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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 2:58:13 PM   
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Since my original post, you've seen the release of Commander: Napoleon at War, Close Combat: Wacht am Rhein and World War One: La Grande Guerre.

We were hoping War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition and Crown of Glory: Emperor's Edition would also make it in time for Christmas to put a big finish on the year, but they're still in final testing and polishing, so I'm afraid those will be 1Q 2009 releases at this point.
Our next pre-Christmas release is Hired Guns, which is a great turn-based tactical combat game in the spirit of Jagged Alliance.

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/364/details/Hired.Guns:.The.Jagged.Edge.

We're also finalizing our big Christmas sale plans, so check back before Thanksgiving for news on that.

Regards,

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 3:02:00 PM   
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at this point.



This doesnt mean that it WILL be Q1 09 either, so in April dont come back whining that "Erik said" either

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 3:04:42 PM   
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youre twisting and turning like a.....

a......

twisty turny thingy!!!

could it also be seen as 'but we're only teasing - it may be before then?'










like 7 dec 2008

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 3:11:02 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 3:40:08 PM   
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its here, now quit your moaning and say sorry to terminus:-



I just can't do it. As Erik only implied that the 1st quarter of 2009 is the current goal.

I guess if it comes out in the Jan-March-2009 timeframe I could buy Terminus another bottle of a HAPPY beverage...

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 5:42:48 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 9:45:44 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 9:49:35 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 9:52:45 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/2/2008 11:13:49 PM   
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I always have wondered if a company comes out with a game they see as a surefire hit and start diligent work on an update but the game does not go gold.......LOL does the world come to an end?

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 1:45:39 AM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 4:46:35 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 4:56:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Erm, you guys have seen Erik's post, right? The one confirming that it'll be a Q1 09 release?


Is this what you are refering too?

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The upcoming War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition. That will require WITP to play however, so I'd say WITP now in preparation for that release, which won't be too much longer.



Becuase he says nothing about Q1. Only that it wont be much longer. Hard to quantify what that really means.

Chad


That's not the post. I saw it as well. Lemme see if I can find it.

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 4:57:15 PM   
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its here, now quit your moaning and say sorry to terminus:-

Since my original post, you've seen the release of Commander: Napoleon at War, Close Combat: Wacht am Rhein and World War One: La Grande Guerre.

We were hoping War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition and Crown of Glory: Emperor's Edition would also make it in time for Christmas to put a big finish on the year, but they're still in final testing and polishing, so I'm afraid those will be 1Q 2009 releases at this point.
Our next pre-Christmas release is Hired Guns, which is a great turn-based tactical combat game in the spirit of Jagged Alliance.

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/364/details/Hired.Guns:.The.Jagged.Edge.

We're also finalizing our big Christmas sale plans, so check back before Thanksgiving for news on that.

Regards,

- Erik




There it is!

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 5:29:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is also this post from Erik Rutins on December 1st.
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1967823

The upcoming War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition. That will require WITP to play however, so I'd say WITP now in preparation for that release, which won't be too much longer.
 
If I understand well AE is finished and a patch for WITP is in preparation to make both games compatible.
The question is when ?



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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 5:38:47 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 6:20:52 PM   
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You do not understand.

Why can't we just BBQ Terminus and by the time we are done WITP-AE will be released?

This sounds like a solid plan.



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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 6:57:37 PM   
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You do not understand.


And what is your interpretation ?

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 7:08:08 PM   
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There is also this post from Erik Rutins on December 1st.
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1967823

The upcoming War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition. That will require WITP to play however, so I'd say WITP now in preparation for that release, which won't be too much longer.
 
If I understand well AE is finished and a patch for WITP is in preparation to make both games compatible.
The question is when ?





1.807 has been in existance for over a year. My version has a date of 6/30/07. It was planned to release around labor day last year, but Joes real life and this "minor distraction" of AE has stopped work on it. It is planned to resume work on it if/when AE is released. One thing it corrects is kamikazies crashing into bases. I wouldnt be surprised if 1.807 was released around the time AE is because of the time required from the time AE goes "gold" until the actual release. And absolutely no way will WitP and AE ever be compatible.

Only real question is if Joe is going to work on that or on patch 1 of AE (we have a fair number of things scheduled for that as well). Or possibly go screaming into the night and do neither

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 7:39:08 PM   
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You do not understand.


And what is your interpretation ?


What Yamato Hugger said: there is no question of WitP and AE being compatible. We're finishing the product and not working on patches.

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 7:58:45 PM   
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There is also this post from Erik Rutins on December 1st.
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1967823

The upcoming War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition. That will require WITP to play however, so I'd say WITP now in preparation for that release, which won't be too much longer.
 
If I understand well AE is finished and a patch for WITP is in preparation to make both games compatible.
The question is when ?





It is planned to resume work on it if/when AE is released.



dont make me come over there and kick your ass!!!!

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 8:13:23 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 8:17:19 PM   
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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 9:01:05 PM   
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Remember that December 7th was a surprise attack.

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 9:40:19 PM   
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What Yamato Hugger said: there is no question of WitP and AE being compatible. We're finishing the product and not working on patches.


A kind of compatibility is probably needed if WITP is requested to play AE ?

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 9:42:27 PM   
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What Yamato Hugger said: there is no question of WitP and AE being compatible. We're finishing the product and not working on patches.


A kind of compatibility is probably needed if WITP is requested to play AE ?



"Compatibility" means some sort of way you can use one to play the other. This is not the case.

AE checks for the presence of a WitP install on the computer. That's it.

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 9:48:23 PM   
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i know, i know - its out on Sunday, im just teasing


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Information or misinformation about a Q1 or later release? Hmmm?

Remember that December 7th was a surprise attack.


I'll take the "over" on this for $100

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 9:50:59 PM   
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AE checks for the presence of a WitP install on the computer. That's it.


OK Thanks for this clarification.

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/3/2008 10:03:19 PM   
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We're finishing the product and not working on patches.



. . . to be completed?

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RE: December 7th Looms!!? - 12/4/2008 3:32:01 AM   
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Or possibly go screaming into the night and do neither


That sounds like a wonderful option!!!


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