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Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 3:10:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just wanted to check back in after a sabatical of creating units for Civ III Has there been any more mention anywhere of when AE might be released? No rush. Just curious if I've missed the latest news somewhere.

It's been said a million times but thanks again to all the people who've been continuously involved in the project! It really deserves to be said a million times!

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 3:27:08 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 3:31:45 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 6:50:41 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 7:38:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

Just wanted to check back in after a sabatical of creating units for Civ III Has there been any more mention anywhere of when AE might be released? No rush. Just curious if I've missed the latest news somewhere.

It's been said a million times but thanks again to all the people who've been continuously involved in the project! It really deserves to be said a million times!


release it?.......ya mean as in "Holy crap we can buy it now".....HEY GUYS it might be real....not just some strange Matrix scheme to keep us on the edge, so to speak.
Naw...your just kidding....right? How cruel....I got my hopes up and everything!

Madgamer

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 8:16:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
Just wanted to check back in after a sabatical of creating units for Civ III Has there been any more mention anywhere of when AE might be released?

No.
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No rush. Just curious if I've missed the latest news somewhere.

Nope.
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It's been said a million times but thanks again to all the people who've been continuously involved in the project! It really deserves to be said a million times!

terminus says you're very welcome.

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 8:23:09 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 8:28:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm pacing around like a caged lion waiting for this thing- better release it soon while we still have a currency to buy it with! Just kidding, take you're time. I like the it's finished when it's finished policy :)

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 8:36:26 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 11:16:43 PM   
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It would be nice to stop checking these boards every five minutes...it's amazing that I get anything done.



Don't check every five minutes..If you miss the release, you might be early for the 1st patch..It will be here..It won't go anywhere......

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/6/2008 11:21:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seriously folks, the USA (and the world) is now in a bad recession; or worse.  And it looks to be getting worse.  Just how much impact will the current global economic situation have on Matrix's ability to finish/produce the game and how many people will be able actually buy the game.  I've been in the Architectural business for over thirty-two years and I have never seen things this bad.  And I don't mean housing.  My cliental consists of muncipal, health care, educational, finanacial, and medium to heavy commercial/industrial entities.  All multi-million dollar projects.  My work is off by over 60% from this time last year.  One of my best clients is Wells Fargo Bank.  We were in the planning stages of over a dozen major projects in California by the close of '07.  That has now been reduced to just three of the smaller projects.  The story is the same here in Oregon.  Architectural and Engineering firms are laying people off because clients are cancelling projects left and right.

All that I'm trying to say is that Matrix may not be able to release this game (or any others) for reasons beyond their control.  Even if they do release it, some may decide to spend that $39 on other things.  When you find yourself making 60% less this year from last, trying to keep your wife in nursing school, pay for your own health care insurance, etc., some sacrifices will need to be made.  Fortunately I have no employees to lay off.  Of course if things don't improve, I may be laying myself off.  Right now in Oregon and California you can't buy a drafting job.

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but business is business.  Just my two cents worth.

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 1:23:13 AM   
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I come here to escape from it a little.

Anyway, we're digressing from somehting, can't remember what this thread was about...

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 2:05:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I believe this thread was about how much our spouses love us and can't wait for AE to come out!

Personally mine has no idea its coming

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 2:12:24 AM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 12:24:19 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 12:46:52 PM   
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The great game "Monopoly" was born during the depression as a means to entertain the family.


So you planning on teaching "The Wife" to play AE? Let me know how that turns out

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 1:35:48 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/7/2008 6:32:06 PM   
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The great game "Monopoly" was born during the depression as a means to entertain the family.


So you planning on teaching "The Wife" to play AE? Let me know how that turns out


Instead of "utilities" being free...I just need to make a deal that my carriers get to "pass the Solomons" without penalty....

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 12:40:00 AM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 12:50:47 AM   
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Wow. Did I ask the wrong question or something?


Is that a rhetorical question or do you really want an answer?

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 2:21:22 AM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 10:00:25 AM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 4:51:59 PM   
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The great game "Monopoly" was born during the depression as a means to entertain the family.


So you planning on teaching "The Wife" to play AE? Let me know how that turns out


Instead of "utilities" being free...I just need to make a deal that my carriers get to "pass the Solomons" without penalty....


Is that the version of the game where, every time you end a move on Torpedo Alley, you get to collect 1d6 new holes below the waterline?

"Go to the bottom of the ocean. Go there directly. Do not pass Pearl Harbour. Do not collect 50 replacement planes."

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 5:03:51 PM   
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The great game "Monopoly" was born during the depression as a means to entertain the family.


So you planning on teaching "The Wife" to play AE? Let me know how that turns out


Instead of "utilities" being free...I just need to make a deal that my carriers get to "pass the Solomons" without penalty....


Is that the version of the game where, every time you end a move on Torpedo Alley, you get to collect 1d6 new holes below the waterline?

"Go to the bottom of the ocean. Go there directly. Do not pass Pearl Harbour. Do not collect 50 replacement planes."


Play the game with both sides sub ops set to 'OFF'. That pretty much moves it up to 2d6 new holes below the waterline...wether you are in torpedo alley or not.


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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 6:18:31 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/9/2008 7:10:27 PM   
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You guys have PLAYED IT!!!!!!!!


Not AE of course. Though I'm sure it works the same....

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/10/2008 5:00:47 AM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/10/2008 12:04:16 PM   
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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/11/2008 5:33:32 AM   
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All that I'm trying to say is that Matrix may not be able to release this game (or any others) for reasons beyond their control.  Even if they do release it, some may decide to spend that $39 on other things.  When you find yourself making 60% less this year from last, trying to keep your wife in nursing school, pay for your own health care insurance, etc., some sacrifices will need to be made.  Fortunately I have no employees to lay off.  Of course if things don't improve, I may be laying myself off.  Right now in Oregon and California you can't buy a drafting job.

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but business is business.  Just my two cents worth.


Your points are valid, but I disagree.

AE is an extension for WitP. I guess that nearly every potential customer for AE has already purchased WitP.
Either WitP is too much micromanagement (= no interest to buy AE) or he is WitP-addicted (like me), then he will buy AE no matter what.

We are not speaking about having fun for a weekend. Or a week. Or 100 hours of gameplay. We are (in the long run) speaking about a four-digit-number of hours of gameplay over the coming years.

Even at $100, the entertainment cost would be less then $.10/hour. So, I fail to see that the current situation will prevent many people from purchasing AE.

Best regards and I hope that you will prevail in this situation,
Roland

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RE: Dad, are we there yet? Are we there yet? - 10/11/2008 3:47:59 PM   
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All that I'm trying to say is that Matrix may not be able to release this game (or any others) for reasons beyond their control.  Even if they do release it, some may decide to spend that $39 on other things.  When you find yourself making 60% less this year from last, trying to keep your wife in nursing school, pay for your own health care insurance, etc., some sacrifices will need to be made.  Fortunately I have no employees to lay off.  Of course if things don't improve, I may be laying myself off.  Right now in Oregon and California you can't buy a drafting job.

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but business is business.  Just my two cents worth.


Your points are valid, but I disagree.

AE is an extension for WitP. I guess that nearly every potential customer for AE has already purchased WitP.
Either WitP is too much micromanagement (= no interest to buy AE) or he is WitP-addicted (like me), then he will buy AE no matter what.

We are not speaking about having fun for a weekend. Or a week. Or 100 hours of gameplay. We are (in the long run) speaking about a four-digit-number of hours of gameplay over the coming years.

Even at $100, the entertainment cost would be less then $.10/hour. So, I fail to see that the current situation will prevent many people from purchasing AE.

Best regards and I hope that you will prevail in this situation,
Roland


This is not so much $0.10 per hour, this is an up-front cost of $40 or whatever, followed by essentially free entertainment. But this up-front cost is the point. As they say, it takes money to make money - or rather, here it takes money to have fun, and this money might be hard to come by. Plus people might have to work harder and longer to make ends meet, and may no longer be quite as willing and able to commit their time and mental effort to WitP/AE.

That said, I am awaiting AE just as eagerly as you are.

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