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RE: Tidbit - 1/5/2009 7:20:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

Jap commander: EEK!
PT Skipper: EEK!



Nope...
Jap Commander: EEK!
PT Skipper: Bring me my brown pants....

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RE: Tidbit - 1/5/2009 8:24:47 PM   
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Well....the Jap warships stayed with the troopships to defend them. For all they knew, the PT might have been a "draw".


True. There is also the performance of the lookouts.

Japanese:
The lookouts failed (until a certain time) to see one very small target on a night with 7% moonlight. Fair enough.

Allied:
The PT lookouts failed to see ANY of 37 larger to very much larger targets until that same instant. And conditions were clear.

Feed them boys some carrots!

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RE: Tidbit - 1/5/2009 9:35:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: m10bob

Well....the Jap warships stayed with the troopships to defend them. For all they knew, the PT might have been a "draw".


True. There is also the performance of the lookouts.

Japanese:
The lookouts failed (until a certain time) to see one very small target on a night with 7% moonlight. Fair enough.

Allied:
The PT lookouts failed to see ANY of 37 larger to very much larger targets until that same instant. And conditions were clear.

Feed them boys some carrots!


Or loan them some of the fine Japanese optics




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RE: Tidbit - 1/5/2009 11:05:49 PM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 12:11:24 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 2:23:27 AM   
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LSD Shinshu Maru


I can't wait to see what that LSD is like!

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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 8:44:46 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 10:28:10 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 10:45:21 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 10:55:48 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 10:58:38 AM   
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The LSD is very useful as well :)

Getting your head round all the new ship classes takes some time, unlearning from stock and relearning.

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RE: Tidbit - 1/6/2009 1:17:34 PM   
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Good.

Now, have you made any provisions for helo squadrons, perchance? If not, don't let it slow anything down, but I just wondered about that as well.

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RE: Tidbit - 1/7/2009 10:12:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		History Channel (I think) had a piece on Jap helos flying from small carriers. The neat bit is that ships and helos were used in ASW and manned by army personnel!

I was unable to find anything about this force - not listed among IJN assets and the Army info I have doesn't mention shipping.

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RE: Tidbit - 1/7/2009 10:14:57 PM   
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< Message edited by Terminus -- 1/7/2009 10:17:07 PM >

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RE: Tidbit - 1/8/2009 10:13:47 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/8/2009 10:21:01 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/8/2009 10:32:24 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/8/2009 10:39:10 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/8/2009 4:04:33 PM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:06:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jrcar

Getting your head round all the new ship classes takes some time, unlearning from stock and relearning.


And that's just ships. It's almost impossible to wrap my head around the vast array of changes that have taken place in AE - almost EVERYTHING has been tweaked or gutted and rebuilt. Which begs the question......if learning to play WitP required an ascent of the "learning cliff", what will AE demand? Oxygen? Pitons?

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:19:09 AM   
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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:21:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kull

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ORIGINAL: jrcar

Getting your head round all the new ship classes takes some time, unlearning from stock and relearning.


And that's just ships. It's almost impossible to wrap my head around the vast array of changes that have taken place in AE - almost EVERYTHING has been tweaked or gutted and rebuilt. Which begs the question......if learning to play WitP required an ascent of the "learning cliff", what will AE demand? Oxygen? Pitons?



Which reminds me - we really need someone to compile a "Changelist" type thread so people can run over and immediately get their "is this feature included?" question answered. That'd cut down on the threads posted about 50%..

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:24:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Alikchi
Which reminds me - we really need someone to compile a "Changelist" type thread so people can run over and immediately get their "is this feature included?" question answered. That'd cut down on the threads posted about 50%..


No prob. I'll take care of that right now.

Changelist Follows:

"Everything"



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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:25:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kull

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ORIGINAL: Alikchi
Which reminds me - we really need someone to compile a "Changelist" type thread so people can run over and immediately get their "is this feature included?" question answered. That'd cut down on the threads posted about 50%..


No prob. I'll take care of that right now.

Changelist Follows:

"Everything"





Eh,not exactly. Some things we have been told are SAIEW. Therefore, here's the corrected changelist:

"Most Everything"


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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:29:24 AM   
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"Most everything, except for (insert your favorite nitpick here)." 

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:43:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Make that:

"Most everything, except for (insert your favorite nitpick here)." 



But (insert your favorite nitpick here) is ESSENTIAL! AE is BROKEN!!!1

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 9:32:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

You have NO idea...



And this is one of the reasons I will continue to play using one day turns.(Small baby steps till I get off the training wheels again).

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 4:03:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: m10bob


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

You have NO idea...



And this is one of the reasons I will continue to play using one day turns.(Small baby steps till I get off the training wheels again).


You got off the training wheels??!!

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:12:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


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ORIGINAL: m10bob


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

You have NO idea...



And this is one of the reasons I will continue to play using one day turns.(Small baby steps till I get off the training wheels again).


You got off the training wheels??!!


I'm too afraid to take off the training wheels. I might fall down and get hurt. (IE Midway'ed in a big way)

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RE: Tidbit - 1/9/2009 5:16:22 PM   
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