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RE: Some feedback - 8/6/2008 4:08:13 PM

Mickrocks201

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True - Iceland did totally severed ties with Denmark in May '41, but had been occupied by the Brits since May '40 and by US Marines in May '41. Whether or not the occupiers were "invited" or not really doesn't matter - it was too important to Britain's survival. Technically it should automatically revert to Allied control as soon as Denmark is invaded, or at least force Britain to spend a few dip points ( make Iceland start the game 15/95 pro-allied). Also it would have been nice to have Iceland be within 40 hexes of US so it could be used as a northern "air bridge" to move air units from US to Britain.

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RE: Some feedback - 8/6/2008 4:51:48 PM

haki10

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Iceland gained independence in 1918.

historically it remained neutral during WWII - even after the allied occupation - which was not by invitation

after the british invaded the:
"the government of Iceland issued a protest, charging that the neutrality of Iceland had been "flagrantly violated" and "its independence infringed"

So it should remain neutral in the game even if Denmark conquered by Germany. if the game is to be historical at all.

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RE: Some feedback - 8/6/2008 8:05:09 PM

winky51

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yea but simplicity either they should be 95% toward allied or neutral with no forces to be invaded.

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RE: Some feedback - 8/6/2008 9:17:15 PM

Rodwell

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I think this thread has degenerated, but the Iclandic government protests were for show only (i.e. for German ears). Iceland very much welcomed the UK and US).

Summary: please document as well as possible the creation of scenarios so that different people with different views can create their own scenarios.

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RE: Some feedback - 8/7/2008 11:48:28 AM

haki10

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rodwell

*Iceland was not an independent country, but part of Denmark. For WWII purposes, it can be part of the UK or the US if one prefers.

My point was (and still is) that this statement of Rodwell is wrong.

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RE: Some feedback - 8/7/2008 9:09:22 PM

Widell

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My recommendation is that Iceland and Greenland become Allied (if the US is at war with the Axis) or US (if US is still out of the war) once Denmark surrender to Germany. One can discuss if this event is a 100% event, or a 99% event... I know this is not a correct description of the actual historical event, but for the purpose of allowing the game to illustrate the strategic impact of the German occupation of Denmark and the subsequent impact of giving US and the Allies access to bases on Greenland and Iceland, it's good enough, and will also not create a lot of detailed management of Iceland as a minor state, and Greenland caught in "ownership limbo" when/if Denmark is occupied.

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