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British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 5:41:01 PM   
Hawspipe


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Status: offline 		I don't really have a question I guess Iam just bitching. This is my first game, I am a newbie but decided to take on the big one from day one or should I say the 7th.
Anyway I know history says the Prince of Wales and Repulse got deep sixed in the first few days of the war. So I pulled out and brought them down to PM. and used the in my invasion of Rubal. Then the Brits asked for the withdrawal of 1 CL & 2 DD worth 500 PP. I pulled them out of the TF and sent them on their way to Karachi but then AI takes control of the whole TF and routes them right across the Pacific right through Indain country. I tried ro reroute them south out of danger but at the end of every turn they would be right back on straight arrow for SF.
When the TF left for SF the were almost out of fuel. I got tired of trying to help them get fuel and safe passage I fegured if the Brits want them so bad to hell with it, (How can ships out of fuel keep moving towards thier DH????????) They must of been rowing pertty hard when the Japs sank them all but a sixpack of DD's..... On Feb 1 I got charged a ****pot full of PP, I'm not sure who much I had in the war chest but I know they grabbed over 2 grand worth when the bill was 500 PP for 1 CL & 2DD's. Plus now that I paid for the ships I get to keep them but because of the computer they are all at the bottom of Davy Joanes locker. I feel like I have been screwed twice and never got a kiss.
Hey guys thanks for listing


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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 5:43:48 PM   
Barb


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Status: offline 		I think the TF has set San francisco as homeport.

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 5:49:30 PM   
Hawspipe


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Status: offline 		I know it dose but I could not change it or even reroute it a different way

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 5:53:55 PM   
Barb


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Status: offline 		Do you have some area under AI control? SEA? 

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 5:56:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I learned the hard way that the PP cost listed for DD's if you don't withdraw them is for EACH DD.  I thought it would be 300 PP to keep the 2 DD's last month, but it was 600.

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 6:05:22 PM   
Hawspipe


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Status: offline 		I think I got charged for the ones that got sunk too

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 6:06:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		The game doesn't care if you have the ships, or if they were sunk.  If you give Churchill the ships requested, you don't pay the PP.  If you don't give Churchill his toys, you pay, no matter the reason why not.

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 6:09:37 PM   
Barb


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Status: offline 		You need to have have ships disbanded in Karachi (or SF). Then you will see a Withdraw button. You have to withdraw them personally.
As to why your ships tried to go to SF from indian ocian, I think AI got in charge of the TF - Computer control or not enough fuel to reach the destination. AI then try to return to homeport (SF).


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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 8:48:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't relize they were being withdrawen intil about half way through Jan. so hey wouldn't of had time to arrive at any home port. But the computer only  asked for 1 CL & 2 DD's then took over the whole FT after I had pulled out the CL's & DD's then I had two TF's heading for S. I deffently gave the small TF Karachie's address and home port.
Well I hope Churchill happy. 

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/3/2008 8:53:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		The computer routing the TF to SE Asia has nothing to do with the need to withdraw ships.

I suspect that you have SE Asia under computer control. If so, the computer thinks that the TF is it's responsibility and has some great need for the ships in SF.

If you don't have SE Asia under computer control, I would bet that some region is controled by the computer. If you have any regoin under computer control, expect it to take over individual TFs at any given moment and send then to some base that the route will be through the heart of enemy controled areas.

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/4/2008 12:53:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

The computer routing the TF to SE Asia has nothing to do with the need to withdraw ships.

I suspect that you have SE Asia under computer control. If so, the computer thinks that the TF is it's responsibility and has some great need for the ships in SF.

If you don't have SE Asia under computer control, I would bet that some region is controled by the computer. If you have any regoin under computer control, expect it to take over individual TFs at any given moment and send then to some base that the route will be through the heart of enemy controled areas.


You hit it right on the head. SE, S & E was under my control but I pulled them out of Singapore and that I had under computer control so originally they belonged to the computer and it just took them back.

I want to thank all of you for your comments they are great and it really helps us just starting out. I hope someday I will be able to spout wisdom too.

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/4/2008 2:21:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hawspipe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

The computer routing the TF to SE Asia has nothing to do with the need to withdraw ships.

I suspect that you have SE Asia under computer control. If so, the computer thinks that the TF is it's responsibility and has some great need for the ships in SF.

If you don't have SE Asia under computer control, I would bet that some region is controled by the computer. If you have any regoin under computer control, expect it to take over individual TFs at any given moment and send then to some base that the route will be through the heart of enemy controled areas.


You hit it right on the head. SE, S & E was under my control but I pulled them out of Singapore and that I had under computer control so originally they belonged to the computer and it just took them back.

I want to thank all of you for your comments they are great and it really helps us just starting out. I hope someday I will be able to spout wisdom too.


Just proves that in every can of Spam, there is a nugget of real meat.

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/6/2008 2:43:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: USS America


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hawspipe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

The computer routing the TF to SE Asia has nothing to do with the need to withdraw ships.

I suspect that you have SE Asia under computer control. If so, the computer thinks that the TF is it's responsibility and has some great need for the ships in SF.

If you don't have SE Asia under computer control, I would bet that some region is controled by the computer. If you have any regoin under computer control, expect it to take over individual TFs at any given moment and send then to some base that the route will be through the heart of enemy controled areas.


You hit it right on the head. SE, S & E was under my control but I pulled them out of Singapore and that I had under computer control so originally they belonged to the computer and it just took them back.

I want to thank all of you for your comments they are great and it really helps us just starting out. I hope someday I will be able to spout wisdom too.


Just proves that in every can of Spam, there is a nugget of real meat.


Are you saying my posts are usually spam????


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RE: British Withdraw - 10/6/2008 3:07:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Charbroiled


quote:

ORIGINAL: USS America


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hawspipe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

The computer routing the TF to SE Asia has nothing to do with the need to withdraw ships.

I suspect that you have SE Asia under computer control. If so, the computer thinks that the TF is it's responsibility and has some great need for the ships in SF.

If you don't have SE Asia under computer control, I would bet that some region is controled by the computer. If you have any regoin under computer control, expect it to take over individual TFs at any given moment and send then to some base that the route will be through the heart of enemy controled areas.


You hit it right on the head. SE, S & E was under my control but I pulled them out of Singapore and that I had under computer control so originally they belonged to the computer and it just took them back.

I want to thank all of you for your comments they are great and it really helps us just starting out. I hope someday I will be able to spout wisdom too.


Just proves that in every can of Spam, there is a nugget of real meat.


Are you saying my posts are usually spam????



Not at all, my friend. Take a look at my post count, where 90% of them were probably not "wisdom."

Your post was the nugget of real meat.

Edit: BTW, my current post count does not include 2800 - 3000 posts that have been lost in forum "updates."

< Message edited by USS America -- 10/6/2008 3:08:10 PM >

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/6/2008 5:07:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		 Don't belive him! Mike is saying you SPAM , just as he called me stupid on the Thread! He obviously got up on the wrong side of bed this morning , and his taking it out on the poor forumites!

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RE: British Withdraw - 10/6/2008 5:56:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

 Don't belive him! Mike is saying you SPAM , just as he called me stupid on the Thread! He obviously got up on the wrong side of bed this morning , and his taking it out on the poor forumites!




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