered across the map that have nothing to do with each other ...


I no longer have the game, but found I could delegate my countries to the AI, thus controlling only the countries I wanted to control.


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RE: What is this comparable to? - 8/17/2008 4:39:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		What are the various religions (and heresies) that the game includes and can the spread of these
religions be controlled? I'm referring to sending missionaries of your religion into
other countries and dealing with both foreign religions on your soil and containing
local religions that start in your borders or even adopting them as your state religion
if convenient. It would be interesting if the form of Mithraism which many Roman soldiers
adopted while serving on the Eastern frontiers and brought back west with them supplanted
Christianity as the official State Religion (It was actually one of the facets of
Sol Invictus until just before Alaric's sacking of Rome IIRC)

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