Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: harley

wow a first-time poster demanding response... There's something you don't see every day. 

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ORIGINAL: harley

I'm sorry you feel that way. I won't make any exuses for my post, but if you read your own post objectively, you'll see why I drew the conclusion of "demand".

I apologise for tweaking you, I shouldn't have done that, though you should see it from my perspective. For all I knew, you were E5 posting under a new login. Your grammar is far better, I should have realised that.

I'll take "arrogant attitude" under advisement - I do not suffer fools gladly (or any other way) so I know I do come across that way at times. I thought I had it in check here. One hopes you weren't referring to one explicitly...

Please also remember Ron, Waynn and I are NOT Matrix. We don't speak for Matrix, and nothing we say should be construed as Matrix policy (unless explicitly stated otherwise).

this has been an unpaid apology on behalf of the harley was tired party.

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ORIGINAL: Time Traveller
You guys keep up these attitudes towards regular and potential customers who are asking very reasonable questions and you will have no customers left at all, even if this game is ever released. And congratulations, you've just lost another long-time customer. I will not be purchasing any more Matrix games.

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

TT

"The very secretive 'it's ready when it's ready' is just getting a little bit old after this long."

this is the area that I do not understand or follow

how am I being secretive when I say I can't tell you when, when I don't know when myself ?

we just released a major beta verison, that should be a big deal, the next one, should close down a major exploit in the game system, that has been there from day one, besides added some things that the game needs, from the player and AI sides

the release after that one, should hopefully nail a old bug that was a game killer, we finally locked it up and hope to be able to figured out what and why it is happening, in the old game it was very rare, but could happen, it is still there and it is still rare (unless it happens)

when I get the go ahead to say something, I will say it (really, you won't be able to shut me up)

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

just in case, I have about 7 Matrix folders, one is for my games, some are for files and S numbers and stuff like that, this is my master Beta folder, were all of my beta info is stored, it is kept on a outside HD, just in case something screwy happens to my computer

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Please realize that the guys working on Eagle Day are "volunteers" that have devoted a lot of time and energy to the project with (as far as I know), no payments other than the hope someday of getting the game out and making a few dollars from royalties on sales (which if you factor the hours put in would surely be slave wages). These are people that enjoyed the original game and wanted to make it better. They have real world lives that get in the way of the work. I don't think they've ever tried to make people think the game is closer than it is. As Ron says, he doesn't even know himself when it's going to be finished, which is partially due to the fact that he doesn't control the resources that are on the project and can't say when someone will have the real world intrude on the project's progress. You can take exception with the way that this project is being done, but really it's the only way that it could get done. Gary and Keith put a few hours in to help out a few times over the past couple of years, but were not and are not now in a position to do much more than that minor help. It's really been up to these guys and they've done the best they can with the time they've had to work on it. As BoB/BTR were the two Gary Grigsby games that I never were involved with, I can't say much about the state of the project. However, Gary has looked at what's been done and thinks it's looking pretty good. You never know what's going to happen in the future, but the odds seem good that the game will be finished. I know Matrix very much wants to get the game out. Good luck to Harley and Ron and hopefully a year from now you'll be looking back and saying, "I'm sure glad those guys stuck with it because I love this game".

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ORIGINAL: Time Traveller

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

TT

"The very secretive 'it's ready when it's ready' is just getting a little bit old after this long."

this is the area that I do not understand or follow

how am I being secretive when I say I can't tell you when, when I don't know when myself ?

we just released a major beta verison, that should be a big deal, the next one, should close down a major exploit in the game system, that has been there from day one, besides added some things that the game needs, from the player and AI sides

the release after that one, should hopefully nail a old bug that was a game killer, we finally locked it up and hope to be able to figured out what and why it is happening, in the old game it was very rare, but could happen, it is still there and it is still rare (unless it happens)

when I get the go ahead to say something, I will say it (really, you won't be able to shut me up)

A few Playtesters Wanted for late Beta stage testing of Gary Grisby’s Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich

posted 4/15/08

link

This 'late' beta announcement was posted in April. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask this question- what happened? Seriously. Whoever is doing the programming on this game, why can't they just be honest and tell us what the heck is going on after this long? It is now almost November and it appears the game is nowhere close to being finished. And it sounds like you have even more beta releases lined up. I think we are being kept in the dark about the release date of this game because no one even knows if or when this title will be released. Regardless of what you or anyone else on this board says, experience and common sense tells me that the snail's pace development of this game is almost guaranteeing it won't be released. I honestly hope I'm wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

Not ever having been involved in Beta testing and thus knowing nothing pertinent, I am curious, whether this 7 month Beta testing period (with further testing time still required)
is more, normal or less than one would expect?

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
and not sure what can be said, but I know at least one of there games coming up is good and detailed and large, and, it has nothing to do with the pacific