Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Coach Z

Is there a modifier on the defender when he is attacked....
A] solely by paratroopers?
B] by Paratroopers and an amphibious (or cross river) attack?
c] by Paratroopers and other enemy units already in the hex with the defender?

I can see that PAratroopers themselves suffer heavy disruption after they are dropped, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about a modifier somewhere, but can't find it in past threads.
Help very curious.....

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an automatic bombardment attack by the defender which cuts its AV in half in effect.

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ORIGINAL: Feinder

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an automatic bombardment attack by the defender which cuts its AV in half in effect.

That's interesting.  How so and/or why would the defender bombarding enemy units (esp those landing on their beach), halve the defender's AV?

If that's the way it is, then so be-it.  But it sure sounds odd (wouldn't be a first for WitP).

-F-

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

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ORIGINAL: Coach Z

Is there a modifier on the defender when he is attacked....
A] solely by paratroopers?
B] by Paratroopers and an amphibious (or cross river) attack?
c] by Paratroopers and other enemy units already in the hex with the defender?

I can see that PAratroopers themselves suffer heavy disruption after they are dropped, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about a modifier somewhere, but can't find it in past threads.
Help very curious.....

An amphib assault, cross river attack, or paradrop triggers an automatic bombardment attack by the defender which cuts its AV in half in effect.

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

Pretty sure its in the rules, look it up. Cant find mine right now - the wife "cleaned". Will take me years to find my stuff.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

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ORIGINAL: Coach Z

Is there a modifier on the defender when he is attacked....
A] solely by paratroopers?
B] by Paratroopers and an amphibious (or cross river) attack?
c] by Paratroopers and other enemy units already in the hex with the defender?

I can see that PAratroopers themselves suffer heavy disruption after they are dropped, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about a modifier somewhere, but can't find it in past threads.
Help very curious.....

An amphib assault, cross river attack, or paradrop triggers an automatic bombardment attack by the defender which cuts its AV in half in effect.

never experienced that in my games...

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ORIGINAL: OldGuard1970

Thanks for the info about the shock attack... which should apply no matter what triggered the shock attack.

I seem to recall that a defeniding unit is less effective if it is set to bombard.  Of course, it also gets to hurt the attacker, so that might offset whaterever disadvantage there might be.

Does a defending unit suffer an adverse effect for being set to "bombard" rather than being set to "defend"?  (Again, I assume the effect of being set to "bombard" will apply if the command to bombard was set by the player or triggered by a game action.)

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ORIGINAL: OldGuard1970

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

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ORIGINAL: Coach Z

Is there a modifier on the defender when he is attacked....
A] solely by paratroopers?
B] by Paratroopers and an amphibious (or cross river) attack?
c] by Paratroopers and other enemy units already in the hex with the defender?

I can see that PAratroopers themselves suffer heavy disruption after they are dropped, but I vaguely remember someone saying something about a modifier somewhere, but can't find it in past threads.
Help very curious.....

An amphib assault, cross river attack, or paradrop triggers an automatic bombardment attack by the defender which cuts its AV in half in effect.

never experienced that in my games...

Hello Castor Troy - I always see it in Stock.

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: OldGuard1970

Thanks for the info about the shock attack... which should apply no matter what triggered the shock attack.

I seem to recall that a defeniding unit is less effective if it is set to bombard.  Of course, it also gets to hurt the attacker, so that might offset whaterever disadvantage there might be.

Does a defending unit suffer an adverse effect for being set to "bombard" rather than being set to "defend"?  (Again, I assume the effect of being set to "bombard" will apply if the command to bombard was set by the player or triggered by a game action.)

iirc, this is the first i've heard of such an effect... not saying it doesn't occur, but...

Actually, the game manual states that the "defensive fire is doubled against shock attacks." This is usually thought to mean there are "double bombardment" effects, but i am not actually sure how the game mechanics work on this.

Since there is ALWAYS defensive fire in an attack (whether or not you have ordered a bombardment) it is hard to see how this would effect the defender's AV... watching the numbers in animation carefully in shock attacks, it appears to me that the attacker's AV is approximately doubled, but the defenders AV is about the same.

However, if someone can demonstate this is incorrect, it would be good to know.

EDIT: PS - using the search function for every instance of "bombardment" - i could find no reference to the defender's AV being reduced by ordering a bombardment.