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Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 5:53:00 PM   
vettim89


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From: Toledo, Ohio
Status: offline 		The "WItP has taken over thread" made me think about where I live and what it would be if on the WItP map. Using WWII era figures I live in:

Toledo, Ohio (Urban hex, forts 0 and lots of RR's, temperate zone - though the -15 F temp yesterday makes me question that)

AB 2(2)
Port 3(3)
Manpower 5 (just a WAG)
HI 200 (I figure it had to have been bigger than Hanoi. Lots of stuff built here including all those Willys JEEPS)
Shipyard 10 (small shipyard here with a drydock. Built USCG cutters and most notably USCGC Mackinaw)
Oil 10 (Another WAG but the Lima-Trenton field is just south of here and produced a lot in the WWII era)

Today the only change would be AB 4(4). The airport houses the 180th TFG plus a Burlington Air Hub - 12,000 ft runway. Plus there are no fewer than 3 "fighter strips" here too

edit: forgot the hex characteristics

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 6:05:49 PM   
castor troy


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From: Austria
Status: offline 		Kufstein, Austria!

Mountain hex! Forts level 0! Railroad! Cold Zone! HI 10

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 6:15:56 PM   
wwengr


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From: Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, USA
Status: offline 		Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA

AB 2(4) - 6,000 ft x 100 ft rwy/3,600 ft x 75 ft rwy, ILS, room for expansion
Port 0(0) -unless a canoe launch on the Fox River counts as something
Urban Hex
Railroads - too many
Daily Supply 100 - nearby shopping!
Cold Zone! - Several sub-zero days recently. I feel my morale slipping and my home is suffering from additional disruption tracking in all of the snow...

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 6:22:48 PM   
vettim89


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ORIGINAL: vettim89

The "WItP has taken over thread" made me think about where I live and what it would be if on the WItP map. Using WWII era figures I live in:

Toledo, Ohio (Urban hex, forts 0 and lots of RR's, temperate zone - though the -15 F temp yesterday makes me question that)

AB 2(2)
Port 3(3)
Manpower 5 (just a WAG)
HI 200 (I figure it had to have been bigger than Hanoi. Lots of stuff built here including all those Willys JEEPS)
Shipyard 10 (small shipyard here with a drydock. Built USCG cutters and most notably USCGC Mackinaw)
Oil 10 (Another WAG but the Lima-Trenton field is just south of here and produced a lot in the WWII era)

Today the only change would be AB 4(4). The airport houses the 180th TFG plus a Burlington Air Hub - 12,000 ft runway. Plus there are no fewer than 3 "fighter strips" here too

edit: forgot the hex characteristics


I didn't add any resources. What constitutes a resource in WItP terms? The area produces obnoxious amounts of lime which is essential to the steel industry (If you have ever driven past a lime plant you understand the term obnoxious). Two refineries here too - forgot about that. Small smount of steel production although it was higher in WWII. What about food? Huge agricultural area and was more so in WWII.


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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 6:39:58 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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From: Southern California
Status: offline 		The "OC" hex (between Sand Diego and LA).

In 1941 it would be:


AB 1(6) (Eventually El Toro MCAS (2 x 10,000 ft) and Tustin MCAS (2 x 10,000 ft, 1 x 8,000 ft))

Port 2(2) Shallow draft harbor at Newport Beach

Fortifications: 2 (a few coastal guns in concrete emplacements in Huntiungton Beach)

Industry...not so much I guess, although a great deal would be right on the border with LA

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 7:27:48 PM   
JWE

 

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Status: offline 		Same hex as Cap Mandrake. 14.1 nm, bearing 121 mag, from Newport Beach.

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 7:31:43 PM   
Long Lance


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ORIGINAL: castor troy

Kufstein, Austria!

Mountain hex! Forts level 0! Railroad! Cold Zone! HI 10


Die Perle Tirols!!

Somehow surpising for me to see someone from Austria in this forum.
But on the other had, I should perhaps realise that WitP is a game, and no direct access to an ocean is required

My City of Birth is Wetzlar, a small town (50 k inhabitants with suburbs) with remarkably lots of industry. The famous Leica Camera was invented there. During WWII, roundabout 2/3 of the Axles for german Tanks were produced there (Röchling-Werke). HI perhaps 60? Hills, Railroad. Port 0. AF 1. Oil 0. Res perhaps 100 (iron ore).


Edit: Perhaps i should also tell you that Wetzlar is in Germany. 60 kms NW of Frankfurt

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 7:38:45 PM   
cantona2


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From: Gibraltar
Status: offline 		Gibraltar, Mtn/Urban Hex. Port 7. AF 3. Forts 9.

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 7:44:56 PM   
RUPD3658


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Joined: 8/28/2002
From: East Brunswick, NJ
Status: offline 		North New Jersey

Urban hex (Garden State be damned)
AF 9 (Newark-Liberty Airport)
Port 9 (Port Newark/Port Elizabeth)
Manpower Too much
RR lots
Forts 9 (Traffic, gang gunfire and toxic waste will stop any invaders)


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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 8:34:15 PM   
crsutton


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Joined: 12/6/2002
From: Maryland
Status: offline 		Washington DC. January 20th and I will either have to withdraw Geo. Bush or pay 10,000 PP.......

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 8:35:49 PM   
stuman


Posts: 3907
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From: Elvis' Hometown
Status: offline 		Memphis, TN. AF 2(6), Resource 250, HI 75, Port ( inland )  3(5) , Fort 0, Manpower 5. ( tried to compare against some Oz and Indian cites, this is hard to do ).

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 8:45:38 PM   
castor troy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Long Lance


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Kufstein, Austria!

Mountain hex! Forts level 0! Railroad! Cold Zone! HI 10


Die Perle Tirols!!

Somehow surpising for me to see someone from Austria in this forum.
But on the other had, I should perhaps realise that WitP is a game, and no direct access to an ocean is required

My City of Birth is Wetzlar, a small town (50 k inhabitants with suburbs) with remarkably lots of industry. The famous Leica Camera was invented there. During WWII, roundabout 2/3 of the Axles for german Tanks were produced there (Röchling-Werke). HI perhaps 60? Hills, Railroad. Port 0. AF 1. Oil 0. Res perhaps 100 (iron ore).



I´m not the only Austrian here on the forum!

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 9:25:01 PM   
Long Lance


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From: Ebbelwoi Country
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
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I´m not the only Austrian here on the forum!




Which proves my statement that no direct access to an ocean is needed to play WitP.






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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 9:31:23 PM   
Ambassador

 

Posts: 1674
Joined: 1/11/2008
From: Brussels, Belgium
Status: offline 		Bruxelles, Belgium - capital of Europe.  Urban hex, temperate zone, AF 9 (1)*, Port 1 (0)**, Fort 0.
As for manpower, industry and ressources, without real reference but extrapolating from WitP's map (mostly 1941 Japan, as Australia and the US were not "closed" enough) : Manpower 100, HI 1200, Ressources 800, various industries for 1800.***



* awarded Best Airport in Europe four years ago, but in its many years of existence, the city has surrounded it, bringing houses far too close...
** or maybe 9 (6), since Antwerp (international ranking from 11th to 17th, worldwide) is less than 30 miles away.  It would depend on how hex are drawn...
*** again, counting the hex's dimensions.  One of the densest PIB/km² overall - not always fun to live in, but useful.

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 9:38:34 PM   
Elessar

 

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From: Regensburg, Germany
Status: offline 		I live in Regensburg, Germany

urban hex, moderate climate
port (0)0, some 600km to the medeterranean sea, across the alps, and even further to the north sea
airfield 2(6) just a fighter runway and a factory runway, enough flat land to expand
manpower??? maybe 50k people back in those days
resources 20, not sure how to calculate this but it is not much, a lot of agriculture

  now it gets interesting:
heavy industry: maybe 250, VERY large aircraft assembly, Messerschmidt GmbH about half of all Bf109 were manifactured here, facrory got bombed out by LeMay himself (look up "Operation Double Strike" on wikipedia) late in the war, as the factory went out of buissnes after repeated bombings, the high tech Me262 were assenbled in very low tech huts in the forest outside of the city

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 11:01:44 PM   
tocaff


Posts: 4781
Joined: 10/12/2006
From: USA now in Brasil
Status: offline 		Itapetininga - Sao Paulo Brasil
Urban hex (Barely)
AF 1 (1) (A small grass strip)
Port 0 (0) (About 200 km for the Atlantic)
Forts 0
RR hex
HI 4
Tropical Zone (Dengue-Yellow Fever, you got the picture)


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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 11:18:44 PM   
rockmedic109

 

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Joined: 5/17/2005
From: Citrus Heights, CA
Status: offline 		I live in the Sacramento area.  It's on the CHS map.

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 11:28:54 PM   
Ol_Dog


Posts: 317
Joined: 2/23/2003
From: Southern Illinois
Status: offline 		Don't give credit or blame to Lemay for Regensburg.

According to the unit history of the 451st Bombardment Group (H), flying from Italy with the 15th Air Force -

"On August 16th the Group was awarded a Distinguished Unit Citation (1st of 3) for its outstanding work in the bombing and destruction of the Messerschmidt Airplane Factory in Regensburg, Germany, February 25, 1944."

The Group lost 6 B-24s that day along with many badly damaged.


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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/17/2009 11:41:09 PM   
cyberwop36

 

Posts: 306
Joined: 7/5/2004
From: Valparaiso, Indiana
Status: offline 		NW Indiana. Urban, AB 2 [4] , Gary airport,  Port 3 [5] Deep water port on Lake Michigan. 600 HI [4 massive steel mills, i work in one, Big refineries, chemical and manufacturing plants, what's left any way.]

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 12:53:10 AM   
Canoerebel


Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline 		Armuchee, Georgia
Port 0 (0)
Airfield 5 (7) - Russell Field handles C-135s
Woods hex - Chattahoochee National Forest
Temperate Zone (except in summer when humidity is awful)
Resources - 5
Manpower - 0
HI - 0 (unless you count the carpet industry)
Oil - 0 (you gotta be kidding)

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 1:46:15 AM   
ColFrost


Posts: 145
Joined: 10/29/2003
From: South St Paul, MN
Status: offline 		Brattleboro, VT

Port 0(0)
Airport 0(0)
Woods/Mountain Hex
Temperate Zone
Resources - 1
Manpower -0
HI - 0
Oil - 0

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 2:59:48 AM   
Crimguy


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From: Cave Creek, AZ
Status: offline 		On a partial OT, Phoenix, Arizona had a POW camp during WWII that had, among other inhabitants, captured sailors from the Kriegsmarine/uboat fleet. These guys were a little surprised to learn what "rivers" can be like in this part of the world (I've heard varying accounts of this escape from Papago park).

http://home.arcor.de/kriegsgefangene/usa/camps_usa/papago_park.html

It's my understanding that more than a few of these sailors drifted into town, were largely ignored by the locals, and returned to the camp when they got hungry.

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 3:25:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The "OC" hex (between Sand Diego and LA).

In 1941 it would be:


AB 1(6) (Eventually El Toro MCAS (2 x 10,000 ft) and Tustin MCAS (2 x 10,000 ft, 1 x 8,000 ft))

Port 2(2) Shallow draft harbor at Newport Beach

Fortifications: 2 (a few coastal guns in concrete emplacements in Huntiungton Beach)

Industry...not so much I guess, although a great deal would be right on the border with LA


Your hex is in AE.

I'm in the Portland hex, which doesn't show the merchant shipyard that was here during the war. Vancouver, WA built more aircraft carrier deckspace that all foreign navies combined. Kaiser cranked them out in record numbers.

There is essentially nothing left but pictures of the old shipyard.

There is a fort near the old shipyards, but I don't know what the fortification level is for an 18th century wooden fort. (It's a historical landmark now.)

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 4:19:28 AM   
Q-Ball


Posts: 7336
Joined: 6/25/2002
From: Chicago, Illinois
Status: offline 		I live in Chicago, IL. What are the stats?

Port: 9 (9) -- Largest number of boat slips of any port in the US; betcha didn't know that!
Airfield: 9 (9)
HI: 2000 (LOTS!)
Oil: 0

Plus, the homeport of not one, but TWO, US CVs!!!!!





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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 5:11:02 AM   
scott64


Posts: 4019
Joined: 9/12/2004
From: Colorado
Status: offline 		Denver
Port 0(0)
Airfield 9(9) and 6(3) and 6(3)
Resources 240
Heavy Industry 120
Oil 60
Fort 3



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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 5:25:25 AM   
Nomad


Posts: 5905
Joined: 9/5/2001
From: West Yellowstone, Montana
Status: offline 		West Yellowstone, Montana

Mountain and forest terrain
Arctic weather
Port (0)0
Airfield 1(0) in Summer, nonexistant in Winter
Resources none
Oil none
HI none
road net is small road in summer, trail most of winter ( some times none at all )



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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 5:40:46 AM   
bradfordkay

 

Posts: 8683
Joined: 3/24/2002
From: Olympia, WA
Status: offline 		Olympia, Washington... part of the Seattle base in WIPT (Seattle includes Seattle, Tacoma, Bremerton, Olympia and Everett). I am interested to see the AE treatment of this area (can't do a mouseover on the screenshot that was posted last month!). 

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 5:41:03 AM   
Hornblower


Posts: 1361
Joined: 9/10/2003
From: New York'er relocated to Chicago
Status: offline 		Chicago
Port 1
Airport 10
Woods/Mountain Hex 0  ... ha ha, ain't no woods here
Temperate Zone
Resources - 9
Manpower -9
Oil - 0

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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 7:00:21 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 17178
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline 		La Salle, CO
Port 0 (0)
Airfield 1 (3) - Pilot Training Field in Greeley with Air Force Satellite Detachment
Clear Hex - 5,000 Ft Altitude
Semi-Arid Zone
Resources - 50  (LOTS of Agriculture and Uranium) 
Manpower - 0
HI - 5  (Ethanol Plants)
Oil - 5 (LOTS of drilling going on right now)
RR Hex - Main North/South Line for Union Pacific RR with accompaning Rail Yard.


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RE: Where do you live in WItP terms - 1/18/2009 7:26:52 AM   
wdolson

 

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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Olympia, Washington... part of the Seattle base in WIPT (Seattle includes Seattle, Tacoma, Bremerton, Olympia and Everett). I am interested to see the AE treatment of this area (can't do a mouseover on the screenshot that was posted last month!).


In AE the Tacoma hex includes McChord and Fort Lewis. The port starts at 5 (6) and the af at 2 (7), 2 manpower, 680 resources, 80 light industry, and 40 repair shipyard. (Subject to change before release of course.)

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