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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
Ask your opponant to back up his claims with some historical fact. Japanese Night Fighters and Flak weren't very effective at all during the war..., so if he's not accomplishing anything he's getting accurate results.
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl
It is not gamey because the USAAF did use low-altitude 4eBs in the SoPac theater. What you are doing is historically reasonable both by virtue of historical precedent and because it was one of several 'operational tools in the USAAF's kit. USAAF pilots trained at it well enough that all 4EB crews could conduct a night raid as a matter of course. It was, however, as others have noted already, not (one might say "not hardly") as accurate as daylight bombing.
I can provide some historical info if you like. About IRON RANGE AIRFIELD which is the airfield represented by Cooktown in the game.
Units based here:
43BG(H) B-17
64BS 12/10/42 - 08/11/42
65BS 13/10/42 - 7/11/42
403BS 15/9/42 - 22/10/42
90BG(H) B-24
319BS 13/11/42 - 2/2/43
320BS 13/11/42 - 21/1/43
321BG 19/11/42 - 10/2/43
400BS 13/11/42 - 22/3/43
(FYI, the 43BG was withdrawn to Cairns in Nov'42 and was then transferred to Port Moresby with the 90BG around Feb'43).
As can be seen, historically 100+ heavy bombers were operating out of the Cooktown/Cairns area and they were conducting night missions to Rabaul and elsewhere (see link above). An escalation on numbers to 200 bombers is above historical levels but is what I would call reasonable' if you want to have a bit of variation to the game and not be a total slave to history.
The only thing that perhaps is a bit 'gamey' is the effectiveness of these bombers.
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When the 90th Bomb Group arrived at Iron Range in November 1942, the two strips named Claudie and Gordon, were still unfinished and not sealed. Tents were pitched amongst the trees for accommodation. Conditions were primitive. Snakes, insects, scorpions, etc were prevalent. The men of the 90th Bomb Group described it as the worst airfield they were ever posted at during the war.
The picture below shows what the actual strip was like and may go explain why historical results fall short of what the game produces.
It was also a dangerous occupation as the following links attest:
16 NOVEMBER 1942 - CRASH OF A B-24 LIBERATOR and
26 DECEMBER 1942 - CRASH OF A B-24 LIBERATOR
(Note: Both were night missions...)
Personally I feel that the 4E combat effectiveness is reasonable. What I think is missing is the difficulty in maintaining the effectiveness of the 4E units under primitive conditions.
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Reg.
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