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Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:00:14 PM   
Researcher

 

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Recently there was a discussion regarding archaeology, namely the fact that the Soviets didn't bury their dead on numerous USSR battlefields until 46 years after the war. Its an important subject that some few people do not want to investigate, or so it appears.

I was discussing how quikmaneuvers.com is the only publisher fearless enough to look into that mystery, when I was attacked by people who violently voiced negative opinons rather than offering any evidence.

Those few people shut down the discussion and my effort to learn more was suppressed.
I suppose that they there are some very bigoted leftists on this forum who refuse to allow freedom of speech or thought. Some member even used an emoticon to puke on quikmaneuvers.com.

After that treatment I realized that some type of Marxist political correctness has infiltrated this forum and the country. They are modern day book burners and enemies of research and discussion if it wanders into an area of deceit that they want to protect. So I joined the local 2nd American Revolution, the tea party, the very next day.

I will work hard to prevent bigots from violently closing down discussions with simple gestapo-like methods. or should I say Chekist, NKVD, or KGB?


Such members reflect badly on Matrix games.

By the way. On what forum was that discussion. I cannot find it? My requests for the forum on which that topic was discussed, have not been answered.

What is going on here?
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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:15:13 PM   
Missouri Rebel

 

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Status: offline 		Not sure what you are speaking of but, I can assure you that not everyone here is a 'leftist'. 

Does that mean that there are no commies here? No. Seeing that this forum represents people from all over the world, there is no doubt that the makeup here includes every stripe. I actually prefer that there is a 'left' that actively posts here. It helps reinforce this 'Rightwingers' opinion and at times enlightens me as to the err in my rationale.

Only a fool thinks he is correct on every issue.

So, dig up the thread and lets take a look at what you are speaking of before we  jump to conclusions about this forum being censored, something I think you are wrong about. BTW, freedom of speech doesn't mean a thing when you are a guest in someones home. This here home is owned by Matrix games and as such I will try not to upset my host.

mo reb

EDIT: Typooos

< Message edited by Missouri Rebel -- 3/27/2009 8:02:15 PM >

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:36:47 PM   
Jeffrey H.


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Status: offline 		I think this is a gaming forum first and foremost. Historical games in particular. But historical topics often turn into political ones and that's where the forum mods draw the line. Sometimes they allow subjects to cross the line, if the discussion remains civil but generally they don't want us at each others throats over anything.

This forum exists to foster positive community with the gamin genre that Matrix represents, IHMO. Purely political stuff without gaming context will almost certainly get locked, sooner or later.

That's my interpretation.


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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:40:42 PM   
Randomizer


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Status: offline 		I think that what's going on here is that this is a gaming forum where politically sensitive discussion is rightly discouraged (read forbidden).  Overall, Moderation here is both fair and effective and dogma-spouting trolls of any political stripe will probably find themselves unwelcome.

This is a nice place to come and get away from those absolutely irrelevant but contraversial topics that come to dominate some forums and I'm all for keeping it as is.

Welcome aboard, I doubt you will find any gestapo around here unless you bring them with you.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:44:18 PM   
Terminus


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Status: offline 		Researcher, you don't have "freedom of speech" here.

Get that through your head; if Matrix says that they don't want a certain type of subject broached on this forum, then you can't broach it.

Don't like it? Too damn bad; their house, their rules.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:57:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Am I wrong or is this person doing viral marketing for a site that sells ebooks?

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 7:59:44 PM   
Terminus


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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 8:01:45 PM   
Missouri Rebel

 

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Status: offline 		That thought came across my mind also. I have yet to look at his site until I see a reply from him including the post in question. I refuse to be of party to someones unscrupulous marketing practices, if indeed that is what this is.

mo reb


EDIT: Just noticed his post count. Surely it wasnt much of a discussion then.
A trickster it would seem.

< Message edited by Missouri Rebel -- 3/27/2009 8:05:31 PM >

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We must act... against the Sioux, even to the extermination of men, WOMEN and CHILDREN.The more Indians we can kill this year, the less will have to be killed next year. They all have to be killed or be maintained as a species of paupers.- w.t. SHErMAN

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 8:06:15 PM   
m10bob


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Status: offline 		If someone only joined us on 031509, how would they know "leftist" anything is creeping into this forum?..From when, 031509 ?.....Must question the motives here.............


Gadzooks...I thought I had seen every name in the forums.....




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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 8:42:05 PM   
Hertston


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Researcher
On what forum was that discussion. I cannot find it? My requests for the forum on which that topic was discussed, have not been answered.

What is going on here?



I hope you don't 'research' for a living. It took me all of two mouse clicks to find it, the first of which was on your own name!

the thread in question

It got locked for the same reason that a lot of threads get locked here.. and rightly so. The politics, not to mention a large chunk of the paranoia, got out-sourced to Mad Cow's Steakhouse years ago. You would be right at home there, I think. Or it's successor anyway




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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 9:50:27 PM   
sullafelix

 

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Status: offline 		Well I'll be damned. I never knew I was a card carrying marxist.

Now for something completely different.

1. As has been pointed out this is a gaming forum.

2. Very rarely does history get discussed here. It does lead to some problems at times. Also forums are not the best avenue for an open minded discussion. The internet does not lead to a healthy exchange of ideas it only turns into a virtual shouting match between posters. This is IMHO only others might have a different take.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/27/2009 11:58:52 PM   
PunkReaper


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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 12:21:58 AM   
Missouri Rebel

 

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Status: offline 		YES IT DOES!!!! Grrrrrr!.!?

btw....what are we arguing about again...ah never mind. That isnt important.

< Message edited by Missouri Rebel -- 3/28/2009 12:23:27 AM >

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We must act... against the Sioux, even to the extermination of men, WOMEN and CHILDREN.The more Indians we can kill this year, the less will have to be killed next year. They all have to be killed or be maintained as a species of paupers.- w.t. SHErMAN

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 1:39:48 AM   
BAL


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missouri Rebel

YES IT DOES!!!! Grrrrrr!.!?

btw....what are we arguing about again...ah never mind. That isnt important.



I'm shocked that you don't think this is very important...whatever it is.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 4:44:51 AM   
KG Erwin


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Status: offline 		Clever way for him to spam, by bringing up a locked thread, which, BTW, I started. It's tough to talk about wargames without bringing up the history behind them, but I'm visiting Matrix' house, so their rules must be followed.

I visited the site, and I didn't see anything particularly controversial about it. Nevertheless, the original post was a thinly-veiled spam, so I'd suggest that this thread be closed. Erik?

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 6:44:45 AM   
06 Maestro


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Researcher
I am a new member of this forum.

Welcome-do you play military type games?

quote:

ORIGINAL:
I was discussing how quikmaneuvers.com is the only publisher fearless enough to look into that mystery, when I was attacked by people who violently voiced negative opinons rather than offering any evidence.


Violently attacked?? Come on now; lighten up.


quote:

ORIGINAL:
After that treatment I realized that some type of Marxist political correctness has infiltrated this forum and the country. They are modern day book burners and enemies of research and discussion if it wanders into an area of deceit that they want to protect. So I joined the local 2nd American Revolution, the tea party, the very next day.


You you made all those discoveries and came to such profound conclusions from one thread at Matrix Games?? And the new information was so great that you joined some demonstration groups?
Clearly; Matrix Games OT forums has some amazing power to influence.
I can certainly understand your enthusiasm in sharing your important decisions in your second post here as your 1st post had such a profound impact on your life.

quote:

ORIGINAL:
I will work hard to prevent bigots from violently closing down discussions with simple gestapo-like methods. or should I say Chekist, NKVD, or KGB?


The owners of this establishment have some rules-if you break those, your threads will be locked and you may be 86ed. If you do not want to have that happen to yourself you should stop making associations of not very well liked groups with members/proprietors of
this site. It looks rather odd to make comparisons as those you chose-assuming one knows something of those mentioned organizations.

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ORIGINAL:
Such members reflect badly on Matrix games.


Why?

quote:

ORIGINAL:
By the way. On what forum was that discussion. I cannot find it? My requests for the forum on which that topic was discussed, have not been answered.


It is in this forum. If you seek, you shall find. Click on your name and check all your posts (it'll be the one just before your last post. Believe it or not, the staff here actually have a job to do. Part of that job is answering various inquiries about individual problems-they are actually quite helpful when there is an actual problem.

quote:

ORIGINAL:
What is going on here?


This is a gaming forum with rules that endeavor and to keep it clean and enjoyable for youngsters and old folks alike. The choice was made by the owners of this site that they do not want politics (national/international) discussed here. There are good locations for that activity. You are barking up the wrong tree.


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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 10:11:00 AM   
Hartford688

 

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Status: offline 		He's funny. Posted once then bleats about hostile response. Which was...one whole reply, everyone else ignored him.

But if you are peddling a commercial website, I guess you need to make a drama...any publicity is good publicity.

I made the mistake of looking in the link...creepy nutfest bookshop. Loon history.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 10:21:38 AM   
Terminus


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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 10:48:47 AM   
Hartford688

 

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Status: offline 		Terminus...good point. Thanks - I ran Norton and it picked up the following trojans:

TinFoilHat.exe and NaziApologist.exe. Fortunately I ran my Reality program and that fixed it.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 12:32:19 PM   
Perturabo


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Status: offline 		It's a simple trick - he posts an outraged post to attract people's curiosity about what "leftist" don't want them to know and then tries to sell sensational books through the website. Of course all these books contain sensational and unknown knowledge that "leftists" don't want anyone to know and anyone who isn't markxist must read.

An interesting way to make money.


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They should ask themselves why people who finish schools burned out due to mobbing aren't receiving high enough compensations to not seek vengeance.

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RE: Shocked At Hostile Bias - 3/28/2009 12:56:49 PM   
Erik Rutins

 

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Status: offline 		Ok, locking this up.

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