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What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 4:57:08 AM   
Hawspipe


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Status: offline 		Say I want to take a FT into a port to refuel and the base says it has 1500 fuel. What dose that mean??? 1500 gal. 1500
tons, 1500 barrels? Is that enough fuel to replenish a small TF or would I suck um dry and still not have enough?
Hey you guys are great thanks for answering all my questions.




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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 5:35:39 AM   
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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 6:08:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay. How much is a unit?

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 7:13:39 AM   
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After playing for a while and after repeated refuelings you sort of get a feel for it.

Big ships take more and little ships take less.

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 7:34:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		And 1500 fuel units can easily be sucked dry by a medium sized convoy. The larger the ship the more fuel units it needs, so a cTF of DDs will need substantially less than a Tf with CAs or BBs. 1500 fuel is generally what I might accept for a forward base to keep its PTs operational, but I make damned sure that all resupply or reinforcement TFs coming to that base have the toggle for refueling set to "off" so that those ships won't deplete that port's fuel. 

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 7:56:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is the number not linked to tons? eg in CHS AO Sunosaki is listed as capacity 5000, which just happens to also be the amount of fuel in tons she could carry as 'cargo'. Other ships seem to also be similar in being linked by capacity to historical grt. Or is that just me seeing coincidence and there's a bizarre calculation involved in order to figure out game capacity in units? 

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 9:25:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe it is tons, who knows for sure

Anyway I just took a look in the editor at the stock fuel loads for typical US ships (I don't have CHS installed) and below are very rough averages:

DD - 300-600
CL - 2000
CA - 2000
BB - 4700-7000
CV - 4000-6000
DE - 200-300
S.AK - 1000
L.AK - 1500
S.AP - 1000
M.AP - 1500
L.AP - 4500
TK - 750
MSW/PG - 150-200

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 2:43:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

Maybe it is tons, who knows for sure

Anyway I just took a look in the editor at the stock fuel loads for typical US ships (I don't have CHS installed) and below are very rough averages:

DD - 300-600
CL - 2000
CA - 2000
BB - 4700-7000
CV - 4000-6000
DE - 200-300
S.AK - 1000
L.AK - 1500
S.AP - 1000
M.AP - 1500
L.AP - 4500
TK - 750
MSW/PG - 150-200



I can see that I am in trouble . I also have a carrier FT running low, some AO's on the way but they are a long ways out.


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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 2:49:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Erm, it doesn't actually matter, does it? A unit is a unit is a unit.

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 2:52:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know but I kinda like tons, it make me feel like I'm getting more for my buck.

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 2:54:52 PM   
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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 3:41:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Here's a secret: It IS tons... Shhhh...


But what kind of tons?

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 4:00:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

Maybe it is tons, who knows for sure

Anyway I just took a look in the editor at the stock fuel loads for typical US ships (I don't have CHS installed) and below are very rough averages:

DD - 300-600
CL - 2000
CA - 2000
BB - 4700-7000
CV - 4000-6000
DE - 200-300
S.AK - 1000
L.AK - 1500
S.AP - 1000
M.AP - 1500
L.AP - 4500
TK - 750
MSW/PG - 150-200



I took these figures and started looking at all my ships at sea and there are a hell of a lot of them running out of gas.
Looks like I am going to be dead in the water in more ways then one. I only hope the Japs are having as much trouble with supply line as I am.

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 5:01:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hawspipe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

Maybe it is tons, who knows for sure

Anyway I just took a look in the editor at the stock fuel loads for typical US ships (I don't have CHS installed) and below are very rough averages:

DD - 300-600
CL - 2000
CA - 2000
BB - 4700-7000
CV - 4000-6000
DE - 200-300
S.AK - 1000
L.AK - 1500
S.AP - 1000
M.AP - 1500
L.AP - 4500
TK - 750
MSW/PG - 150-200



I took these figures and started looking at all my ships at sea and there are a hell of a lot of them running out of gas.
Looks like I am going to be dead in the water in more ways then one. I only hope the Japs are having as much trouble with supply line as I am.


Don't worry, as Japan it tends to be worse.

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 5:10:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hawspipe
I only hope the Japs are having as much trouble with supply line as I am.


Probably more....

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 6:38:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Here's a secret: It IS tons... Shhhh...




More seriously, how are the numbers for ships figured out if the real ship used tons and the game world uses units?

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 6:51:04 PM   
Terminus


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I wasn't kidding...

Shhh...

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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/25/2008 11:29:47 PM   
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RE: What do the numbers mean - 9/27/2008 12:52:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are those short tons? Long tons? Metric tons? I have tons of questions about this unit.

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