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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 5:06:59 PM

goodboyladdie

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ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

Start reading now, in a couple of days you won't be getting any sleep..............

Just remember to remind him Beatty was a jerk.....

He had his moments of brilliance. His aggressive spirit was excellent. It's a shame he did not seem to be the best communicator and failed to ensure that his staff compensated. A lot of things he gets blamed for were the fault of some genuinely stupid officers under him. The Dogger Bank fiasco is a good case. With loose orders and a follow me fighting style, he really needed to ensure his ships were Captained by people who had common sense and initiative. Not engaging Moltke and failing to spot your own shot despite corrections from Southampton was just criminal stupidity. Regardless of poorly signalled orders, giving up a chase to sink one crippled ship was just supreme idiocy. Keeping a poor Flag Lieutenant was poor judgement and some of his decisions at Jutland stank. He should have briefed the 5th Battle Squadron on how he wanted them to fight, but he was let down by Tiger's bad judgement in not signalling them at the start of the run to the South. The most unforgiveable thing in my view was the fact that he knew the gunnery of the Battle Cruiser Fleet was shocking but did not start to do anything about it until too late. Maybe it was this that made him hold his fire during the closing phase when he should have been taking advantage of the greater range of his 13.5s?

Jellicoe too suffered from poor subordinate Captains. If he had been told of the close encounters the ships at the rear of his line were having during the night he'd have been able to put two and two together and position himself in the right place at dawn.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 5:20:41 PM

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Sure enough feels like a Monday....

What the Martian said.

All Hail the Thread.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 6:28:09 PM

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Afternoon chaps.

Safely sat in the comfort of my parents' house right now. Although I'm surrounded by dogs, I've got my two with me, plus my parents have three more BCs

plus my two year old nephew is staying with them at the moment. There's also a pair of tortoises....

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 6:39:11 PM

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Afternoon chaps.

Safely sat in the comfort of my parents' house right now.� Although I'm surrounded by dogs, I've got my two with me, plus my parents have three more BCs �plus my two year old nephew is staying with them at the moment.� There's also a pair of tortoises....

Sounds like the home of a veterinarian.

We have 2 dogs and 4 cats, along with a hockey player in our home.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 8:28:35 PM

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Damn hurricane. My 4 day weekend turned into a 2.5 day weekend. Now I'm working nights too. I finally got adjusted (sort of). Going to take a nap before I head to work for the evening. We have about 1500 troops heading south. Gotta take care of them. Otherwise, I'd quit.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 8:28:53 PM

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I wouldn't really quit, but it sounded good.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 8:30:26 PM

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Afternoon chaps.

Safely sat in the comfort of my parents' house right now.� Although I'm surrounded by dogs, I've got my two with me, plus my parents have three more BCs �plus my two year old nephew is staying with them at the moment.� There's also a pair of tortoises....

Sounds like the home of a veterinarian. We have 2 dogs and 4 cats, along with a hockey player in our home.

We have 4 cats, a cockateel, turtle, former hockey player and very former wrestler. Oh yeah, 2 horses too but they don't live here.........yet.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 8:45:31 PM

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Afternoon chaps.

Safely sat in the comfort of my parents' house right now.� Although I'm surrounded by dogs, I've got my two with me, plus my parents have three more BCs �plus my two year old nephew is staying with them at the moment.� There's also a pair of tortoises....

Sounds like the home of a veterinarian. We have 2 dogs and 4 cats, along with a hockey player in our home.

We have 4 cats, a cockateel, turtle, former hockey player and very former wrestler. Oh yeah, 2 horses too but they don't live here.........yet.

When that former hockey player moves out, you should have room for the horses.

No dogs?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 8:53:59 PM

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Hockey player? Is that a species of penguin?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 8:55:42 PM

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Hockey player? Is that a species of penguin?

Oh, no! Hockey players are MUCH more expensive to support than penguins.

(Even penguins that drink expensive wines.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 10:22:51 PM

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I'll bet they still don't fly......

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 10:38:30 PM

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Hi all,

Zsssssss time...

Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 11:57:03 PM

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Start reading now, in a couple of days you won't be getting any sleep..............

Just remember to remind him Beatty was a jerk.....

He had his moments of brilliance. His aggressive spirit was excellent. It's a shame he did not seem to be the best communicator and failed to ensure that his staff compensated. A lot of things he gets blamed for were the fault of some genuinely stupid officers under him. The Dogger Bank fiasco is a good case. With loose orders and a follow me fighting style, he really needed to ensure his ships were Captained by people who had common sense and initiative. Not engaging Moltke and failing to spot your own shot despite corrections from Southampton was just criminal stupidity. Regardless of poorly signalled orders, giving up a chase to sink one crippled ship was just supreme idiocy. Keeping a poor Flag Lieutenant was poor judgement and some of his decisions at Jutland stank. He should have briefed the 5th Battle Squadron on how he wanted them to fight, but he was let down by Tiger's bad judgement in not signalling them at the start of the run to the South. The most unforgiveable thing in my view was the fact that he knew the gunnery of the Battle Cruiser Fleet was shocking but did not start to do anything about it until too late. Maybe it was this that made him hold his fire during the closing phase when he should have been taking advantage of the greater range of his 13.5s?

Jellicoe too suffered from poor subordinate Captains. If he had been told of the close encounters the ships at the rear of his line were having during the night he'd have been able to put two and two together and position himself in the right place at dawn.

Some truly mediocre people can rise to positions of authority in all societies in all walks of life.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/2/2008 11:57:38 PM

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Hi Mynok. Played any CA lately?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:07:11 AM

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Hmmmm. I seem to be all alone.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:07:49 AM

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Hello

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:08:09 AM

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Hello

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:08:28 AM

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Hello

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:08:46 AM

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Hello

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:09:05 AM

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Hello

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:09:44 AM

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Hello

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:10:02 AM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:10:34 AM

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Well what do you know

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:11:24 AM

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Very interesting...................

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:12:51 AM

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Damn hurricane.� My 4 day weekend turned into a 2.5 day weekend.� Now I'm working nights too.� I finally got adjusted (sort of).� Going to take a nap before I head to work for the evening.� We have about 1500 troops heading south.� Gotta take care of them.� Otherwise, I'd quit.

By nights to you mean 16:00 to 00:00 or some thing like 20:00 to 08:00?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:13:42 AM

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Onime hasn't been around lately either.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:14:25 AM

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Ok enough goofing around. I need to go check the pressure in my car tires

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:24:55 AM

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Onime hasn't been around lately either.

But Marky showed up earlier today...

Good Thread, here I was just hoping he'd never show his face again...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:28:54 AM

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Does amniotic fluid leave a stain if it gets on a car seat? The bloody consultant did a membrane sweep earlier (pointless) and we now have a pre labour membrane rupture to deal with!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 9/3/2008 12:45:50 AM

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But Marky showed up earlier today... Good Thread, here I was just hoping he'd never show his face again...

While it is always impolite to wish a man to the devil, it is always polite to hope for the best.

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