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Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/22/2009 12:02:02 AM   
KG Erwin


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Status: offline 		... that some of us had in the pre-PC days, when we played board games solo. I kept thinking, "wouldn't it be cool if someone could invent a way to play this against a computerized opponent?" The young guys who grew up with PCs can't identify with this, but modern PC games (PureSim in particular) were indeed the answer to a long-held dream for many of us.
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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/22/2009 4:05:25 AM   
prisonerno6


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Status: offline 		You are so correct. Thank goodness for computer baseball games! I still remember buying Earl Weaver baseball in 1986 while in college and staying in to play Earl Weaver while my buddies went out. Now today I play Puresim on my laptop while my wife watches DVDs.

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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/22/2009 1:11:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never got my hands on one of the baseball board games when I was a kid, but oh did I want one! Anything with charts, matrices, dice rolling, was (and still is) right up my alley. I'm just glad that the computers have shortened the set up and play time of this stuff! The flip side is that it also causes me stress not having control of what's going on and knowing the 'game behind the game'. I'm all about charts, calculating percentages, etc. I'm just a numbers geek.

On another side, the area's (and maybe the state's) premier broadcaster, Harry Kalas, died recently, and I saw a clip of him saying that when he was a kid he would play one of those board games and announce the games while playing. I can't remember the name of the specific game he said he played, but he mentioned it a number of times.


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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/22/2009 6:40:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		All right, I'm gettin' teary eyed now. For me, it was Statis-Pro Baseball back in 1981. Fast Action Cards, charts, player cards, and "Z" cards for unusual plays. In the mid-80's I purchased a Commodore 64 version of the game and spent many evenings in the Persian Gulf hitting the space bar on the 64's keyboard.

Between C-64 and PC's, I must've tried thirty different baseball games. Here is where I've ended up, for better or worse. The ride has been a rocky one, but has smoothed out in the last few years. Thanks to Shaun and this outstanding community.


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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/26/2009 3:27:17 AM   
RichL1967


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Status: offline 		Oh, do I remember those days as well, as a young kid in the early / mid 1970's. 
Back then I used a deck of playing cards to simulate games. Spades were ground outs, Clubs fly outs, Diamonds Strike Outs, Hearts A-6 single, 7-9 double, 10 triple and face hearts were HRs. reshuffled each inning. Kept stats in a note book until the eraser wore holes through the paper, all the while dreaming of the day someone would make some kind of machine that would make it a little easier to tabulate and have cool logo graphics. I knew it would happen someday.

At some point I got a game as a birthday present called All Star Baseball. It used round player cards like a pie chart that you put in a holder and spun a spinner over to get the result. That was a good fun game. Stats were a little high though because all the players were all-stars.

Puresim is exactly the game I dreamed of back then and I love it. Shaun has done an awesome job. I can't praise him enough. He must have been dreaming the same things as a boy. But you know, thinking back, in all honesty, I kind of had more fun with the playing cards. The computer does so much of the work that some times, I kind of get bored just clicking the mouse. With that said though, I wouldn't trade this game for anything and am eagerly awaiting the next version. 


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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/27/2009 8:04:37 PM   
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All right, I'm gettin' teary eyed now. For me, it was Statis-Pro Baseball back in 1981.


motnahp,
we mujsta lived a parallell life.

I loved that little board game. Even though I still say the Alan Wiggins player card was jacked up.

Before board games there were...Baseball cards! We would use the available stats on the back of them to manually determine base hits and outs using the 1975 Topps set keeping game logs by pen and paper. You can't imagine how much paper we went thru!


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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/27/2009 8:23:26 PM   
Wrathchild


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Status: offline 		When I was a kid there was a card game you could buy at department stores. It was really cheap and probably low distribution and I can't remember the name of it. The cards were rather cheap and each one simply had a list of each position and a result in green text. You made your lineup and just drew the next card to see what the result was. Me and my nearby friend used to do major league seasons with them. We also created a dice baseball game using 2 six sided dice, using the result distribution to list different plays.

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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/27/2009 10:16:47 PM   
KG Erwin


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Status: offline 		Here's a blast from the past: sample player cards from the APBA board game, which has been in print since 1951. At one time, this is all I had to represent the players. For Wrathchild, you now understand why Pure Sim is 7th Heaven, given the massive amount of info for an individual player at our fingertips (plus, in most cases, photos!).






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RE: Don Braswell Reminded Me of This Dream... - 4/27/2009 10:33:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

For Wrathchild, you now understand why Pure Sim is 7th Heaven, given the massive amount of info for an individual player at our fingertips (plus, in most cases, photos!).



I can truly appreciate what Puresim is, as it's something I've been looking for for a long time. I tried EA Sports baseball but couldn't really enjoy it because, despite having great graphics, it wasn't the game I wanted. I wanted a 'wargame' version of baseball. You'll probably understand what I mean by that. To me, Puresim is for baseball, what discovering Avalon Hill was for my own attempts at creating structured, logical wargames. Out of curiosity I took a peek at the competing baseball game, and just can't see myself playing it. I'm sticking with this one to the end!

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