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Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big B 1.5 - 2/18/2009 2:44:50 AM   
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I am Rainer's hapless Allied opponent, playing Big B's version 1.5 of his Scenario 15 mod on Andrew Brown's extended map. Many thanks to Big B both for his painstaking work in creating this excellent mod, and for generously supplying the 1.5 version to us slightly ahead of a general release. Rainer has begun an AAR, which I am sure will make for excellent reading (Not for me, for obvious reasons :) ). So I've started this, to share my view of events, for comparison if nothing else.

Sitrep, 28-12-41

Overview – On 7-8 December, Japanese Imperial military forces struck at United States and allied targets across the Pacific Rim, with the most damaging initial strike occurring at Pearl Harbor. The carrier air attack sunk the USS Tennessee, and crippled all other battleships of the US Pacific fleet, except the USS Arizona, and the USS Oklahoma, which was damaged significantly. The USS Colorado was at Seattle at the time of the attack.

In the three weeks since that initial wave of attacks, the Japanese attacks have continued, in the Philippines, Malaya, Dutch East Indies, New Guinea, and the Solomon Islands. Allied forces in general have been outclassed by their attackers, who are in large part better equipped, more prepared, and in greater numbers at the decisive points of attack. The allied response has been limited to falling back, and preparing viable lines of defense. A few skirmishes have been won, but the Japanese are still advancing steadily in all Pacific areas, and can be expected to do so for at least the next nine to twelve months.

West Coast – Numerous land units have been dispatched to either reinforce or garrison bases seen as crucial to forming an inner perimeter. In addition damaged vessels from Pearl Harbor have been streaming into shipyards up and down the coast, to begin repairs. So far, there has been little to no perceived Japanese activity near the West Coast, though search and anti-submarine air operations are ongoing, as a precaution. The three fleet carriers of the US Pacific Fleet are also remaining on the West Coast, till more decks, and more capable aircraft, become available, or until a true opportunity for their use becomes available.

North Pacific – Air transports are engaged in an air reinforcement of Dutch Harbor, and a base force, infantry regiment, and coastal artillery regiment have been dispatched to Attu island by sea. Additional engineering assets will be sent to Attu, along with air units, as sealift, and appropriate assets, become available. Attu forms the northern end of the inner perimeter desire by allied planners, and is intended as a major base for naval patrol and ASW aircraft, and later, for strategic bombers. No Japanese activity has been detected in this area of operations.

Central Pacific – Since the strike on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese seem to have been content with grabbing up Wake and Guam, as well as Tarawa and the surrounding atolls/islands. Baker Island, as well, is under Japanese control. Numerous sightings of Japanese submarines have occurred, and Glen overflights of USN operations are a common occurrence. Its a safe bet that the enemy is at least to some extent aware of our movements. Midway, and the Line Islands, form part of the inner perimeter, and are being reinforced. Notably, the 2nd Marine Division has been dispatched to garrison Palmyra and the rest of the Line Islands, along with an infantry regiment of the US Army. Units of the 24th Infantry Division have spread out to garrison the Hawaiian Islands, and efforts are underway to improve the various Hawaiian airfields so that a mutually supportive network of strong air forces can be ready in case of need. Johnston Island has also received minor reinforcements, though it lies forward of the planned initial perimeter.

South Pacific – Very little Allied activity here, a RNZA brigade dispatched to Noumea, and a US Army regiment, base force, and USMC defense battalion dispatched to Papeete. Another regiment from Panama will also be going to Papeete shortly after the first of the year. Papeete is the southern end of the planned defensive perimeter. Early in 1942, depending largely on perceived Japanese movements, steps may be taken to begin building an air bridge to Australia/NZ, using Penrhyn, Suva, Pago Pago, etc. Japanese forces have taken Rabaul, and moved to occupy Shortlands and Lunga.

Australia/New Zealand – Again, limited activity here, at least on the Eastern seaboard. An Australian battalion, USN base force and heavy supplies have been sent to Thursday Island, in hopes of building up that location into a base for Beaufort torpedo bombers, arguably Australia's best currently available weapon. A brigade will be dispatched there to further bolster the defense, early in 1942. Port Moresby has been deemed indefensible, and its air units and garrison will be evacuated as soon as practicable. Darwin is being fortified, though its unlikely to be held. Secondary positions are being prepared in Katherine, and points south, as rapidly as possible. Perth is growing rapidly as a naval base, with a large mixed force of RN, USN, and ABDA naval forces. It also is a focus for numerous shipments of oil, resources, fuel, and supplies, as every effort is made to prepare Australia for what looks like an oncoming siege. A few USAAF bombers from the Philippines have arrived in Australia, and fighter units and more bombers will be transferring down from the DEI as Japanese advances continue. So far, Japanese operations in this area have been limited to occupying bases and locations along the northwest coast of New Guinea.

DEI/ABDA – A lot going on here. Palembang has been largely evacuated, save for a base force to perform demolitions, and occasional tankers moving in and out to move oil down to Perth, Australia. Two squadrons of transport aircraft are here, taking supplies to Singapore. Force Z engaged a Japanese force at Kuching, and didn't come off well, despite having significant advantages in throw weight and armor. However, it did manage to disengage, despite some damage, and headed off to Oz for repairs. Three squadrons of Martin bombers are operating out of Balikpapan, attacking Japanese shipping. Both Batavia and Soerabaja are being fortified and reinforced, but like elsewhere, there really isn't enough force on hand to do more then slow down the Japanese. The enemy has taken all of Northern Borneo, Tarakan, Amboina, and is threatening the rest of Borneo, while moving on Timor. Strong enemy air elements are operating at Kuching. Japanese shipping has begun to penetrate the sea area near Palembang, and submarines are operating in the vicinity.

Malaysia – Only Johore and Singapore are effectively still in British hands, though most of the personnel assigned to Malaysia made it to the temporary safety of the trenches. One Indian brigade, and one base force, are on the east coast road, slowly making their way south, but cut off by the Japanese advance, and low on supply. Johore Baru will hold as long as possible, then the forces there will withdraw into Singapore for the final stand. More tranport aircraft will be flying out fragments of base forces and combat formations to rebuild in India and Australia.

India/Burma – Lots of moving around and shifting of forces here. Burma itself is largely being abandoned, all the way up to Mandalay and Lashio. Those two places, along with perhaps Taungyi, will form the southern edge of the Burma Perimeter. Akyab is just too hard to supply, and too open to amphibious assault. Rangoon has been largely abandoned, leaving only the static coastal defense unit in place. The southern coast of India is being garrisoned by brigade strength forces. While this won't stop a determined attack, it may buy time to shift forces and engage any seaborne invasion. Most of the RN has withdrawn to Aden, until useful carriers and carrier aircraft become available. Before then, the RN will see service mostly as convoy escorts between Aden and Karachi and Perth. The RN is being augmented by USS Houston and Boise, as well as a number of USN destroyers, and Dutch light cruisers and destroyers, though the latter are depressingly short ranged. The decision has been made to avoid seriously contesting the skies above India until modern aircraft have arrived in numbers. The large Hurricane reinforcement in January will be a strong step in that direction, and may allow for at least competent point defense of a couple of key locations.

China – Aside from the siege of Hong Kong, so far the Japanese seem content to assault guerilla forces behind their lines. The opportunity is being taken to withdraw as many mobile units as possible from Khansien/Pucheng/Wuchow. A strong Chinese reinforcement of 8 divisions and an Army Headquarters are on their way to reinforce the Lashio/Mandalay area. Attempts are under way to gain experience for the rather third-rate Chinese air units, and three USAAF fighter squadrons from the Philippines have been assigned to stiffen Chinese air defenses. This will free the AVG to remain in Burma, and continue its work as fighter cover there.

Philippines – Arguably the most intensively active battle area. An initial attempt was made to hold a perimeter Lingayen-Baguio-Lamon Bay-Leguio, but the line was turned at Lingayen, after initial Japanese attacks at Lamon Bay and Baguio were stopped cold. Currently the regiment at Lamon Bay is cut off, and it is very possible that when Clark falls, the defense of the Philippines will be split in two, and be defeated in detail. The Philippine air forces were crippled during the initial air attacks, and while they did recover, they have been largely evacuated to other operations areas to continue the fight against the Japanese. A number of fragments or complete fores, especially from the southern Philippines, have escaped to Australia, or the DEI. The Far Eastern Fleet almost completely slipped the noose of the IJN, and will fight another day, as will most of the sea lift capability from the area.

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December 28, 1941

Balikpapan - Dutch bombers flying out of Balikpapan continue to score on Japanese sealift. One AP was hit by four 250 lb GP bombs, and isn't likely to live long. A Japanese heavy cruiser was also struck, but the bomb pretty much just singed the paint job. Several Japanese battleships were spotted heading for Balikpapan, and two squadrons of torpedo planes were moved into the area, hoping for a couple of torp runs on them.

Mandalay - A second squadron of the AVG was sent off to Madras to receive their shiny new P40E Warhawks. I hope to have all three AVG squadrons re-equipped, and back on the flight line, by mid to late January. This will coincide with the rival of eighty Hurricane IIs in the theatre, giving me 150 airframes that are at least in the same general class as most of the Japanese fighters and fighter bombers currently operating in the area.

Pucheng - The Japanese have cut the road back towards Khansien, and without supplies, its likely that Pucheng will be easily taken in the near future.

Johore Baru - Massive Japanese forces have struck at Johore Baru, and while the deliberate attack was defeated, the order has been given to withdraw behind the forts at Singapore. Flying out of key personnel has begun, with USAAF B-17s flying into Singapore to commence the evacuations.

Bataan - 2nd Constabulary Division has been formed up, and the riflemen have been sent to join the defense of Clark Field. It is possible that Clark can be held for quite some time, though the final result is not in much doubt.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/18/2009 5:31:48 PM   
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December 29, 1941

Balikpapan - Japanese cruisers bombarded today, causing some damage, hitting a couple of auxiliaries in the harbor. The Martins flew again, but they either missed, or bounced more of their 250 lb HE bombs uselessly off cruiser armor. I had forgotten about the lack of aerial torpedoes at small, low-supply airbases, so my torpedo planes tried to strafe Japanese shipping, with poor results. They've been sent to Palembang to hunt Japanese submarines.

Singapore - The retreat into the Singapore defenses continues, with lots of airlift getting key personnel out. Submarines are enroute to join in the evacuation effort, but they may not get there in time, if the siege goes as poorly as I fear.

Palembang - Japanese Nells pounded a small convoy headed to pick up oil at Palembang, sinking one ship, and leaving three others, including a precious tanker, nearly dead in the water. A minesweeping group also was paid a visit, with one Dutch minesweeper sunk.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/18/2009 11:57:31 PM   
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December 30, 1941

Not a good day to be an allied soldier. The 31st Infantry Regiment, cut off from the main fighting at Clark Field in the Philippines was forced to surrender, and Hong Kong was finally overrun, as the last lines of fortifications were destroyed.

Samarinda was invaded, and the aircraft stationed there have been rebased at other bases in the DEI. Martins out of Balikpapan harried the Japanese transports, and may have sunk another one.

In India, two light armored brigades, and a small armored regiment, along with numerous artillery units, finished debarking in Chittagong, along with copious supplies, and an airfield was built next door at Cox's Bazaar. The garrisoning of the southern India coast is nearly complete, though base forces are lacking at some locations. Hopefully some of this can be made good by using units rescued from Singapore and the DEI, as well as arriving reinforcements.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 7:11:27 AM   
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Mad66,

(1)  Is there a Readme file for v1.5?  If so could you post it here as I have had difficulties in accessing this version and am interested in knowing the changes from v1.4.

(2)  In v1.4 the AVG was equipped with its own Curtis model.  That plane had good performance figures and if unchanged in this latest version, you should not rush to re-equip the AVG with the P-40E.  If you do, you will lose the capacity to equip any Allied unit with the Curtis model.

(3)  In your SitRep of 28 Dec, you indicated that you expected the enemy to continue advancing for at least 9-12 months.  That is too pesimistic.  A well thought out and played Allied position should be largely able to check the enemy well before then.  You should therefore already at this stage be planning where and how the Allies will counter attack.

(4)  It is very important to ensure that the Chinese LCUs attached to SEAC leave China to join Allied forces in Burma/India.  Doing so (a) considerably aids your supply situation in China and and (b) strengthens your Burma/Indian defences.

Alfred

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 2:06:18 PM   
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Mad66,

(1)  Is there a Readme file for v1.5?  If so could you post it here as I have had difficulties in accessing this version and am interested in knowing the changes from v1.4.

Alfred


Alfred, here are the design notes for Big B 1.55

Design Notes 1.55 changes (DEC 08);

Basically the same as 1.4 except as follows:
A6M3 Zero has had its durability reset to 22 - as it should have been (All A6M2 & A6M3 Zeros are Dur=22 instead of Dur=20...typo)
Device 188, Type 99 20mm cannon (A6M2 and A6M3 Zero) range increased from 2 to 3.
P-36C guns changed from 6x .30 Brownings to, 1x.50 cal & 3x.30 cal Brownings - historical research.
H-81A3 (Flying Tigers P-40) speed dropped from 368 to 355 - historical research.
P-39D and P-400 speed dropped from 360 to 355 - historical research.
B-17G - deleted, No B-17G's went to the PTO - historical research.
B-17F replaces B-17G, F model arrives in Nov 1942, factory upgrade,
All B-17 types autoupgrade to B-24J in Late 1943.
FM-2 Wildcat MVR rating increased from 36 to 40, matches the MVR rating of A6M5 - historical research.
A5M4 Claude MVR rating increased from 39 to 44 - AE research.

All of the above changes reflect either the correction of typos, or incorporate new data found while putting AE together.
Note: AE will alter this further through introduction of altitude based performance bands.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 2:24:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alfred

(2)  In v1.4 the AVG was equipped with its own Curtis model.  That plane had good performance figures and if unchanged in this latest version, you should not rush to re-equip the AVG with the P-40E.  If you do, you will lose the capacity to equip any Allied unit with the Curtis model.

(3)  In your SitRep of 28 Dec, you indicated that you expected the enemy to continue advancing for at least 9-12 months.  That is too pesimistic.  A well thought out and played Allied position should be largely able to check the enemy well before then.  You should therefore already at this stage be planning where and how the Allies will counter attack.

(4)  It is very important to ensure that the Chinese LCUs attached to SEAC leave China to join Allied forces in Burma/India.  Doing so (a) considerably aids your supply situation in China and and (b) strengthens your Burma/Indian defences.

Alfred


Alfred, first, thanks for your thoughtful comments. Let me address your points in order:

(2) What I've been doing is basically trading the Flying Tiger Curtis to squadrons equipped with P40Es on the West Coast that I don't intend to ship overseas soon. The P40E is just slightly superior to the H81, which is just about identical to a P40C, in terms of combat ability, and I get a lot more P40E replacements, which will make sustaining heavy air combat over CBI easier. And if need be, those fighter squadrons on the West Coast can go into combat just fine with the H81s, and the range advantage might be a useful thing over the Pacific.

(3) Admittedly, my estimate is pessimistic. I'd rather plan for the worst and be pleasantly surprised by better results, then the opposite. Right now, I'm working to build viable perimeters Attu - Papeete in the Pacific, along the Burma-India frontier, and in eastern inland Burma (basically Imphal-Mandalay-Lashio) and preparing to defend Australia, as well as I can. Behind the perimeters I can build up forces, while getting a better idea of what Admiral Rainer-san is doing, and hopefully bleed out as much of the IJN and IJA pilot pools as I can, which should pay dividends when the time does come to counter-attack.

(4) All the Southeast Asia assigned Chinese units are on their way into Burma, at the usual glacial marching pace. That amounts to 9 divisions, at the moment, though I might transfer Stillwell's headquarters to SE Asia command shortly.


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December 31, 1941

Japanese troops land at Balikpapan. Dutch Martin bombers (I love these guys) continue to bomb Japanese transports, badly pounding one, and leaving another ablaze. But, its time to move them out, so the Martin squadrons head south to Koepang and Lautem, their Hawk escorts go back to Soerabaja.

The mini-KB is east of New Guinea, and heading southwest, maybe a raid down into the Coral Sea, or presaging a landing on Port Moresby, which was visited by the IJN Air Arm. Luckily CL Adelaide set sail a couple of days ago for Brisbane. If the Mini-KB does come calling into Australian waters, 32 Beaufort V-IXs are waiting, along with 50 Wirra-coffins, to attract bullets from the Mini-KB CAP. It'll be more if I get a few days grace.

A large Japanese Surface Task Force (4 BBs, several cruisers) was spotted heading towards Saigon, I expect to see them in the DEI soon, possibly at Palembang, which is loaded with Torpedo planes and a large PT force to try for some hits on big Japanese iron.

A Japanese shock attack on Clark today got 1 to 1 odds, so I expect that the next attack will force the defenders back on Bataan, and effectively turn the Philippines campaign into two relatively short sieges.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 7:10:32 PM   
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January 1, 1942

The new year does not dawn all that well for the allies. Port Blair, where base forces being flown out of Singapore are landing as a waystation for points further north, finds itself under attack by a small Japanese SNLF. Troops are being flown in from Cox's in an attempt to keep the base open for a while, but it doesn't seem likely.

Far more disturbing, the (foolishly, on my part) unescorted convoy to Attu finds itself under attack by destroyers, most likely an escort to the Japanese transports also on the way to Attu. Much of an infantry regiment, base force, and coastal AA unit were landed despite the setback, but most of their supplies were not. Not sure what to do about this. The nearest available ship to intervene is the Colorado, but not sure whether its worth the risks. I might put together a reinforcement group to head up there, with Colorado, Arizona, a few cruisers, and a large destroyer force, guarding a supply shipment.

Balikpapan falls, with it a couple of damaged ships in the harbor, and 8 aircraft which were damaged and unable to rebase away from the invaders.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 9:52:44 PM   
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January 2, 1942

The transport group savaged at Attu is limping off, though its been decided to offload them at Amchitka, since some of the more damaged vessels might well not make Adak. It might actually be a blessing in disguise, since we may manage to end up with two bases under development in the north. (Ever so slowly in the north, of course, due to the conditions.)

Port Blair has fallen. Rather then load up a company or so of riflemen to see off the Japanese paratroopers there, it was decided instead to send a few planeloads of clerks and cooks to see the sights on the island before being captured.

The Japanese launched a massive shock attack on Singapore. While casualties on both sides were frightful, the attack was stopped before penetrating the outer layer of defenses.

Following is a combat report:

Ground combat at Singapore
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 126758 troops, 1306 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 2224
Defending force 73374 troops, 459 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 913
Japanese max assault: 2106 - adjusted assault: 807
Allied max defense: 949 - adjusted defense: 1037
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)
Japanese ground losses:
3757 casualties reported
Guns lost 114
Vehicles lost 6
Allied ground losses:
3638 casualties reported
Guns lost 41
Vehicles lost 2

Right now, I am still undecided about whether to commit to a surface action in the Aleutians. I have a fighter base at Attu, but I'd need to resupply it before I could really count on much action from fighters based there. The Japanese have several destroyers and a cruiser in the area, but I don't know where the Kido Butai is. Still, if I could take control of the area, I could get both Attu and Amchitka off to a good start, and maybe bag a couple Japanese warships and destroyers. Plus, admittedly, the idea of getting to use the Arizona in a true surface action, as well as the Colorado's big 16 inch guns, is very appealing. I have the force assembling at Port Rupert, but we'll see if it actually gets used.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 10:46:07 PM   
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Hi Mad66,

I'm glad to see people are still playing this - it makes updating the mod more satisfying.

Do you mind if I give you a tactical tip? I'm not sure how many H81's, P-40B's, and P-40C's you still have available in the pool and on the map - but - you should have a good 200+ left in Jan 1942. They make a great "Flying Circus" with 7-hex range. If you can get them all together, and add several bomb groups of (64)B-26's and B-25's....they make for a powerful mobile air corps - ideal for shutting down enemy air fields within 7 hexes of any major Allied air base that might need the offensive air power...

It can be devastating in 1942 when used properly (it also tends to make Japanese players sweat out where it might show up next, it can be a useful psychological warfare tool).

Anyway, good luck!
B

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 11:31:57 PM   
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I just like to note to Brian that I NEVER sweat!  

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/19/2009 11:48:45 PM   
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True, Samurai never sweat!..But they do perspire

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 12:02:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Big B

Hi Mad66,

I'm glad to see people are still playing this - it makes updating the mod more satisfying.

Do you mind if I give you a tactical tip? I'm not sure how many H81's, P-40B's, and P-40C's you still have available in the pool and on the map - but - you should have a good 200+ left in Jan 1942. They make a great "Flying Circus" with 7-hex range. If you can get them all together, and add several bomb groups of (64)B-26's and B-25's....they make for a powerful mobile air corps - ideal for shutting down enemy air fields within 7 hexes of any major Allied air base that might need the offensive air power...

It can be devastating in 1942 when used properly (it also tends to make Japanese players sweat out where it might show up next, it can be a useful psychological warfare tool).

Anyway, good luck!
B


Big B, this mod has always been my favorite. To me its the cleanest of the mods, things like CHS and RHS are wonderful, and I've enjoyed trying them, but your mod is the one I keep coming back to. I hope you keep up after AE comes out, since I can only guess what you can accomplish with that as a base, rather then stock WITP.

I've got lots of P40Cs and H81s, though a lot of them are on the West Coast now. My numbers of Marauders are still depressingly small, at least those that are tactically mobile. I love the idea though, especially as the campaign across the islands starts up. I could do something similar, though with shorter legs, in the CBI with P40Es and Wellys, I think.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 12:20:23 AM   
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High praise indeed, thank you & Good luck.

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Big B, this mod has always been my favorite.


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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 12:37:25 AM   
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Some Allied players have used B-17s to get the squadrons to Burma/India by island hopping across the Pacific while the air bridge is still open. Once in Burma/India, the upgrade to to the desired plane type and by the power of "Star Trek" use those B-17s to do it again and again. Some consider this ability "gamey."  You can easily get almost 100 bomber into India before the bridge closes. 

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 11:29:48 AM   
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Some Allied players have used B-17s to get the squadrons to Burma/India by island hopping across the Pacific while the air bridge is still open. Once in Burma/India, the upgrade to to the desired plane type and by the power of "Star Trek" use those B-17s to do it again and again. Some consider this ability "gamey."  You can easily get almost 100 bomber into India before the bridge closes. 


That's a very interesting idea. I do have two squadrons of B-17D in India, refugees from Philippines, but I think I would agree with the gamey-ness of the plan, and Rainer and I kept our house rules to a minimum by agreeing not to get too gamey with what we did. I'm already pushing things by switching out H81s in India with P40Es from the West Coast.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 11:37:00 AM   
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January 3rd, 1942

The Japanese are fairly swiftly sewing up New Guinea. Troops occupied Milne Bay, after a spirited defense by a local planter with a shotgun. Dili, on Timor, was also occupied.

Two Japanese destroyers again found my gaggle of merchant ships limping towards Amchitka, sinking one, and putting two in such bad shape that I doubt they'll manage to make the 60 miles to the island to dump what cargo they have left. Apparently a desperate merchant crewman managed to hit the marauding destroyers with a deck gun, because one of the Japanese destroyers was left hit once and on fire. A few Mohawks from Attu have been put on Naval attack, maybe they'll harass those destroyers with few small bombs, but I'm not optimistic.

I've moved a group of Marauder bombers to Prince Rupert, just in case my surface group needs some bomber support. Right now I have the bombers doing ASW patrols, though I sincerely doubt there are any Japanese submarines in the area.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 6:08:27 PM   
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In the middle of a blizzard, Japanese destroyers found and finished off the two worst damaged of the transports near Kiska island, which the Japanese have occupied. I'm not sure if Kiska was their original target, or whether they landed there since my guys got onto Attu first. The remnants of my units that didn't make the Attu landing, and the bulk of the planned supply drop, are now on Amchitka Island.

Colorado and two cruisers are now in Prince Rupert, awaiting Arizona, four more cruisers, and eight destroyers, as well as eight transports carrying supplies. A squadron of Mitchells has been shifted forward to Kodiak, to provide some measure of deterrence against further Japanese inroads. I expect the whole thing to be ready to sail for the vicinity of Attu in a week, perhaps less.

The Dutch aircraft at Koepang have been seconded to the Southwest Pacific command and sent to Australia. All the bomber crews (30 of them) are quite experienced (high 60s) and should do very well once they are re-equipped with more capable aircraft then Martin 166 bombers and Brewster fighters for escort. Koepang is likely to fall within the day.

The Japanese sent 44 Zeros to sweep Mandalay, but amusingly the AVG is scattered over India and China uncrating their shiny new P40E Warhawks, so no one was home to receive the visitors.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/20/2009 8:29:33 PM   
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Interesting times at Palembang, a small Japanese naval force makes a night-time raid, sinking one minesweeper, damaging another one (it was sunk once the sun came up) and a MTB on their way out of the harbor.

Koepang falls to a brigade of the Japanese 56th division, with the remaining Dutch defenders taking to the hills. All but 1 damaged aircraft had been removed to Northern Australia, so the Dutch Air Force will strike back, soon.

Soerabaja is the target of a largish air raid, but the Dutch fighter cover gives a good account of itself.

Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 23,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M Nell x 45
Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 8
Brewster 339D x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 8 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
ML Gouden Leeuw, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet

It looks like I'll have about 250 Allied fighters to prosecute the air war over Northern Burma. He is closing on largely abandoned Rangoon, and in a few days I'll have 6 squadrons of 60-75 exp P40E, 5 squadrons of 50-60 exp Buffalo I, and 6 squadrons of exp 60 Hurricane II fighters. My basic plan is to use the Hurricane II for point defense, the Buffalo for bomber escort, and the P40E as CAP over the bomber bases.

Still not sure about committing the Colorado and Arizona to battle around Attu, but it seems like a neat opportunity to have a good old fashioned surface brawl without aircraft getting too involved. The weather is ugly, so its dicey about air support from either side.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/21/2009 3:54:10 PM   
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Clark Field was the target of a heavy Japanese shock attack, I think it will only take one, maybe two more before the defenders get pushed back into Bataan, and the Philippines defense perimeter is cut in two.

Ground combat at Clark Field
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 89766 troops, 690 guns, 299 vehicles, Assault Value = 1448
Defending force 45989 troops, 221 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 1213
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese max assault: 2814 - adjusted assault: 949
Allied max defense: 1249 - adjusted defense: 524
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Japanese ground losses:
2984 casualties reported
Guns lost 38
Vehicles lost 20
Allied ground losses:
2074 casualties reported
Guns lost 36
Vehicles lost 5

Otherwise, routine air attacks on Palembang, Singapore, Clark, and Sabang.

Japanese forces are now at Rangoon, but the city is still in British hands. The defenses around the horseshoe (Mandalay, Myitkyina, Lashio) are starting to firm up, and Stillwell and his nine divisions of Chinese troops are on the way, though with great deliberation. (I'd say glacial slowness, but it'd be repetitive.)

The siege at Singapore continues, with a another day of air and artillery bombardment by the Japanese. I suspect it will only be another week, perhaps ten days, before the city falls.

USS Colorado, USS Arizona, three heavy cruisers, two light cruisers, and a gaggle of destroyers are heading to Kiska island to bombard the Japanese building a base there. Once I see the results of that, I can make a better plan to proceed in that arena.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/21/2009 6:08:00 PM   
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Rangoon was attacked today. The attack was stopped, but only after the Japanese attackers broke through all defensive lines. (Forts were reduced to 0.) The city is likely to fall tomorrow.

Buna was occupied after two local boys were arrested by the native constable after throwing rocks at the attackers, ending all resistance.

Makassar has been invaded, but remains in Allied hands.

Some air action, but nothing extremely noteworthy.


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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/21/2009 10:17:01 PM   
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As expected, Rangoon falls. The city was largely abandoned, with just a coastal defense unit and a few bits of a base force left there.

Clark Field is due to fall in the near future, I'd say no more then three days. I'm considering withdrawing troops tomorrow into Bataan, and hunkering down for the siege phase of this fight. Manila won't last long, and Bataan will fall not much after. Or become a prison camp, one of the two.

Singapore's days are also numbered, the Japanese got a 1 to 1, and caused more casualties then they took, the last deliberate attack.

I've been foolishly sending subs into port hexes to try for shots, and I've been paying in battered submarines. I just sent a dozen subs out from Pearl, I'll try to keep them a bit further out, and use them more for recon then for interdiction, till the whole torpedo problem starts to resolve itself.

I think the air battle over CBI is going to get underway soon. Its earlier then I'd really wanted, but its time to start chewing on his pilot pool.

One thing I haven't seen since Pearl Harbor is the KB, or any part of it. The Mini-KB seems to be involved in Solomons/New Guinea, but we haven't seen the big decks for awhile.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/22/2009 1:31:58 PM   
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The Japanese make landings at Pontiniak, and a surface force and invasion task force are heading for Port Moresby. I'd dearly love to sortie the Australian fleet, with a few American and British friends, but air cover from Rabaul would kill me, and my planes don't have the legs yet to return the favor.

The air war over Burma began in earnest today, when a routine harassment mission over Mandalay found two squadrons of P-40E Warhawks waiting. Ten of forty Oscars went down in flames, for the loss of three of twenty-eight Warhawks. The four Sallys they were escorting dropped their bombs in a panic, and all four bombers were damaged.

More oil and supplies were dispatched towards Australia and New Zealand, by way of Panama City. Though I'm hoping to keep the southern route open, the KB has yet to show itself, and given his swift movements into the Solomons and New Guinea, I'd expect to see hits on Noumea, and Suva, in the very near future.

In China, Wuchow fell, with over 10,000 Chinese troops going into captivity. I would expect Pucheng to be next.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/22/2009 5:57:14 PM   
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Apparently the Japanese didn't like having their Oscars chopped up over Burma, because they didn't return for a second dose. A sad thing, because I had over 120 Warhawks plus 40 odd Buffalos waiting for them. Instead, they took out their frustration on the badly outnumbered and outgunned Dutch East Indies air force.

The good news is, this gives me more time to get Mandalay's AF to level 4, which will make everything better. I plan to base 150 bombers in Mandalay, and use them to pound on Rangoon and Moulmein, with Buffalo escorts. While the Buffalos will die in droves, enough of the bombers should get through to do enough damage to force him to shut down Mandalay, where the Warhawks will be waiting, on Long Range CAP from the mountain airfields. Once I get a couple of squadrons of Lightnings into CBI to provide real escorts, his problems should prove more acute.

Port Moresby is invaded, and Darwin is bombarded by mysterious stealth battleships. They literally appeared, bombarded, and vanished. Alas for the state of aerial recon in 1942. In any case, I am working to evacuate the dirt road bases in Northern Oz (Broome, Derby, Wyndham) so I can use those base forces on the long road south from Darwin.

In the frozen north, I shifted the planes from Attu Island to a friendly Russian airfield, thus helping with the supply shortage on Attu. The planes will sit there until the hardworking and underfed engineers get an actual airstrip and hangars built, and we get the supply issues sorted.

Colorado and Arizona near Kiska, and should bombard it day after tomorrow.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/22/2009 6:56:26 PM   
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Moving to a Russian airfield, does that mean the Japanese can attack Russia?
You might verify with your opponent this tactic is allowed. Most don't.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/22/2009 8:54:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: stldiver

Moving to a Russian airfield, does that mean the Japanese can attack Russia?
You might verify with your opponent this tactic is allowed. Most don't.

Hmmm...didn't think about that. I'll move them back, this turn. It was interesting though that the only mission I could fly with them from that field was training.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/22/2009 9:34:02 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stldiver

Moving to a Russian airfield, does that mean the Japanese can attack Russia?
You might verify with your opponent this tactic is allowed. Most don't.

Hmmm...didn't think about that. I'll move them back, this turn. It was interesting though that the only mission I could fly with them from that field was training.


Actually, apparently there was no risk of Rainer getting the shaft. Apparently I can't move the fighter squadron out of Russian territory. Evil communists don't want to give the fighters back.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/23/2009 5:51:51 PM   
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Interesting times indeed for the allies.

Palembang - A raiding force led by CA Kumano makes a night raid, sinking several hapless minesweepers, and evading the torpedo boats guarding the harbor. The also sink the tanker Iris, who was making a last attempt to draw oil from the Palembang stores.

Zamboanga, Philippines - The odd tale continues. The riflemen of a Philippine regiment have been holding this little port town for weeks, seeing off a Japanese landing force, and wiping out an entire NLF unit. Now more bombardments, and more landings incoming, to reinforce the first Japanese landing, which was quite bogged down.

Rangoon - A moderate allied bombing raid does a little damage, killing a Dinah on the ground, against no fighter cover.

Mandalay - 50 Zeros show up to avenge the losses of 9 January, and for reasons unknown, of the 70 odd P40E's assigned to CAP, only 9 fly. So 14 P40E's are destroyed, either in the air or on the ground, as the Zeros strafe and bomb the field, against the loss of 1 Zero.

Clark Field - Clark receives its usual aerial and artillery pounding, but the men are still there, and still holding.

Singapore - The Japanese try a deliberate attack, which is repelled, though at great loss. Supply is at 31k and falling, under steady air and artillery attack. I sincerely doubt the place will hold till 1 February, let alone 15 February.

Bandjermasin, Lautem, - both are attacked, but hold. They'll both be taken in the next couple of days, certainly.

Port Moresby - Japanese troops are ashore, but haven't attacked yet. The base force here is being flown out to the east coast of Australia. Lae also is invested, but not yet under attack.

The Kiska bombardment force inches closer to its target. Maybe in a week they might manage to take a shot.

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RE: Facing the Iron Rain - Mad66(A) vs. Rainer79(J) Big... - 2/23/2009 6:11:11 PM   
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One of those days that make you wonder why you try

Palembang - Now its CL Jintsu's turn for a night raid, it and some destroyers sail into harbor, sink four torpedo boats, and blithely sail out, almost entirely unscathed. To add insult to injury, the KB, or a large chunk of it, are sighted to the southeast. Four CVs, and two CVLs, were spotted, with other ships. An air raid from the CV group savages Batavia's air defenders in passing, and sinks a minelayer.

Attu Island - Two Japanese battleships (Ise and Hyugu) show up and pound the island's already hungry defenders, before vanishing into the snow and wind. Maybe we'll have that battleship encounter in the frozen north after all. Ships carrying supply and base forces and lots of air are on their way north, so this may turn into fairly major operation before all is said and done.

Rangoon - A small raid by B-17Ds runs into 50 Oscars, 3 bombers are lost. I'm suspending bombing of Rangoon and Moulmein till I can get the closer airfields into shape. No point in just feeding bombers to massed CAP till I can start chopping some of that CAP down.

Port Moresby - In an odd occurrence, the 30th Australian brigade appeared just in time to help bombard the Japanese landing force. I may try and rescue a few, just so the brigade regrows on the mainland.

Logistics - 96 new AKs, and the same number of tankers appeared. So did lots of new support formations. Most are on their way to Pearl, where they will be deployed from. The 11th Air Force, 111th Aviation Regiment, are on their way to Kodiak, with the 111th Base Force headed to Cold Bay.


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