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Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 7:23:39 AM   
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Okay with the paperwork done, we got some other topics going like good PC air war games, good space games and what now. How about medieval? It was a fun, intriguing part of history for everyone but those in it.

About Gamespot, a long time ago I tried a medieval era game called Lords of the Realms 3 which was said to be pure rubbish in player comments but Gamespot rated it like 8.4 which miffed some of the readers. I've never tried #1 and #2 cause they were too long ago but they are said to be classics. I decided to believe Gamespot's positive review, gave said game a try, and it turned out to be really good for when you need a hit of medieval action. You can like reinforce your castles into hulking stone behemoths and put some defending troops in it and control whatever fights you want in real time or just let the AI handle fights. At the same time, you keep sending out troops to attack and stuff so you can have many fights happening simultaneously in real time. It's cool to construct a fortress and then just let an invading army butt heads with your defenses while I'm having a feed (in real life). People scrapping it out while I'm stuffing myself with chow is good for morale. The AI is quite good too and aggressively tries to whoop you as well as it handles your own troops reasonably well. There's a Black Prince campaign in it too. I never played stuff like Rome Total War cause I'm not into those kind of super epic games. This game is much easier to manage cause the makers focused on minimizing micromanagement which is big factor when I select games.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 7:27:40 AM   
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/lordsoftherealm3/player_review.html?id=188323


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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 11:03:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lords of the Realm 2 was one of the best PC games I've ever played. A perfect blend of city management with strategic campaigning and tactical warfare (real time).

Everything was done so well that the "just one more turn" feel was enoromous. The tactical fighting was nail biting (as was beseiging and breaking into the enemy's castles - #2 had a brilliant expansion in that regards). Then you just couldn't wait to get back to your cities, to build them, nurture them and just get a heavy dose of "zen" whilst the seasons kept rolling in - with the money and the chance to build your armies. The whole idea of population loyalty, war weariness etc., rebuilding a recent conquest from scratch. Brilliant stuff made ever so simple with a great UI. LotR2 was a winner.

When I bought LotR3 I prayed that they had just taken the winning elements of LotR2 and made it better - alas they didn't. LotR3 is a totally different game in every way.

It's title is misleading in that regard and most importantly, for me, it took away all of the fun of its predecessor.

All LotR3 needed to do was improve on its predecessor's real time combat AI. But you just can't hold back some game designers - "if it's workin' break it, if it's broke ignore it"

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 11:17:36 AM   
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Here is one of the trailers.
You control just one character, but can (and should) recruit NPC allies and soldiers, conquer lands and serve other lords and much more. A great sandbox game.

There are also a LOT of mods, some of them historical, such as the Hundred Years War mod.


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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 5:30:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got to say that LOR 2 is far better then LOR 3.Shame i cant find my copy of LOR2.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 6:23:00 PM   
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Mount and Blade ofcourse.



That game looks pretty cool in the video. Lots of killing. I bet the rig requirements are out of control though cause it's a new 3rd person game.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 7:02:16 PM   
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Mount and Blade ofcourse.



That game looks pretty cool in the video. Lots of killing. I bet the rig requirements are out of control though cause it's a new 3rd person game.


Rig req's are not too bad as I run it on a 3 year old laptop without problems. It's a pretty cool game, and also extensively moddable for those that are into that. Also, you are not tied to a storyline, but can choose what you want to do in the game.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 7:10:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I wanna "go medieval", I fire up Medieval:Total War (with the excellent XL Mod). I played a game earlier today, and my Volga Bulgars, an Islamic faction, got stomped by the infidel Kievan Rus within 30 years. My first-ever complete destruction, and the first time I saw the ending video, with my capital in flames. Next time I'll take a wholesome Catholic faction, like the Holy Roman Empire.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 8:45:24 PM   
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Mount and Blade ofcourse.



That game looks pretty cool in the video. Lots of killing. I bet the rig requirements are out of control though cause it's a new 3rd person game.


Oh, not at all. Requirements are pretty tame. Try it. You can get the demo at the Taleworlds homepage.

I haven´t had this much fun at personal combat since Oblivion - and it is definitely the best simulation of mounted combat I have ever seen.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/12/2009 8:50:58 PM   
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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/13/2009 4:05:57 AM   
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Mount and Blade ofcourse.



That game looks pretty cool in the video. Lots of killing. I bet the rig requirements are out of control though cause it's a new 3rd person game.


Oh, not at all. Requirements are pretty tame. Try it. You can get the demo at the Taleworlds homepage.

I haven´t had this much fun at personal combat since Oblivion - and it is definitely the best simulation of mounted combat I have ever seen.


Man this game just looks awesome. And the rig requirements are oddly low....



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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/13/2009 9:21:34 AM   
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Mount and Blade ofcourse.



That game looks pretty cool in the video. Lots of killing. I bet the rig requirements are out of control though cause it's a new 3rd person game.


Oh, not at all. Requirements are pretty tame. Try it. You can get the demo at the Taleworlds homepage.

I haven´t had this much fun at personal combat since Oblivion - and it is definitely the best simulation of mounted combat I have ever seen.


Man this game just looks awesome. And the rig requirements are oddly low....



System:
Windows 98/2000/ME/XP/Vista, Pentium IV 1.4 GHz or equivalent
RAM:
512 MB
Video Memory:
64 MB
Hard Drive Space:
700 MB




It's because you can set your own battle size and tweak other settings as well. For those large 200-300 man battles you need a good rig though, which shouldn't be surprising ;).

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 4/13/2009 1:04:26 PM   
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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 10:00:37 AM   
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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 10:35:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think that Lords of the realm 3 is a pretty good game with a fairly challenging AI...but it is a bad successor to Lords 2 in the sense, as others said, that the game is completely different. The MP works very well too...

When i want to go medieval, my fav game is Knights of Honor

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 12:58:58 PM   
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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 2:05:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I bought Mount and Blade when it was in early beta and it's always been a great game and well supported by the huge community at Taleworlds. The mounted battles are really good fun to take part in. I'm not convinced the game improved much when it was finally picked up by the publisher though. I seemed to get more fun out of the beta and haven't played it much since release.

I'm sat here looking at my original copies of Lords of the Realm II and the Siege Pack addon. This thread got me up in the attic to find them. I haven't had this installed since I used Win98 and don't even know if it will run under XP, but I'll give it a go. It was a great game iirc. Lords of the Realm III never appealed to me because of all the negative press it got. Even players and fans of LotR II said III wasn't much good.


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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 2:54:10 PM   
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Lords of the Realm III never appealed to me because of all the negative press it got. Even players and fans of LotR II said III wasn't much good.

Now...this was all the problem for that game. Lords III was especially not what Lords II fans / players wanted. It's a completely different game...it's just set in the same time period. What i am trying to say is that you won't find an objective opinion from fans of Lords II as they were the most disappointed because they were expecting a different game/sequel.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 3:10:42 PM   
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Now...this was all the problem for that game. Lords III was especially not what Lords II fans / players wanted. It's a completely different game...it's just set in the same time period. What i am trying to say is that you won't find an objective opinion from fans of Lords II as they were the most disappointed because they were expecting a different game/sequel.

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I could never quite work out whether it was a good game providing you'd never played LotR II or whether it was just a mediocre game in its own right. Gog have III for $5.99, so I might just buy it for that price and judge for myself

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 3:13:44 PM   
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Got to say that LOR 2 is far better then LOR 3.Shame i cant find my copy of LOR2.

My copy installs and seems to play fine on XP. You can have my original when I've had a play if you like? Do you want the Siege Pack with it? PM me your address and I'll post it to you in the next couple of weeks.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 3:47:42 PM   
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I could never quite work out whether it was a good game providing you'd never played LotR II or whether it was just a mediocre game in its own right. Gog have III for $5.99, so I might just buy it for that price and judge for myself


Well, i belong to the very small, even tiny, group of Lords II players who do enjoy Lords of the realm III. As i knew about the game only shortly before it's release, i didn't build up much expectations and played the game with a fairly open mind. Now with this in mind and considering that the game isn't the newest anymore, some points:

- AI is good and you'll have a hard time to win some scenarios
- It's an RTS and you cannot pause the strategy map when you fight a battle so you'll have to chose which battles you want to fight.
- Don't expect anything close to Lords II...there's absolutely nothing similar.
- There are 4 campaigns based on history: Lords of the Realm III
- Most maps can be played between 1 hour and 1 hour and a 1/2
- It's not a great game but it's fairly good if you take it for what it is.

Cheers

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/11/2010 4:58:37 PM   
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Well, i belong to the very small, even tiny, group of Lords II players who do enjoy Lords of the realm III. As i knew about the game only shortly before it's release, i didn't build up much expectations and played the game with a fairly open mind. Now with this in mind and considering that the game isn't the newest anymore, some points:

Thank you for the info Anguille. I'm not bothered about the age of the game if it plays well. The screenshots look reasonably good. Does it have a skirmish mode or random maps in addition to the campaigns?

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/12/2010 7:11:49 AM   
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Well, i belong to the very small, even tiny, group of Lords II players who do enjoy Lords of the realm III. As i knew about the game only shortly before it's release, i didn't build up much expectations and played the game with a fairly open mind. Now with this in mind and considering that the game isn't the newest anymore, some points:

Thank you for the info Anguille. I'm not bothered about the age of the game if it plays well. The screenshots look reasonably good. Does it have a skirmish mode or random maps in addition to the campaigns?


You don't have a skirmish mode per se, but you can choose any nation on every map (the largest maps being England-Ireland or France if i recall correctly). So the starting position is very open. You also have a large number of battles you can play but there aren't that great (though i played them all at least once) because the AI will tend to rush.

An interesting aspect in the concept is the link between inviduals (if you choose the rights persons in your realm, you may get Robin Hood for instance) but frankly, i never had enough time during my campaigns to find out these Eastereggs.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/12/2010 11:33:47 AM   
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When I wanna "go medieval", I fire up Medieval:Total War (with the excellent XL Mod). I played a game earlier today, and my Volga Bulgars, an Islamic faction, got stomped by the infidel Kievan Rus within 30 years. My first-ever complete destruction, and the first time I saw the ending video, with my capital in flames. Next time I'll take a wholesome Catholic faction, like the Holy Roman Empire.


Same here as MTW with the XL mod is my favorite. Sadly I can't get it to run on my Vista 64 system with 9800GT graphics card. Any suggestions for fixes "that actually work" would be appreciated.

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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/12/2010 3:10:27 PM   
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Sadly I can't get it to run on my Vista 64 system with 9800GT graphics card. Any suggestions for fixes "that actually work" would be appreciated.


Running it in "Windows XP sp2 compatibility" mode doesn't work?


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RE: Do you ever get medieval on people? - 1/12/2010 4:16:07 PM   
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Sadly I can't get it to run on my Vista 64 system with 9800GT graphics card. Any suggestions for fixes "that actually work" would be appreciated.


Running it in "Windows XP sp2 compatibility" mode doesn't work?



No as it's more of a video card issue when I get to the battle screen I get these mouse tracks that color the screen in mouse pointer swirls as I move it around.

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