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Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 9:37:03 AM   
Apollo11


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Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise


Have you guys watched this?

How did you like it?

Do you think it is historically accurate enough?


I am watching this on History channel in past few weeks...


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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 10:09:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I found it annoying after a while. Like most modern "historical" programmes it is "historylite". While Enterprise is an ideal vehicle to follow through various battles, it lacked depth. The concept is promising though. I liked Dogfights, but found that they seem to pad out programmes with a lot of repeated sequences...

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 11:56:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good CGI and ok if you want a brief overview of battles in the pacific. But if i had to hear the phrase USS Enterprise one more time id have commited suicide

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 12:24:08 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 4:36:00 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 8:34:11 PM   
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It was as if the Midway action was an attempt to sink the Big E, other Cv were irrelevant.

Missed a good chance to show flight paths of air groups which either found the KB  or flew off into the blue.

Entry level history lesson (Aleutians attacks?)


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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/14/2009 8:54:52 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 12:09:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		They had the sponsor, the money, and the technology..., and apparently "A Dummy's Guide to the Pacific War" for a script.  With the help of some decent professional historical input, it could have been a classic.   And I must second CANTONA2's sentiment..., I too reached the point where if I heard the phrase "USS Enterprise" one more time I was going to throw a shoe at the set.

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 3:56:06 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 8:53:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RUPD3658

I had no idea that the Big E singled handedly won the war until I saw this series


That was exactly my sentiment after 1st episode...

They alleged that single plane from Enterprise sunk the IJN Cruiser at Kwajalein / Wotje whilst the historic truth was that it was just light cruiser and only lightly damaged (same thing with all those "important cargo ships" in laguna)...


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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 3:43:43 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 6:04:15 PM   
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Hehe, sounds like I need to watch this. (*Points at his avatar and sig.*)


USS Enterprise, not NCC

Judging by the content of the show they would lead you to believe that the firepower was about the same.

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 6:21:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise


Have you guys watched this?

How did you like it?

Do you think it is historically accurate enough?


I am watching this on History channel in past few weeks...


Leo "Apollo11"


Saw all 360 episodes it's first season; heavy on CGI and special effects, but lt. on accuracey and history. However, it did improve towards the end of the season; that or I just got more accustomed to it.

Good thing the "Big E" was dry-docked towards war's end or the show would have claimed it won the war in the PTO.

BTW, 360 was sponsored by Enterprise Rent-a-Car, a company founded by a former Big E pilot, which may explain the obvious bias towards this great ship.

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 7:30:20 PM   
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USS Enterprise, not NCC

Hee hee! Actually, even the Star Trek Enterprise was called "USS Enterprise" (NCC-1701), although being a "Federation" starship, it should probably have been UFS Enterprise or some such. Roddenberry just thought "USS" sounded better. He fought in the Pacific theater and presumably was a Big-E fan. I wonder if Roddenberry is a pilot in WiTP -- I've never checked.



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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/15/2009 8:34:08 PM   
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I'm watching the shoW regulary (in fact I'm just going to watch latest episode of Big E followed by Dogfight: Battle of Leytte gulf), and tough I find it sometims too biased and not much historicly accurate, it's still good fun...

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/16/2009 1:44:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Haven't seen Battle 360 season 1, but judging from what has been written here it must have looked like this:



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/16/44

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Day Air attack on TF at 62,70


Allied aircraft
NCC1701 Enterprise x 1

Allied aircraft losses
none


Japanese Ships
CV Taiho, Phaser hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CV Shokaku, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Zuiho, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Chitose, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CA Tone, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
BB Yamato, Phaser hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CVL Chiyoda, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CV Zuikaku, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CL Noshiro, Phaser hits 1, on fire
BB Musashi, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x NCC1701 launching photon torpedoes at 200k feet






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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/16/2009 2:30:04 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/16/2009 4:05:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

Haven't seen Battle 360 season 1, but judging from what has been written here it must have looked like this:



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/16/44

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 62,70


Allied aircraft
NCC1701 Enterprise x 1

Allied aircraft losses
none


Japanese Ships
CV Taiho, Phaser hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CV Shokaku, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Zuiho, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Chitose, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CA Tone, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
BB Yamato, Phaser hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CVL Chiyoda, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CV Zuikaku, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CL Noshiro, Phaser hits 1, on fire
BB Musashi, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x NCC1701 launching photon torpedoes at 200k feet








Pretty close

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/18/2009 3:08:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

Haven't seen Battle 360 season 1, but judging from what has been written here it must have looked like this:



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/16/44

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 62,70


Allied aircraft
NCC1701 Enterprise x 1

Allied aircraft losses
none


Japanese Ships
CV Taiho, Phaser hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CV Shokaku, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Zuiho, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Chitose, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CA Tone, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
BB Yamato, Phaser hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CVL Chiyoda, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CV Zuikaku, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CL Noshiro, Phaser hits 1, on fire
BB Musashi, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x NCC1701 launching photon torpedoes at 200k feet








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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/18/2009 6:21:06 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/18/2009 5:32:49 PM   
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Allied aircraft
NCC1701 Enterprise x 1

Allied aircraft losses
none


Japanese Ships
CV Taiho, Phaser hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, sunk


LoL, my turn to spit coffee all over the screen! Very funny. :)

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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/18/2009 7:07:14 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/18/2009 10:44:08 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/21/2009 10:41:54 PM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/22/2009 3:51:23 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/22/2009 10:13:19 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/22/2009 10:49:18 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/25/2009 8:35:42 PM   
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I find it telling (about the authors and producers of this show) that they never mentioned the damage the Hiei had already taken when Enterprises planes found her. As well, they never mentioned that the Avengers of the Cactus Air Force put more torpedoes into the Hiei than did Enterprises planes...


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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/27/2009 12:01:56 AM   
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RE: Semi OT: Battle 360 - Season 1 - USS Enterprise - 1/27/2009 12:09:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

Haven't seen Battle 360 season 1, but judging from what has been written here it must have looked like this:



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/16/44

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 62,70


Allied aircraft
NCC1701 Enterprise x 1

Allied aircraft losses
none


Japanese Ships
CV Taiho, Phaser hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CV Shokaku, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Zuiho, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CVL Chitose, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CA Tone, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
BB Yamato, Phaser hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, sunk
CVL Chiyoda, Phaser hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CV Zuikaku, Phaser hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, sunk
CL Noshiro, Phaser hits 1, on fire
BB Musashi, Phaser hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x NCC1701 launching photon torpedoes at 200k feet








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